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Democrats see same-sex marriage as issue that will mobilize voters
The Washington Post ^ | January 24, 2014 | Juliet Eilperin, Niraj Chokshi and Robert Barnes

Posted on 01/26/2014 1:49:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Video: Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring has concluded that the state's ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional and he will no longer defend it in federal lawsuits.

Public opinion on same-sex marriage has shifted so dramatically in recent years that Democratic groups now see the issue as a critical way to mobilize voters in a slew of races up and down the ballot.

Just a decade ago, widespread opposition to gay marriage did just the opposite, allowing Karl Rove to mobilize conservatives in 13 states and help reelect George W. Bush as president.

The changing political dynamics were on full display this week as Virginia Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) announced he would not defend the state’s ban on same-sex marriage on the grounds that it was unconstitutional. Herring won a close election with strong support from gay-rights groups, and his decision infuriated conservatives, who accused him of violating his oath to uphold state laws.

Ballot initiatives on same-sex marriage are already in the works in Oregon, and possibly Indiana and Ohio, this fall...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Indiana; Ohio; Virginia; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2014; 2014election; 2016election; democrats; election2014; election2016; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; indiana; julieteilperin; lavendermafia; markherring; nirajchokshi; ohio; oregon; robertbarnes; samesexmarriage; virginia; washingtonpost

1 posted on 01/26/2014 1:49:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What will be the Left’s next platform? Incest? Child brides? Nambla?


2 posted on 01/26/2014 1:54:20 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are correct, it will mobilize voters, TO DEFEAT IT AND DEMS!


3 posted on 01/26/2014 1:55:40 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014theyearofdeadRINOs)
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To: realcleanguy

4 posted on 01/26/2014 1:56:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The changing political dynamics were on full display this week as Virginia Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) announced he would not defend the state’s ban on same-sex marriage on the grounds that it was unconstitutional. Herring won a close election with strong support from gay-rights groups, and his decision infuriated conservatives, who accused him of violating his oath to uphold state laws.

Uh not, lying ComPost. He lied to Virginia voters and stabbed them in the back.

5 posted on 01/26/2014 1:56:40 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://virginiavirtucon.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/why-attorney-general-mark-herring-should-be-impeached/


6 posted on 01/26/2014 1:59:09 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: realcleanguy

It would be interesting to get ahold of NAMBLA’s membership list.Wonder how many DC politicians are members of that diseased group.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 1:59:32 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: realcleanguy

Correct! What’s next for them? 2014 is the last hope for us.


8 posted on 01/26/2014 1:59:32 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014theyearofdeadRINOs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In EVERY STATE that homosexual marriage has been placed on the ballot, the voters in those states DEFEATED it.

It is the COURTS over-turning of the Voters wishes in those states, that got homosexual marriage implemented.

The Democrats are severely mis-reading this issue --- I say let them keep mis-reading it.

They are right though, that voters will be motivated to get to the polls --- to defeat them in November!

9 posted on 01/26/2014 1:59:53 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The changing political dynamics were on full display this week as Virginia Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) announced he would not defend the state’s ban on same-sex marriage on the grounds that it was unconstitutional. Herring won a close election with strong support from gay-rights groups, and his decision infuriated conservatives, who accused him of violating his oath to uphold state laws.

Uh not, lying ComPost. He lied to Virginia voters and stabbed them in the back.

10 posted on 01/26/2014 2:01:08 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Farmer Dean

The members of NAMBLA are people I don’t want to know. They are sick!


11 posted on 01/26/2014 2:03:39 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014theyearofdeadRINOs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I failed to bookmark the thread of video of the young woman confronting her former teacher over the phone about abuse that had occurred when she was a student; anyone seen it?


12 posted on 01/26/2014 2:06:14 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What needs to be analyzed are the people who will vote single issue on it, and those for whom it will be a “tipping point” issue.

I’d guess at this point the largest popupation segment are the ambivilants. The ones who aren’t going to choose what candidate to vote for based on it.

After that, the single issue and tipping point voters against it, followed by those single issue and tipping point for it. So, net, in most places with a “balanced” electorate (not San Francisco, for instance) the issue favors candidates opposed to it.


13 posted on 01/26/2014 2:13:22 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: gusopol3

Not familiar with that situation, perhaps someone else here is, though.


14 posted on 01/26/2014 2:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

I doubt that. Our Nation has changed (for the worse). Poll after poll shows voters in favor. It won’t matter in the States in which we will win anyway. Where this is going to hurt us is in the purple States.

America doesn’t share our values anymore.


15 posted on 01/26/2014 2:16:30 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the DemocRATS are smart, which they are not, they’ll ALL run on homosexual “marriage, ObamaCare and amnesty for invaders. All three are at the top of the low information voters’ “must do quickly before Americans wake up” list.


16 posted on 01/26/2014 2:17:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Watch the Grammy’s tonight. Marrying lots of couples, on air. ALL kinds of couples. Ugh alert.


17 posted on 01/26/2014 2:19:39 PM PST by codder too
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3114139/posts

Found it, it’s compelling


18 posted on 01/26/2014 2:20:37 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Often times I think the Democrat party is just politically a lot smarter than the Republicans, but not on this issue. Typically they’ll pick something like the “War on Women” where they know none of the Republicans will have to balls to point call out Bill Clinton as the biggest misogynist in recent history or refute the old stereotype of the GOP as being the “party of white men”.

I don’t knof if they’ve picked the right fight on gay marriage. The segment of the population that really supports it is also the lowest-information segment, the kind Jesse Watters interviews on BOR that don’t know who Joe Biden even is. Lots of traditionalists don’t think much of all the gay crap, and they vote.


19 posted on 01/26/2014 2:22:36 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A&E might disagree.


20 posted on 01/26/2014 2:23:51 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: gusopol3

it’s gone 400,000+ to 1.1 m + in 5 days


21 posted on 01/26/2014 2:23:55 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When I look in a catalogue and see battery-operated female things and pills for guy's boners, I get repulsed.

Same thing for gay marriage.

22 posted on 01/26/2014 2:37:35 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: usconservative
In EVERY STATE that homosexual marriage has been placed on the ballot, the voters in those states DEFEATED it.

That was true until 2012, when it won in Maine, Maryland, and Washington state. I have no doubt it would win in California, if it went to a vote again.

American attitudes are shifting left. We need to win Americans over to Conservative values if we're going to reverse this.

23 posted on 01/26/2014 2:41:09 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: usconservative

In EVERY STATE that homosexual marriage has been placed on the ballot, the voters in those states DEFEATED it.

Not true!! Please so not lie because it does not make us credible. I know for a fact that Maryland voted for it.


24 posted on 01/26/2014 2:43:57 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

25 posted on 01/26/2014 2:44:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty; usconservative
In EVERY STATE that homosexual marriage has been placed on the ballot, the voters in those states DEFEATED it.

That was true until 2012, when it won in Maine, Maryland, and Washington state. I have no doubt it would win in California, if it went to a vote again.

American attitudes are shifting left. We need to win Americans over to Conservative values if we're going to reverse this.
I don't know if it'll ever be possible to reverse it, but it's crucially important to understand how we lost this issue if we want to win the next one. The biggest problem I see is that we keep taking to ourselves rather than engaging the rest of the county. Which is why people keep posting here that gay marriage has never won a popular vote anywhere.
26 posted on 01/26/2014 3:11:15 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

We also need to find ways to avoid or limit spending our money on companies that promote the homosexual agenda.


27 posted on 01/26/2014 3:14:51 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: napscoordinator
Not true!! Please so not lie because it does not make us credible.

It's not a lie, it was a mistake. I was corrected above.

You do understand the difference between a mistake and a lie don't you?

(oh nevermind ...)

28 posted on 01/26/2014 3:18:47 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Just a decade ago, widespread opposition to gay marriage did just the opposite, allowing Karl Rove to mobilize conservatives in 13 states and help reelect George W. Bush as president.
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
29 posted on 01/26/2014 4:38:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The polls say that folks are supportive, now, but I think that they will get a belly full of the activists pushing themselves on every florist, caterer, bakery, church, etc. simply to make a political point. I foresee lawsuits against the Catholic Church, especially, since they don't like the Church's teaching against homosexuality, and they will try to force Catholic parishes to hold same sex 'marriages', or have their tax exempt status taken away.

I think Catholic Churches should stop doing the civil part of marriages entirely, and not be an agent of the State. They could do Sacramental Marriages ONLY, within the teachings of the Church, and that precludes same sex marriage.

30 posted on 01/26/2014 5:37:35 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: napscoordinator

Maryland did in fact vote for it.


31 posted on 01/26/2014 6:52:55 PM PST by NotSoFreeStater (If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Worse, when he was accused of planning to do this during the election, he denied it, and the news media denounced the claims as lies.

Also, he actually voted FOR it. So now I’d like someone to force him to explain why he would vote for something he thought was unconstitutional.

Or when the constitution changed.


32 posted on 01/26/2014 6:56:45 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; WhiskeyX; GraceG; Gay State Conservative; FlingWingFlyer; ...
Public opinion on same-sex marriage has shifted so dramatically in recent years that Democratic groups now see the issue as a critical way to mobilize voters in a slew of races up and down the ballot.

Well, we see same-sex marriage as a critical way to mobilize voters against the perverse candidates who are running in favor of this inane notion. Sounds like organizing for "gay marriage" a desperation move of a 'Rat Party in deep trouble.

It's more than a moral issue. It's a fiscal issue as well. "Gay marriage" offers some "newlyweds" the availability of government goodies that they couldn't have qualified for otherwise, so legalizing it would increase government spending on all levels. Of course, handing out more and more from government has been a core "principle" of the 'Rat Party for decades.

33 posted on 01/26/2014 7:09:48 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: cripplecreek; All
Democrats protect women about as well as Jeffery Dahmer protected his dinner guests.

I'd laugh at that if it weren't so serious - if you know what I mean.

34 posted on 01/26/2014 7:13:50 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
It is amazing that the Democrats and the MSM think they have convinced 51% of the country that the demands of 2% of the country should dominate the election.

-PJ

35 posted on 01/26/2014 8:21:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: usconservative
In EVERY STATE that homosexual marriage has been placed on the ballot, the voters in those states DEFEATED it.

Until 2012. Didn't it finally win in Maine and a few other states? If courts keep telling voters that they are wrong, eventually the voters cave.

36 posted on 01/26/2014 9:50:41 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: ExCTCitizen

Pretty soon you will be accused of H8 for that.


37 posted on 01/26/2014 9:51:23 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: gusopol3; 2ndDivisionVet

How long are they sending that girl to jail for?


38 posted on 01/26/2014 9:53:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Political Junkie Too; All
It is amazing that the Democrats and the MSM think they have convinced 51% of the country that the demands of 2% of the country should dominate the election.

Yes, and it's their arrogance and cockiness about it, which exudes from the posted WaPo article here, that should motivate us, the opposition, to work hard to beat them at the polls.

BTW, not all homosexuals are in favor of same-sex marriage.

39 posted on 01/26/2014 10:09:47 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: nickcarraway

I’m surprised Youtube hasn’t taken it down yet.


40 posted on 01/27/2014 3:03:44 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: justiceseeker93; Grampa Dave; GOPJ; sickoflibs
Democrats see same-sex marriage as an issue that will mobilize voters----watta coincidence, lock-stepping Dems said almost the exact same thing about Obamacare (the big effin' deal that morphed into a big effin' debacle).
41 posted on 01/27/2014 3:40:39 AM PST by Liz
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To: RIghtwardHo

I hope you are wrong. I doubt it.


42 posted on 01/27/2014 5:37:15 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014theyearofdeadRINOs)
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To: nickcarraway

True, what I said might be a hate crime.


43 posted on 01/27/2014 5:39:29 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (2014theyearofdeadRINOs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From a Republican, you can bet your bottom it will!


44 posted on 01/27/2014 10:05:16 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: justiceseeker93

Sure. That’s how they’ll come from behind in the South./sarc


45 posted on 01/28/2014 12:28:43 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: gusopol3; doug from upland

“Not available in your country” — youtube of the woman confronting her molester teacher; when I had checked 2 days ago, it was up to 1.1 m views


46 posted on 01/29/2014 3:55:46 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

For those who missed it, it was very compelling. Phoning and confronting her molester, who admitted it. But she said that she was just trying the help the young girl. Gee, ok, they I guess it is fine with the libs.

Another girl has come forward. I have a feeling this teacher is going to be indicted and hopefully spend some time in the gray bar motel.


47 posted on 01/29/2014 6:28:13 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: SuziQ

Brilliant idea. We need to end the corporate income tax and get the government out of religion completely.


48 posted on 01/31/2014 7:07:35 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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