Matthews, Scholars Strongly Denounce Reagan Smear in CBS Miniseries (Hardball 10-21-03)

MSNBC - Hardball w/ Chris Matthews - Transcript ^ | 21 October 2003

[okie01]

Hard to grasp Chrissie Matthews inflamed at the media defamation of a great conservative, like Ronaldus Magnus.

Guess I'll have to give him a gold star for the day.

[Stultis]

Here's the FR posting of the story that broke the news about the leaked script. A surprisingly critical expose from the NY Slimes:

Grumbling Trickles Down From Reagan Biopic (by JIM RUTENBERG, NYTIMES, 10/20/03)

[Dave S]

Im not surprised by Matthews reaction. Chris liked Reagan and appreciated him for what he did for the country in ending the Cold War. Matthews despite harping a lot about the war in Iraq has written a lot of good things about President Bush. He devotes a whole chapter to him in one of his books.

[Howlin]

The thing you have to remember about Matthews is that he is "one of them." He considers himself a participant in a lot of history, i.e., Tip O'Neil, et al.. He likes the stories STRAIGHT.

[Billthedrill]

Just curious. Does it hurt to be stupid and hateful?

[kennedyd]

One o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock ZOT!!!

[Howlin]

And to think, that is supposed to be a slam of Reagan.

Matthews LAUGHED OUT LOUD at that line; he said it sounded like something out of an Edward G. Robinson movie, something like Hollywood writers *think* people say.

[hellinahandcart]

With an original screen name like yours, you'll go far here...

[GreenLanternCorps]

If you want tobe taken seriously in this forum, please use proper punctuation and grammar.

"interesting that they are airing this miniseries on the 20th anniversary of raygun's disastrous foreign policy gaff in beirut. you all remember, the one that resulted in 241 dead Marines and sailors. i wonder if they included that in the miniseries as well?
i really enjoyed in the transcript where anderson whines about how they never addressed the raygun recovery. i guess that would be where he put the us $3,000,000,000,000, that's 3 trillion dollars in the hole."

[Urbane_Guerilla]

Look again at what RR says about gays.

RR was nothing if not a realistic evaluator of fact. He did not seem to regard homosexulity as a threat. Maybe, based on his Hollywood experience, he regarded it as natural, in the sense that most did not choose it.

The one thing which distinguishes RR, is the soundness of his judgments.

[prairiebreeze]

About 2 hours north of me.

Shivers!!

I've only read a little bit about this. Hopefully it will get more air time coverage tomorrow.

Prairie

[Stultis]

interesting that they are airing this miniseries on the 20th anniversary of raygun's disastrous foreign policy gaff in beirut. you all remember, the one that resulted in 241 dead Marines and sailors.

So I take it you are pleased with the Bush policy of standing up to the terrorists, fighting them on multiple fronts, and not cutting and running in Afghanistan and Iraq?

BTW, although Reagan was focused primarily on defeating the Soviet Union (which was fomenting international terrorism from the 70's right through it's demise) he kept forces in Beruit for something like 6 months following the bombing, IIRC, specifically to avoid an appearance of weakness. Contrast to Clinton's post-haste retreat from Somalia where the casualities were much lighter, after a battle that the Rangers and Delta force actually won. (They carried out the raid they had been tasked, and returned with subjects they had captured in spite of everything.)

i really enjoyed in the transcript where anderson whines about how they never addressed the raygun recovery.

Yep. Starting with the double-digit inflation/interest rates/unemployment of the Carter era, Reagan's policies inititate the longest period of economic growth in American history. With brief and shallow recessions in '92 and '01, it's lasted Twenty Years!

i guess that would be where he put the us $3,000,000,000,000, that's 3 trillion dollars in the hole.

Which turned out to be a small fraction of the explosive GDP that Reagan's policies created, and a pittance compared to the value of winning the cold war. The growth in revenue under Reagan would have actually paid for defeating the Soviet Union in full if the congress had managed to limit domestic spending to to the inflation rate (which of course plummeted under Reagan).

Thank you for helping to remind us of this great President's accomplishments!

[krb]

Don't worry, buddy, we've got your back.

[NJJ]

I think conservatives need to make it loud and clear that we will boycott (and encourage others to boycott) the sponsors of this television program.

Boycott the Network, like we did with CNN. Sponsors don't care if you agree with them, they only want to know you are watching their advertising. The best result is when they spend their advertising dollars on a network, NO ONE IS WATCHING.

[GreenLanternCorps]

Correction : "to be"

[Semper Paratus]

I could see Reagan shrugging off this latest insult with a dismissive:
"Well, there they go again."

[Stultis]

My respondee was there a minute ago, but only the faint scent of ozone remains.

[Stultis]

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