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Palestinians set fire to Joseph's Tomb
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 16 October 2003 | MARGOT DUDKEVITCH

Posted on 10/16/2003 10:48:12 AM PDT by anotherview

Oct. 16, 2003
Palestinians set fire to Joseph's Tomb
By MARGOT DUDKEVITCH

Joseph's Tomb set on fire Photo: AP Advertisement

The IDF permitted hundreds of Jewish worshippers access to Joseph's Tomb in Nablus to pray at the shrine early Thursday.

Later the worshippers left in buses accompanied by IDF forces who guarded them throughout the visit.

Shortly after their departure a group of Palestinian youths arrived at the site and set fire to the shrine throwing burning tires inside the compound.

The local Palestinian fire brigade arrived and extinguished the flames.

It was the fourth time authorization was given to Jews to pray at the site since security forces were forced to leave the site in October 2000 as a Palestinian mob descended, ransacked and vandalized the holy site and prevented the evacuation of Border policeman Madhat Yusef who bled to death.

IDF officials said the approval was given to the worshippers because of the Succoth holiday. It was the largest group ever to be allowed to enter the area.

In the past three years, hundreds of Jews have snuck into the tomb to pray illegally despite a ban issued by the OC Central Command that forbids Israelis from entering areas under full Palestinian control.

In September, Palestinians shot at IDF paratroopers who had reached the site to evacuate a number of Jewish worshippers who arrived without permission to pray there.

Israeli security officials said the last time the army gave permission to a group of religious Jews was in July.

In the early morning hours the worshippers erected a Succa at the site and former Sephardic chief Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu led them in prayers.


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Yossi Beilin wants to trust Judaism's holiest sites to these people. That makes lots of sense to me... not.

You've got to love how Islamic people respect Jewish and Christian holy sites.

1 posted on 10/16/2003 10:48:14 AM PDT by anotherview
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To: yonif; SJackson; Alouette; Yehuda; American in Israel; zx2dragon
ping
2 posted on 10/16/2003 10:48:53 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview
It's stone, right?
3 posted on 10/16/2003 10:50:05 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: anotherview
Muslims respect nothing religious that isn't of Islam.
4 posted on 10/16/2003 10:50:24 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Alouette
Bump
5 posted on 10/16/2003 10:54:16 AM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: anotherview
OMG
6 posted on 10/16/2003 10:55:16 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Islamic Respect of America and Americans


7 posted on 10/16/2003 10:57:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: anotherview
I'm no Bible scholar but it seems to me I read in the Old Testament about how these guys messed with Abraham's bones and they paid a heavy price. I wouldn't want to mess with Joseph's burial site. No sirree. I try not to piss God off.
8 posted on 10/16/2003 11:00:32 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: RightWhale

Interior of Joseph's tomb before first muslim attacks a few years ago

Interior of Tomb AFTER first muslim attacks...

dozens of more before and after pictures and 2 video clips at the top and bottom of this web page.

9 posted on 10/16/2003 11:01:35 AM PDT by Yehuda (http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: anotherview
Maybe they were just trying to light up the shine so everyone could see better.


Blood boiling sarcasm.
10 posted on 10/16/2003 11:02:30 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (PORK AKBAR!!)
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks for posting the pictures. As difficult as they are to view, I think it is necessary to remind us of who what we are dealing with.
11 posted on 10/16/2003 11:02:31 AM PDT by ALASKA (That's my own personal, correct opinion and I'm going with it!)
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To: anotherview; Alouette
sad bump
12 posted on 10/16/2003 11:02:45 AM PDT by Yehuda (http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: anotherview
Visit Hagia Sophia in Instanbul. The Turk Butchers turned it into a Mosque.
13 posted on 10/16/2003 11:02:51 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Yehuda
Actually, the Mossad must have done this. Those Palestinians in the photos were used by the Mossad. It is part of Israel's war on all Islam. Just ask Bashar al-Assad. Besides, according to the Malaysian Prime Minister the Jews rule the world, so those Jews could have stopped this unless they want it to happen. It's all a Zionist plot to discredit those poor Palestinian freedom fighters. I know it's true because I heard it on al-Jazeera.
14 posted on 10/16/2003 11:05:02 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: Saundra Duffy

We can always hope. It's gonna be real hard to not celebrate any horrific event that affects Palis.
15 posted on 10/16/2003 11:05:37 AM PDT by Stinkerbell
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To: ZULU
Yep. For those who don't know the Hagia Sophia is the holiest site to the Eastern Orthodox Church.
16 posted on 10/16/2003 11:05:50 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Some folks just need killin'.
The sooner, the better.
17 posted on 10/16/2003 11:06:47 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Yehuda
Those filthy rotten stinking muslim pigs.

Soldiers of Satan.

And Bush wants to give them their own terror state.

Oh how the Wrath must be building.
18 posted on 10/16/2003 11:15:22 AM PDT by tubavil
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To: ZULU
Visit Hagia Sophia in Instanbul. The Turk Butchers turned it into a Mosque.

Visit Pantheon in Roma. The Butcher Christians turned it into church. < \sarcasm. >

19 posted on 10/16/2003 11:18:26 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Yehuda
Those bastards!!!!!!!!!
20 posted on 10/16/2003 11:20:40 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: anotherview
Find them and shoot them. End of story. That goes for ALF and ELF members too. I'm sick of all this shiite.

FMCDH

21 posted on 10/16/2003 11:22:46 AM PDT by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

palestinian caretakers


Destroyed gravestone at traditional burial site for biblical patriarch Joseph.


22 posted on 10/16/2003 11:22:47 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: anotherview
To them, the only Christian and Jewish holy sites are the remains from bus or cafe bombings. Dead Christians, Jews and American good will ambassadors are all they get holy about.
23 posted on 10/16/2003 11:28:08 AM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: SJackson
God's wrath upon the filthy despoilers!
24 posted on 10/16/2003 11:28:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Take only as directed.)
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To: SJackson
God's wrath upon the filthy despoilers!
25 posted on 10/16/2003 11:28:23 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Take only as directed.)
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To: anotherview
You've got to love how Islamic people respect Jewish and Christian holy sites.

These are just extremists < /sarcasm>

26 posted on 10/16/2003 11:29:05 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: TexasCowboy
"....That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet..."
27 posted on 10/16/2003 11:31:17 AM PDT by HeadOn (God-fearing American)
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To: anotherview
Note to the leftists who wanted to negotiate away rights to the Temple Mount: "How long do you think the West Wall would survive Palestinian custody?
28 posted on 10/16/2003 11:31:22 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Yehuda
Thanks for the pics and the link to the Shomron Mountain Settlements, Yehuda.

I thought it looked familiar and it is -- I've bought a few of this necklace from the jeweler linked from their main English page:


29 posted on 10/16/2003 11:33:44 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (liberals - the other white meat)
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To: Yehuda
Oh, and when we go to Israel, my dad and I are planning to go visit them when we venture out to Judea and Samaria.
30 posted on 10/16/2003 11:35:31 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (liberals - the other white meat)
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To: ALASKA
Thanks for posting the pictures. As difficult as they are to view, I think it is necessary to remind us of who what we are dealing with.

Courtesy of the "Religion of Peace":

31 posted on 10/16/2003 11:38:32 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (liberals - the other white meat)
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To: Alter Kaker
Visit Pantheon in Roma. The Butcher Christians turned it into church. [lame] < \sarcasm. >

How many Muslims did the Orthodox send to the lions within the walls of Haga Sophia for the crime of having a different religion?

32 posted on 10/16/2003 11:42:03 AM PDT by Jim Cane
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To: anotherview
this is past freakin ridiculous
33 posted on 10/16/2003 11:45:26 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: NYC GOP Chick
let me know when you are going, we might have something for you to take!
34 posted on 10/16/2003 11:47:44 AM PDT by Yehuda (http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Jim Cane
Well... that happened a really long time ago... so, I don't think your example really applies.
35 posted on 10/16/2003 11:49:02 AM PDT by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, we must, at once, raise the black flag!)
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To: rwfromkansas; SJackson; Texas_Jarhead; Bigg Red; NYC GOP Chick; Alouette
"Those bastards!!!!!!!!! "

Here, there, and Everywhere: Vandals destroy Sukkah at Canadian university

36 posted on 10/16/2003 11:49:12 AM PDT by Yehuda (http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Yehuda
Definitely! I was thinking of asking you for any pointers, places to visit, etc.

Don't know when we're going, since we still have to get our passports, but I'm going do that next week, I suppose.

37 posted on 10/16/2003 11:49:46 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (liberals - the other white meat)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Are you going to Israel? For vacation? I know some sites you might want to see...
38 posted on 10/16/2003 11:52:52 AM PDT by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, we must, at once, raise the black flag!)
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To: carton253
???

It wasn't my example. Also, a little historical note: the Christians DIDN'T use the Haga Sophia as a killing grounds for the Muslims, whearas the Romans DID use the Colliseum to butcher Christians.

The poster to whom I was responding made a big silly.

39 posted on 10/16/2003 11:57:55 AM PDT by Jim Cane
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To: carton253
???

It wasn't my example. Also, a little historical note: the Christians DIDN'T use the Haga Sophia as a killing grounds for the Muslims, whearas the Romans DID use the Colliseum to butcher Christians.

The poster to whom I was responding made a big silly.

40 posted on 10/16/2003 11:57:56 AM PDT by Jim Cane
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To: carton253
???

It wasn't my example. Also, a little historical note: the Christians DIDN'T use the Haga Sophia as a killing grounds for the Muslims, whearas the Romans DID use the Colliseum to butcher Christians.

The poster to whom I was responding made a big silly.

41 posted on 10/16/2003 11:57:56 AM PDT by Jim Cane
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To: Jim Cane
Shame on me for not understanding that... Sorry!
42 posted on 10/16/2003 12:00:28 PM PDT by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, we must, at once, raise the black flag!)
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To: 1bigdictator; 2sheep; a_witness; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; American in Israel; Anamensis; ...
Religion of Piss Alert.

FRmail me to be added or removed from this pro-Israel ping list.


43 posted on 10/16/2003 12:08:36 PM PDT by Alouette (Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
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The IDF permitted hundreds of Jewish worshippers access to Joseph's Tomb in Nablus to pray at the shrine early Thursday.

Please pardon my ignorance, but I have a few basic questions about this situation I hope someone can answer:

I could understand if these were Catholics but don't know enough about Judaism to understand their motivation. I had been under the impression that many Jews didn't believe in an afterlife.
44 posted on 10/16/2003 12:09:53 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Alter Kaker
"Visit Pantheon in Roma. The Butcher Christians turned it into church. < \sarcasm. >"

Better to change a place of paganism into a place of non-violent worship than for a horde of pillaging, raping, enslaving, plundering barbarians, fresh from the steppes of central Asia, to change a church into a mosque.

I guess the Turks weren't too good at building things for themselves. They were better at taking over other people's edifices and altering them for their own purposes!

Vlad Tepes lives!!!!!
45 posted on 10/16/2003 12:10:25 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: anotherview
Supposedly, this site was holy to Muslims as well. Palesites must have shi'ite for brains.
46 posted on 10/16/2003 12:13:13 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty
That's what I was thinking... didn't Islam co-op all Jewish and Christian saints as their own. So, why destroy Joseph's tomb?
47 posted on 10/16/2003 12:14:57 PM PDT by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, we must, at once, raise the black flag!)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Joseph as in the coat of many colors. The son of Jacob who was sold into slavery in Egypt.
48 posted on 10/16/2003 12:15:41 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview
In truth there are no such things as "holy" sites. That doesn't mean its nice to destroy something that someone else reveres, but God is not concerned with stones and bones. The murders that the terrorists commit are far more heinous than whatever they do to ancient relics, even if it all comes from the same rage.
49 posted on 10/16/2003 12:18:14 PM PDT by thirdheavenward
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To: anotherview
Isn't that an oxymoron--having fanatic Islamics in charge of Jewish holy sites? Remembered watching or reading that when Israel "reconvened" as a nation, that Jewish holy sites were turned over to the Arab religious leaders to control. Jeepers! Wondered what dunderhead came up with that idea. Perhaps Ehud Barak, Shimon Peres or Menachem Begin?
50 posted on 10/16/2003 12:21:25 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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