Posted on 04/25/2013 4:08:12 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
Sen. Lindsey Graham predicts 70 votes for the 'Gang of Eight' bill with Marco Rubio on board.
It is rare in Washington for the trend lines on a controversial issue to come together as favorably as they have for immigration reform.
Public support is roughly around 70%, according to various polls, with Gallup having it at 72%. Senate Republicans blocked an overhaul of immigration laws in 2007 but now a substantial bloc of Republicans, alarmed by the GOP's shrunken share of the Hispanic vote in the 2012 election, are eager to enact "comprehensive" reform legislation.
For their part, Hispanic groups recognize that this is an opportune moment for achieving their goal of citizenship for illegal immigrants in America. They are willing to accept legislation with a protracted timetable—a minimum of 13 years—before citizenship can be attained.
And two backers of immigration reform have emerged as key players since Congress took up the issue last week with hearings of the Senate Judiciary Committee. One is President Obama. In February, the leak of a White House bill—including provisions that would be anathema to Republicans—threatened to upset the pro-reform coalition. Since then, the president has promised to stay out of the congressional deliberations.
The other is Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida. His role is as critical as the president's, but for a different reason. Mr. Obama can stymie legislation, but Mr. Rubio's leadership is essential to passing immigration reform in the first place. This is why Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham, longtime advocates of reform, recruited him and created the bipartisan "Gang of Eight" with four Republicans and four Democrats........
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The democrats call us racists on a daily basis. And the GOPe does the same!
So I would rather have a complete nobody elected president than Marco Rubio, or Bush3, both of whom are conservatives in name only. At least with a democrat president, we could justifiably oppose all their socialist policies.
The problem really begins when we have a socialist / GOPe President in office. There is next to no way to oppose them... and we get just as much socialism... its the worst of both worlds.
Doing whats best for the country huh?
That's what “alarms” me!....throw ‘em ALL out
The problem here was that the pro-RINO voters saw Rubio as someone as acceptable as Crist, for their purposes, but younger and probably less gay.
They voted for Rubio and the Conservatives voted for Rubio and Rubio won.
Later on, in the 2012 election, after purging Florida's voter rolls of all the illegals, etc. we ran Romney against Obama and lost ~ with those same voters. The reason is now obvious ~ with Charlie Crist having officially 'gone over' so did his pro-RINO voters.
We know we no longer have the pro-RINO voter faction available to us in Florida. Hence Rubio's total panic ~
This movement of FACTIONS, not just individual voters, is the way the party system works in this country. We have to learn to work it by seeking out and registering Republican oriented voters ~ then we have to get them to the polls. And we need to avoid stirring up and encouraging Democrats to vote.
And a lesson concerning pro-RINO voters. They exist, and in some states they make a difference at the state office level ~ the Governor, Lt. Governor, Senators, and President! ~ they sure seem to have counted in Florida but I doubt running for Jeb Bush is the way to bring them back.
Rubio imagines that he can pick up among Hispanics ~ but I doubt that even if he could he could save his own seat. That hope went out with the Crist voting block. They won't be back!
You are correct, Jeb! is not the way to go, just look to race to the top and common core.
I have given up calling them RINO’s and just flat out call them Progressives(.). There are so very few non-Progressive Republicans these days and something is going to have to give. The only hope left is getting the dumbasses to take the Founder’s Red Pill.
or the time being, I will remain registered to the GOP, but only as a means to try and effect the outcomes on the primary side.
>>> They won’t be back!
Plus they will bleed the normal GOP base.
This bill dies in the house...Obama blames republicans, Dems win mid-terms. Next....
The previously unorganized unemployed vote will show up in the Republican column ~ and we may have over 50,000,000 voters ~ a new record for a mid-term election.
It is funny. We KNOW the “border security” provision is a lie. They didn’t enforce it last time. They starved it of money when it was legislated again during the Bush administration.
And, in any case, it doesn’t come into play until the Amnesty does. So we get inundated with yet another wave of invading barbarians. So, sign me up with the “Locos.”
Also, anyone who thinks we can’t turn the screws on illegal aliens until they self-deport is missing what the Feds are doing to us. There are times I’d self deport if I had somewhere to go...
“a substantial bloc of Republicans, alarmed by the GOP’s shrunken share of the Hispanic vote in the 2012 election, are eager to enact “comprehensive” reform legislation.”
These Republicans are brilliant logicians, are they not?
Hispanics vote against you at over a 2-1 ratio, so they want to remedy that by creating more Hispanic voters.
The Republicans supporting this amnesty bill have to be crypto-Dhimms; no one could be so consistently stupid.
Just stop and truly listen to their own words.
“Insane” does not even describe it.
This give you all an idea of how many of these aliens will be excluded from ‘amnesty’.
99.5% of Deferred Action Applications Approved
Would Same Rubber-stamping Occur Under Senate Amnesty Bill?
WASHINGTON, DC (April 24, 2013) — Statistics from U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Service indicate that the agency is rubber-stamping the applications for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. They report that 99.5% of applicants have been approved, which appears to be well above approval rates for other legal programs, which have fraud and rejection rates in the double digits. The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) predicts the level of fraud could be significant in what is considered a test run for the much larger amnesty included in the Schumer-Rubio immigration bill.
In the first six weeks of the DACA program, only one out of every 5,000 applications was denied. These numbers are quite worrisome, considering prior CIS research estimated that one quarter of the applications during the 1986 amnesty were fraudulent. The 1986 program had an even tougher application review process that included routine face to face interviews. The question is whether such a limited review process would also occur under the sweeping amnesty bill currently being considered by Congress.
“USCIS should answer public concerns that DACA applicants are not required to prove their claims of eligibility, and that the agency is taking proper care to vet applicants so that unqualified and possibly dangerous individuals will be screened out and removed,” stated Jessica Vaughan, Director of Policy Studies at the Center for Immigration Studies. “Moreover, given renewed concern over the national security risks of mass immigration, no large-scale legalization program should be implemented until a thorough quality control and fraud assessment of DACA has been conducted. The stakes for public safety are just too high for us to rush into sweeping reforms.”
A CIS Backgrounder illustrating the lessons learned from 1986 amnesty can be found here: http://cis.org/before-considering-another-amnesty-look-at-ircas-lessons
View the text, summary and status of the Sen. Schumer and Sen. Rubio amnesty bill, S.744: http://cis.org/Border-Security-Economic-Opportunity-Immigration-Modernization-Act
Contact: Marguerite Telford
202-466-8185, mrt@cis.org
I’m sure our two RINO’s Chambliss and Isakson are salivating to vote for it along with internet taxation. I’m exhausted from emailing and calling them constantly to try to make they vote the right way.
All I hear on radio here, is that the immigration reform has to be done now. The repubs allowed the libs to bring this up so now they pinned in a box but never would be happening if not for McCain, Rubio. Betrayal, I think. We need reform but not this Schumer bill. Incompetence. It seems to come back to the one party rule. They know better. McCain is not the face of the republican party; he just will not go away. Rubio admits the GOP will not get many Hispanic votes though we could open up the dialog to them. How is that working with the other groups. This will open a flood gate to more illegals while saying no to a person that would come legally and work or to start a business.
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