Posted on 07/23/2013 9:33:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
"Not until I went to the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."
Alexis d’ Tocqueville, Democracy in America, 1835
The inspiration for this article occurred while reading "What about a third party candidate" by Rachel Lynn Robinson on Nolan Chart, www.nolanchart.com. Ms. Robinson, a Libertarian, asks: "Is it reasonable to elect a third party candidate simply based on their stance on a few key items?"
Ms. Robinson writes a good article, and offers an alternative to a third party, the redesign of the GOP. She asks, how could we win a national election with a new party, if we don't have the strength to re-invent the Republican Party? So in the end her solution is infighting within the GOP. Unfortunately, we have been doing that since Ronald Reagan, and it has resulted in chaos in America and the election and re-election of a neophyte lightweight Barack Obama.
First, let's make clear we don't need a new third party, we need a new second party. Difference? What faces the United States is not about one or two, or three issues where we are headed in the wrong direction. This is not about dissatisfaction by groups of single issue voters. This is about what the United States is, how it will conduct itself in the Post-Cold War World, and whether it has the heart to sustain the most successful national model in history!
America is in chaos. It starts with God. It starts with the rise of secular humanism and the removal of God from the center of our nation. This process started before the American Civil War, but clearly accelerated in the 1950's to today. Any new national party wanting to offer America salvation as a nation must start with inviting God into the Big Tent. If the tent ain't big enough for God, the rest is a waste of time.
Christianity was the foundation of colonies, it was their inspiration, it was what brought the first settlers to America. The "Mayflower Compact," designed and accepted on the Mayflower before the 102 settlers set foot on America's coast is seen by historians as the seed for what became the American model of governance. And in that compact God sits majestically. There is no subtlety about His presence in that document. Even today's political correct morons could not convice you that God is only referred to. No, He is there in all His glory to commence the creation of the nation we live in today.
The new American Party must humble itself before God. The people of America must NOT make the mistakes of Israel and other nations. It is time to bow, time to repent as a nation. It is time to ask God for His "guidance and protection" as the people of the South did in their 1861 Constitution. The new American Party must accept Christianity as it's compass, it must provide the direction for domestic and foreign policy or everything else attempted by America will result in the same ends as all other nations.
Yet, there is much more the new American Party must do. It must re-assess the modern world and our nation's place in it.
America must re-acquaint itself with the concept of republic. The Constitution was not an "enabling" document. It was a protecting document. The Constitution was an attempt to design a central government limited, or restrained, to only those things a central government must do. The original concept was to allow each of the states to retain as much control of its domestic development as possible. This concept allowed for both diversity and experimentation, while allowing states to retain much of their own identity and sovereignty This should be the second foundation of the American party.
The third foundation should be nationalism, and a new national economic self-sufficiency. America must retake its own markets. This does require policies and action at the central government level, as stimulus to American business entrepreneurship, industrial ingenuity and creativity and the American work ethic. It requires domestic oil and gas exploration, development production, something Governor Palin is quite familiar with. Liz Cheney recently articulated the very concept of development of our own energy reserves. By doing this, we could separate ourselves from the world market, employ millions of our own people in good paying jobs and create the economic foundation for a renaissance in U.S. industry and manufacturing.
Trade should be used as a tool, not as a give away principle that has reduced America to third world status.
And lastly, we must find our place in the world.
We are no longer the leader of the Free World. That battle has subsided for a time. No we are just one of more than two hundred nations trying to make our way. Our foreign policy must not only meet our national security needs, and our hopes and aspirations but it must be within our means.
I am not a Liz Cheney supporter (yet). To be one, I would have to know where she stands on question of morality. Her father disappointed me with his embrace of homosexuality. This violates Christianity, the sanctity of God and His natural law. But Liz Cheney is absolutely right about the economic potential of the United States. We could enter a new era of prosperity were this nation's policies shifted towards self-sufficiency.
A new second party, the American Party is the answer, it is the political locale where our nation can be reborn unto itself. No, this can't happen in the Republican Party. It's corruption is too widespread, it's infestation by special interests, American and non-American, too deep. And there is a "royalty" within the Republican Party that defies the basic concept of America, that all men are created equal. No, we need an American Party and Sara Palin bests reflects that party.
Flawed analysis. Imagine a farmer planting fields...that's a new party.
Imagine a farmer trying to plant fields while being harassed by someone who doesn't want him to plant for himself, but to work for him as a sharecropper, on his own land...
That's the Republican party. The Republican Party has become corrupt.
The RINOs are entrenched. Any changes made in the GOP would inevitably become corrupt.
If one takes a gallon of vanilla ice cream and a gallon of manure, and mix them together...will the result taste more like vanilla ice cream, or manure?
Not my druthers.
I'm mindful of the Bond Movie Goldfinger..."No, Mr. Bond, I don't expect you to talk! I expect you to die!"
The GOP can never be wrested from the grip of the professional politicians.
The only viable way a third-party will happen is from a mass defection...say the Texas GOP wants to break off from the National Party and start their own party, and then see which other politicians will defect to the new party.
Perot ran twice because his ego is the biggest part of him.
I've voted for every Republican candidate for president...even when I had to hold my nose. I decided awhile back that borders were the issue where I would draw the line. If you don't have enforceable and enforced borders, you don't have a country, and the game's up.
I flirted with Libertarianism for awhile, until I concluded they were the Not Ready for Prime Time Players, a mix of Randians and stoners, naïve all.
I believe it's impractical to declare a Culture War, when it's much more practical to not declare it...just knock out the underpinnings of the left.
Offer a strictly secular platform of ending handouts, shrinking government and increasing liberty. Do so and you've disarmed your opponent.
How do you intend to prove a negative?
I'll wait...
Yes.
And lose 47% off the top, sadly.
I think there's maybe some wiggle room on the 47% though. A lot of SS recipients, for example, are conservative.
Anyone who attempts to reverse it in one election cycle has a lot of factions to appease.
The untapped power is the 200 million or so citizens who simply don't participate in elections, more than the sum of both major sides currently voting.
That block needs to be persuaded to participate.
Thank you for the ping.
If we put our faith in God, first, we will come through this trying time.
As God’s people left Egypt, they spent 40 years in the desert (in desperation) because they did not trust in Him. We must trust, and follow through, to triumph in His name.
I’ve been saying this for quite a long time. Either the Republicans change their ways, or they will die like the Whigs.
Well, now I’m inclined to say that the GOP has gone way past the point where the Whigs died. The question is now not whether the Republicans need to be replaced, but whether the country has enough good people willing to WORK TOGETHER to replace them. Can we get the fiscal conservatives, the libertarians, the moral conservatives, the social conservatives, and so on—usually seen as at least three distinct groups—to work together?
I really don’t know. It would take someone as strong and reliable and resolutely principled as Sarah Palin to pull it all together, but I’m not sure if the media and the “conservative” Establishment will ever permit it. Or whether enough decent people remain who can see through the lies of the press and the GOPe, propping up the Democrat lies.
As I said last time around, I don’t see anyone but Sarah who is strong enough to pull us out of this mess. But people got distracted by Newt Gingrich—who talks a great game but has a lot of warts and betrayals at this point, and who stayed in just long enough to eliminate Rick Santorum who was running ahead of him and give it to Mitt Romney—who in turn promptly gave it back to Obama.
So, yes, I think the GOP is defunct. But that doesn’t mean it will go away, unless conservatives somehow can get together and back a really serious, capable, and totally reliable candidate. We need someone of the stature of Churchill or Lincoln (like him or not). Sarah’s the only one in sight. But we need to get together, and I’m not sure how that can be done. But it needs to be done before the GOPe once again uses its inside position to manipulate the primaries and eliminate anyone but their own chosen candidates.
What’s important to remember is that in 1992 when the polling showed Perot would win, he announced he was pulling out, then a few days later after the support went down, he got back in the race.
It looks like he was in it to help Clinton because he didn’t want to win, he just wanted to siphon off votes from Bush 41 who raised taxes breaking his promise.
Pretty easily - online research is your friend.
Sarah Palin can win.
A New American Party can be formed and be successful.
How?
Because Sarah Palin will be able to get 6 to eight million conservative voters to return to the polls, in all states and all regions.
These fresh voters plus the millions of disaffected voters from both parties can lead to conservative victories in the Senate and House and in State races.
TWB
Why would a Libertarian be for gun control, or do I misunderstand what a Libertarian is?
Oh, I’m not despairing. Basically my point was, that 4 or 8 years ago, the question was whether it was time to start a new SECOND party—not a third party in the usual sense—because the GOP was dying.
Well, now I think it’s dead. I won’t say that a new second party is the ONLY solution, because you never can rule anything out completely. But it’s up to about 99%, IMHO.
And you can’t start a real SECOND party without a really great leader and sufficient backing—as was the case with Lincoln.
Sarah’s the only one I see out there. But a lot of conservatives, even Freepers, have been too ready to accept what the press has said about here—even though almost all Freepers agree that the press can never be trusted.
I’m not in a position to lead the way, but I’ll certainly back her if people wake up, and she is willing to serve.
‘you can’t start a real SECOND party without a really great leader and sufficient backing—as was the case with Lincoln.’
From my humble success in life, I have drawn the conclusion that if one has a really good idea, then the money will come.
The money is not the problem, the good idea is the challenge.
And I think Sarah Palin with a New American Party is a great leader with the principles that will generate sufficient backing.
TWB
I believe she would win. There is an enormous amount of ill will toward the ruling class. It has reached revolutionary proportions. Sarah has the charismatic ability and the principles to capture the imagination of a substantial portion of the populas.
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