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Islamic Jihad Coming to Canada
National Post via FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 10/23/03 | Stewart Bell

Posted on 10/23/2003 1:31:35 AM PDT by kattracks

Canada's intelligence service has warned police that members of one of the deadliest terrorist groups in the Middle East may try to infiltrate Canada to set up a support base, a newly released report reveals.

The report says the discovery of a Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) fundraising network in Florida "raises the possibility of PIJ elements crossing the border to develop a similar infrastructure in Canada." It also claims Iran and Syria have provided money, training and safe haven to the radical Palestinian group, responsible for a wave of suicide bombings in Israel.

Marked "For Police and Security Officials' Use Only," the Canadian Security Intelligence Service document was released to the National Post under Access to Information. The report is dated May, 2003, three months after the Post reported that Islamic Jihad had tried to obtain a fraudulent visa so its treasurer, Muhammed Tasir Hassan Al-Khatib, could come to Canada.

The Islamic Jihad has long collected and laundered money in Canada to finance Palestinian violence.

However, the report suggests there are concerns that, under pressure in the United States, the group might go the next step and try to build a network north of the border.

The PIJ would hardly be the first terror group to do so.

An estimated 50 terror outfits already have a presence in the country, which they use as a hideout and a base for fundraising, propaganda and planning attacks.

Islamic Jihad agreed to a ceasefire last summer but has since resumed attacks against Israelis. On Monday, an Israeli F-16 fighter jet fired missiles at the home of a senior leader of the organization but missed its target.

The CSIS report described Islamic Jihad as a Gaza-based Muslim fundamentalist organization that has been killing Israeli civilians and security forces since September, 1986.

"PIJ attacks have included, but are not limited to, assaults with knives, axes, grenades, car bombs, and, particularly after 1994, the use of suicide bombers," the CSIS report says.

Islamic Jihad directs its violence at Israelis, but has also conducted an attack in Egypt and threatened to target South Korea over the country's participation in the Iraq war. It also said it would kill Norwegian observers monitoring the failed Oslo peace accords.

During a recent visit to Canada, Amr Moussa, Secretary-General of the Arab League, denied that Middle Eastern countries were providing any support whatsoever to Palestinian terrorist groups.

But the CSIS report shows that while the Islamic Jihad hard-core membership consists of no more than 200 fighters in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, it depends on an international support structure for money, weapons and training.

One of the group's founders, Fathi Shaqaqi, admitted the PIJ "received Iranian funds and that money and equipment had been transferred to the occupied territories to finance terror operations and to support the families of PIJ activists."

The group also gets "limited logistical support from Syria," CSIS said. "In 1997, it was assessed that Syria provided various terrorist organizations, including the PIJ, with safe haven in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley."

In addition, Islamic Jihad built a North American support network that, until recently, was based in Florida, where university professor Ramadan Shallah ran a front organization called the World and Islamic Studies Institute (WISE).

Sami al-Arian, another Florida professor involved in WISE, was arrested this year. Court documents filed by U.S. investigators at the time alleged that an unnamed Canadian-based Islamic Jihad operative moved thousands of dollars from accounts here to fund the PIJ.

The Islamic Jihad is one of 31 terrorist groups outlawed by Cabinet order. Critics argue the Liberal government is not doing enough to stop terrorists from using Canada as base for supporting worldwide violence.

Some former intelligence officials want Ottawa set up a foreign intelligence service like the CIA. Last Friday, Ward Elcock, the CSIS Director, revealed that CSIS was already heavily involved in covert foreign spy missions, which he said had become "an integral part of the service's operations."



TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: alarian; alkhatib; canada; dajjal; islamic; islamicjihad; jihad; jihadnextdoor; moussa; pij; qiyama; shaqaqi; wise
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1 posted on 10/23/2003 1:31:36 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Maybe we need to set up support structures to support conservative causes... oh they mean illegal things too
2 posted on 10/23/2003 1:33:33 AM PDT by GeronL (Please visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
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To: kattracks
Gather up your thingies kiddies, we're takin' this show on the road!!!!
3 posted on 10/23/2003 1:59:49 AM PDT by exnavy
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LINKS OF INTEREST:


FOX NEWS.com (AP): "FBI PROBING RICIN TRACES ON LETTER IN SOUTH CAROLINA" (October 22, 2003) (Read More...)


NATIONAL POST.com (A Part of CANADA.com): "ISLAMIC JIHAD COMING TO CANADA, CSIS FEARS Terrorists In U.S.: Report" (October 22, 2003) (Read More...)

NATIONAL POST.com (A Part of CANADA.com): "CSIS ADMITS SPYING ABROAD" by Stewart Bell (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Al-Qaeda has long operated in Canada. It has sent sleeper agents and trained terrorists to Canada since 1993 and has tried to use the country as a platform for attacking the United States. There has been concern al-Qaeda might target Canada since Osama bin Laden denounced Ottawa last year for its participation in the war in Afghanistan.") (October 20, 2003) (Read More...)
On The Net...AS-SAHWAH.com: "IslamicAwakening.Com Discussion Board: JIHAAD"


FBI.gov - War On Terrorism: "SEEKING INFORMATION" (Read More...)

FBI.gov: "MOST WANTED TERRORISTS" (Read More...)


NY POST.com: "NEW FBI SECTION FOCUSES ON WMD" (October 22, 2003) (Read More...)

On The Net...FBI.gov - "CONGRESSIONAL STATEMENTS" (Read More...)

WorldNetDaily.com: "UNCLE SAM WANTS YOU -- TO SHOOT DOWN MISSILES Pentagon Solicits Ideas on Best Plan to Protect America" (October 19, 2003) (Read More...)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "AL QAEDA PURSUED A 'DIRTY BOMB'" by Bill Gertz (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Adnan El Shukrijumah is being sought by the FBI and CIA in connection with a plot to detonate a dirty bomb -- a conventional explosive laced with radioactive material.") (October 17, 2003) (Read More...)
FBI.gov - Seeking Information: "ADNAN G. EL SHUKRIJUMAH" (View Photos;Read More...)


FOX NEWS.com (AP): "FEDS: VIRGINIA-BASED NETWORK FUNDED TERROR" (October 18, 2003) (Read More...)

WTOP.com (AP): "MULTI-DAY DRILL IN VIRGINIA TO TEST READINESS FOR TERROR ATTACK" (October 18, 2003) (Read More...)


WASHINGTON TIMES.com (AP): "SAUDI ARABIA IS HIRING LAWYERS TO REPRESENT ITS TERROR SUSPECTS" (October 19, 2003) (Read More...)

CNN.com - Law Center: "SAUDI PRINCES SEEK IMMUNITY AGAINST 9/11 LAWSUITS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Lawyers representing two Saudi princes argued Friday that their clients have immunity from lawsuits relating to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, because they are diplomatic officials.") (October 17, 2003) (Read More...)
TOWNHALL.com: "EMBARRASSING AND DANGEROUS" - Column by Gary Aldrich (October 22, 2003) (Read More...)


INA TODAY.com - INTERNATIONAL NEWS ANALYSIS -- TODAY by Toby Westerman: "MURDER, TERROR, AND MARXIST GASOLINE" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Another exile, Marcos Ferreira, is former head of Venezuela's Passport and Identification Card Administration. Ferreira revealed that the Chavez government provided false identities and Venezuelan passports to some 300 "Arab subversives." Among those receiving passports were individuals on the FBI's terror watch list who had received special protection from Chavez's secret police, according to Militares Democraticos. Chavez is an open admirer of North Korea, as well as Castro's Cuba, and is believed to have aspirations to acquire nuclear weapons capability.") (October 23, 2003) (Read More...)
On The Net...MILITARES DEMOCRATICOS.com (Read More...)


U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE - Public Announcement: "WORLDWIDE CAUTION" (September 26, 2003) (Read More...)


SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: "ATTACK ON AMERICA!" (UPDATED DAILY.)

4 posted on 10/23/2003 2:20:05 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: kattracks
jihad bump
5 posted on 10/23/2003 3:00:06 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: kattracks
Howdy kattracks. Thanks for the post.

>> During a recent visit to Canada, Amr Moussa, Secretary-General of the Arab League, denied that Middle Eastern countries were providing any support whatsoever to Palestinian terrorist groups. <<

I'll take that to mean they ARE providing support. These people are admitted liars.

Looks like the vermin may try to lauch an attack from the north.....let's see here:

Food.........check
Water........check
AR10A2.......check
extra ammo...check

Lock n Load

Now what was it GWB said? Oh yea, I remember.

BRING IT ON
6 posted on 10/23/2003 3:25:49 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (If we accept responsibility for our own actions, we are indeed worthy of our freedom. Bill Whittle)
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To: appalachian_dweller
What bothers me is our elected officials and others seem to have on blinders as to what's coming. This nicey-nice political correct stuff makes me sick. If anyone doens't think this is a war over God, ya have you head too deep in the sand. These people want to kill us, you, me your family and mine, all non believers. You may laugh and say this is just silly bs but I am with the appalachian-dweller and so are many others I know. You better quietly get ready because it likely won't be long and things will happen. Lock and load, stock up on supplies and deucate your family and friends. IMHO
7 posted on 10/23/2003 3:37:57 AM PDT by JamesA
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To: JamesA
Many people I know think I'm wearing my tin foil too tightly. I do have a few like-minded friends who are also ready for the next 911 and we have a plan.

It's good to know there are other people who also take this threat seriously.

btw...Welcome to FreeRepublic James!
8 posted on 10/23/2003 3:59:02 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (If we accept responsibility for our own actions, we are indeed worthy of our freedom. Bill Whittle)
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To: kattracks
Why would they have to "infiltrate," when Canada effectively has a huge Welcome Sign on their borders?
9 posted on 10/23/2003 4:33:12 AM PDT by Guillermo ( Proud Infidel)
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To: Guillermo
why would they have to infiltrate...

True, very true. Didn't the last director of Canadian intelligence(oxymoron?) shortly after 9/11 call his country a "aircraft carrier for terrorism" in other words a conveniently close base for terrorists interested in attacking/ infiltrating the U.S.? That quote was bandied about a lot on FR, but I can never recall hearing it in the lamestream U.S. or Canadian media. Being that I live in a border town and have easy access to Canadian media, If that quote was in the canuck media , I would've heard it. Maybe the socialist Canadian media spiked the quote...nope that could'nt happen. sarcasm/

10 posted on 10/23/2003 5:03:39 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative
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To: Dajjal; kattracks; JohnathanRGalt; yonif; Bobby777; Jim Robinson
Re post no. 5 you said, "Jihad Bump."

What an interesting moniker you have "Dajjal."
I looked it up in GOOGLE...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Dajjal%22&btnG=Google+Search

Here are a small sampling of the Google results...

Category:    Society > Religion and Spirituality > Islam  

DajjalSystem.com - Exposing the System of the AntiChrist, the ...
Analyzing the system of the AntiChrist, Al-Masih ad-Dajjal,
and what most refer to today as the New World Order. ...
Description: Islamic analysis of the system of the AntiChrist, Al-Masih ad-Dajjal, and the New World Order.
Category: Society > Religion and Spirituality > Opposing Views > New Age
etori.tripod.com/dajjalsystem/home.htm - 58k - Cached - Similar pages

Dajjal - Anti-Christ
Dajjal is the anti-Christ. This page ... Who is the evil Dajjal (the "anti-Christ")?
by Mohammed Ali Ibn Zubair Ali. Note: Rasulullah ...
www.islam.tc/prophecies/masdaj.html - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

Dajjal - New World Order
... soon as possible. Especially my own work about the Dajjal, which i'm
still doing, but is not ready to put up yet. So please come ...
www.geocities.com/islam2jannat/main.htm - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

If you have any doubt regarding DAJJAL, remember that your ...
DAJJAL-THE ANTI CHRIST. ... INSHAALLAH. You will have heard much about DAJJAL - THE
ANTI-CHRIST the Anti-Christ from the Christian and Jewish authorities. ...
www.allaahuakbar.net/free-masons/dajjal.htm - 47k - Cached - Similar pages

Dajjal
NEXT.
members.tripod.com/knm7/dunya_jangon_ke_dahaney_par/ dajjal/dajjal_1.htm - 2k - Cached - Similar pages

Ahadith about Dajjal and Portents of the Hour
Chapter 370 Ahadith about Dajjal and Portents of the Hour. ... Dajjal will be a young
man with very curly hair with one eye protruding (with which he cannot see). ...
www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/ riyad/18/chap370.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

Dajjal
Dajjal. Since Jan 12, 2002. view home page, enter
name: ... Dajjal hasn't created an about page.
209.157.64.200/~dajjal/ - 2k - Cached - Similar pages

Dajjal - The Dark Messiah ( Anti-Christ)
Dajjal - The Dark Messiah ( Anti-Christ). Warning of the coming trials and tribulations
of the dajjal. ... There are three aspects of Dajjal: 1. The individual. ...
www.inter-islam.org/faith/dajjal.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages

Dajjal - the AntiChrist
The Dajjal will be a young man, with short, curly hair, and one eye
floating. ... DAJJAL - THE ANTICHRIST [The Sick Man of Humanity]. ...
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Bismillah
BISMILLA HIR RAHMAANIR RAHEEM, dajjal, dajl, new world order, end of days, signs,
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Your moniker is pretty sick buddy... and that is this Christian's opinion. May God bless your soul.
11 posted on 10/23/2003 9:29:20 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; kattracks; JohnathanRGalt; yonif; Bobby777; Jim Robinson; narses
Your moniker is pretty sick buddy... and that is this Christian's opinion. May God bless your soul.
11 posted on 10/23/2003 9:29 PM PDT by Cindy

I wish I had more time to answer any questions you may have, but I’m rather busy at the moment, and may be away from the computer all this weekend, starting about now.

Thank you for your blessing, and for taking the time for the google search. I am surprised, though, that you did not bother to go to my FreeRepublic home page, where under the “links” section you would have been referenced to these three threads, which could have saved you much time, trouble, and confusion.

Understanding Islamic End-Times Beliefs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/853953/posts
See especially my posts #7, 16, 17, 22, 51, 53, 54, 56, 67, 76 & 77

Dajjal (the Deceiver)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/933079/posts
See especially my posts #1, 2, 3, 4, 14, 20, 21, 29, 36, 37, 39, 50, 51, & 54
(At least now I’m one person closer to my stated goal in #54. lol)

Alert Umma there is a 90% chance that we will see the Jewish Dajjal in our lifetime
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/771345/posts
See especially my posts #17, 18, 26, 29, 30, 40, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 48, 56, 57, 60, 51, 69, 71, 72 & 73

The google search will mostly provide you with the classical description of the Dajjal as an evil individual (the most evil since the serpent in Eden) who attempts to take over the globe, but is stopped and killed by the Mahdi.

“Dajjal” is frequently translated as “Anti-Christ,” but this is not really accurate, since 1) he is more the nemesis of the Mahdi, and 2) the Muslims have such a screwy notion of Christ, whom they call “Isa.”

The factoid which will not easily come up via a google search, but can be found in the writings of Prof. David Cook of Rice University, is this: many mullahs today ignore the classical description of the Dajjal as an individual, and teach that the classical description of an evil, one-eyed giant is a metaphor for the United States, Europe, and Western Civilization (yes, including Canada).

Pardon me for speaking frankly, but if Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, in union with the NY Times, Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, etc. were not suppressing this vital information from the American people, you would not have needed either to do any google searches or to read any of my posts to discover the meaning of the word “Dajjal” and its import in Islamicist terrorism.

The people of America -- and all Western civilization -- ought to have been informed in September, 2001 that the Islamicists believe that we, all of us, collectively, are the “Dajjal” and that this gives them the right -- indeed, the duty -- to slaughter us by any means available.

We cannot properly defend ourselves against terrorism, nor properly plan strategy on how to overcome the terrorists or minimize the threat they pose, nor properly decide how to reform the nations of Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. when crucial information like this is withheld from the voting public.

Until that time that this all is public knowledge, I will do what little I can by being a sort of “walking sandwich billboard” man at FreeRepublic by sardonically taking the nickname and getting it in the public eye of at least the small but significant population of Freepers.

So I’ve chosen this as my FR nickname, with the attitude of “Yeah, right -- only a moron would think that I and my compatriots are the Dajjal!”

I hope this satisfactorily answers your questions. I wish you a pleasant weekend.

God bless you and yours.

12 posted on 10/24/2003 1:47:41 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal; Cindy; kattracks; JohnathanRGalt; yonif; Bobby777; narses

Dajjal Bump!


Dajjal
Dajjal-2





13 posted on 10/24/2003 3:45:42 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt (---- Fight Islamist CyberTerror at: http://haganah.org.il/haganah/index.php ----)
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To: Dajjal
re post no. 12.

I went to your profile page (before I posted my comment to you) and here's your profile (which is still your profile): "Dajjal hasn't created an about page."

Enough said.
14 posted on 10/24/2003 7:53:19 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: appalachian_dweller
When are the sheeple going to figure out that Islam is the religion of satan?

the Muslims are fairly passive until they get strong enough to kill the infidels.

15 posted on 10/24/2003 7:57:46 PM PDT by oldtimer (t)
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To: Cindy
re post no. 12.
I went to your profile page (before I posted my comment to you) and here's your profile (which is still your profile): "Dajjal hasn't created an about page."
Enough said.

You're smarter than that -- I said click on the "Links" section.

16 posted on 10/24/2003 8:53:40 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Cindy
Besides, I gave you the 3 urls in post #12.

Did you read them?????

17 posted on 10/24/2003 8:55:18 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Cindy
Sorry about the wisecrack in #16. You're right -- I've procrastinated doing anything with the Home section of the FR webpage for way too long, on the excuse of not knowing much HTML.
18 posted on 10/25/2003 3:20:03 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Cindy
re post no. 12.
I went to your profile page (before I posted my comment to you) and here's your profile (which is still your profile): "Dajjal hasn't created an about page."
Enough said.

Thought I'd let you know that I spent some time last night and today and worked up a first version of an "About" page. It still needs some spit & polish, but I think I've got all the basic information up.

Thanks again for the push!

19 posted on 11/04/2003 8:24:54 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal; Jim Robinson; JohnathanRGalt; yonif; Destro; Shermy; backhoe; piasa; Dog; ...
Well let's share your page with others, Dajjal.
Thank you for sharing your info with FReepers.
I appreciate the fact that you took the time to
make a profile page. That's about all I have to
say at this time.
20 posted on 11/04/2003 10:24:04 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
What are these idiotic pictures?
21 posted on 11/04/2003 10:28:56 PM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: Cindy; Dajjal
The Mahdi came and went. The British threw his bones into a river in the Sudan a century ago.
22 posted on 11/04/2003 10:31:00 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro; F14 Pilot
Can they rethrow his damned bones back into the river Destro as in pronto?
23 posted on 11/04/2003 10:44:38 PM PST by Cindy
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To: F14 Pilot
Those pictures?

Caricatures of Dajaal, Dajjal --- the alleged "anti-Christ" I believe.
24 posted on 11/04/2003 10:46:33 PM PST by Cindy
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To: kattracks
The USofA needs breathing room. We should run everyone out of Canada and Mexico and stretch our wings.
25 posted on 11/04/2003 10:48:46 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Cindy
Even a dead Mahdi could not escape British revenge. Kitchener immediately ordered the Mahdi’s body hauled out and his tomb destroyed. The body of the Expected One was tossed into the Nile, minus its skull. Kitchener wanted to make it into an inkwell but was persuaded that it would be considered tasteless. So the general ordered the relic reburied. To this day the last remains of the Mahdi lie in an unmarked plot somewhere near Wadi Halfa.
26 posted on 11/04/2003 10:49:22 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
The Kitchener stuff is irrelevant.
27 posted on 11/04/2003 10:55:50 PM PST by Dajjal (Just started to fix up my FR home page -- check it out!)
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To: Dajjal
re your message here in which you said, "My goal is to make the words "Dajjal," "Qiyama," and "Mahdi" common knowledge to the American public."

54 posted on 07/03/2003 3:28 AM PDT by Dajjal
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/933079/posts#54


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You have achieved your goal Dajjal. Also, I have read your profile page and looked at the links and they are quite informative. I'm sure the other FReepers will find it informative too.
28 posted on 11/04/2003 11:11:27 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Destro
re post no.26...

Thank you Destro.
29 posted on 11/04/2003 11:13:32 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Thanks. Can you believe it is over two years since 9/11 and this stuff is not common knowledge????!!!!
30 posted on 11/04/2003 11:14:32 PM PST by Dajjal (Just started to fix up my FR home page -- check it out!)
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To: Destro
Here are two websites for your perusal.

The Signs of Qiyamah

The Future of Islam

31 posted on 11/04/2003 11:17:55 PM PST by Dajjal (Just started to fix up my FR home page -- check it out!)
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To: Dajjal
re post no. 30 ---

Well maybe most of US are not interested in this subject. Maybe soon you will believe that.
32 posted on 11/04/2003 11:33:30 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
But even amongst the ones who are informed about the War on Terror, few know about the Signs of Qiyama. And amongst the few who do, fewer know that "the Dajjal" is now commonly considered not an individual person, but a metaphor for Western Civ.
33 posted on 11/04/2003 11:40:40 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: kattracks
Yep, if I were a crazy-assed Islamic Jihadist, Canada would be a great jumping off base for attacks on America.

Heck, they probably can get free meals, housing and a meeting hall up there by just declaring their intentions!

34 posted on 11/04/2003 11:56:02 PM PST by FixitGuy
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To: Dajjal
re post no.33

As you most likely know from reading my profile page, I am a born-again Christian. My God is God, my Jesus is Lord of all, and the Holy Spirit is with me. The Holy Bible is the book I read. Nowhere in the Bible have I ever found "the Dajjal" nor "the Dajjal" being noted as a metaphor for "Western Civ."

Are you from the UK and are you currently there now? Just curious.
35 posted on 11/04/2003 11:57:16 PM PST by Cindy
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To: FixitGuy
re post no.34...

Well, I sure wish we could fix that problem, FixItGuy.
36 posted on 11/05/2003 12:05:29 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Dajjal
re post no.33 - additional note: The regular posters here on FR who are Muslims, Christians, Jews, atheists, Buddhists, etc. (that I know of) do not seem to dwell on this subject either, Dajjal -- just so you get the BIG picture.
37 posted on 11/05/2003 12:11:39 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Are you from the UK and are you currently there now? Just curious.

No to both. I've been to London, Ontario, if that counts.

Nowhere in the Bible have I ever found "the Dajjal" nor "the Dajjal" being noted as a metaphor for "Western Civ."

It strikes me as funny that the "Mahdi" and the "Dajjal" didn't even make the cut to get mentioned in the Koran. All the references to them are in the Hadith.

According to Prof. David Cook, the expert in the field of Islamic Millennialism, up until around 1980, all the mullahs preached very literally the classical description of the Dajjal as this giant with one blind eye who would nearly conquer the world by force here and seduction there. Cook says that somewhere around 1980, though, many imams began to treat the description of the concept of the Dajjal more as a symbol for the influence of Western culture throughout the globe. Cook says that books describing “the Dajjal” as the Western nations have been on Middle East best seller lists.

I have come upon a scarce few people in the last two years who knew enough about Islam to be conversant in their End Time beliefs, but none of them had any idea that mullahs were identifying the Dajjal with Western culture. All they knew was the classical, literal, "one-eyed giant" description of the Dajjal, like in those "monster" drawings in an earlier post. Thus, they don't see any connection between the Muslim millennial beliefs and the terrorism going on right now.

38 posted on 11/05/2003 1:16:46 AM PST by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
The only future I want to know about is a future without Islam.
39 posted on 11/05/2003 10:45:18 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: kattracks
I'll bet we'll be able to hear the Canucks screaming for U.S. intervention all the way down here in Texas!
40 posted on 11/05/2003 10:46:36 AM PST by Destructor
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To: kattracks
"Canada's intelligence service has warned police that members of one of the deadliest terrorist groups in the Middle East may try to infiltrate Canada to set up a support base, a newly released report reveals."

Canada's intelligence service is full of crap. The Islamic extremists have had organizations in North Vancouver, BC and Windsor, ON for many years now and they know it! That is how the 9/11 terrorists entered and were supported.

41 posted on 11/05/2003 10:48:41 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: appalachian_dweller
Good to know I am not alone. Quietly getting ready, too. Too much funny stuff has happened since 9/11. I just lived through the fires from hell in SoCal. I refuse to believe it is just some kooks out having fun. Tin Foil hat firmly in place.

Red

45 posted on 11/05/2003 11:52:43 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (Wm. Wallace did not cry 'diversity' while being disemboweled.)
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To: Conservative4Ever; oldtimer
Those fires looked really, really bad. Glad your okay.
Check out these threads. Lots of info.

Stay Armed. Stay Alert. Stay Safe.

God Bless.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1013726/posts?q=1&&page=1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1015366/posts

46 posted on 11/05/2003 12:04:22 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (If we accept responsibility for our own actions, we are indeed worthy of our freedom. Bill Whittle)
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To: Dajjal
Thanks for your diligence in this matter.

Whatever happened to the notion of "Know Your Enemy!"
47 posted on 11/05/2003 12:14:07 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: JackRyanCIA
re post no.42 - *smiling now*
48 posted on 11/05/2003 2:19:21 PM PST by Cindy
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To: headsonpikes
re post no. 47.

Nothing happened to it.
It's alive and well...and thriving, you might say.
49 posted on 11/05/2003 2:20:10 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Well, on this site, yes.

I should have have displayed 'ironic rhetorical question' tags.
50 posted on 11/05/2003 2:28:28 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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