Posted on 10/27/2003 8:03:56 PM PST by chance33_98
Reverend says people misinterpret Bible's view on gays
Jennifer Ross | Staff Reporter October 27, 2003
People read the Bible as the absolute truth, but they pick and choose words, phrases and sentences for support, a speaker said Sunday night at the Student Center.
Frank Gorman was the first speaker for Spectrum's People Respecting Our Unique Differences Week.
Gorman, professor of religious studies at Bethany College, discussed what the Bible says about homosexuality. He discussed possible interpretations and misinterpretations.
The church can support or discriminate against gays, lesbians and bisexuals, Gorman said.
"I feel very strongly about the church's role in hate-mongering on this issue," he said. "As an ordained minister, I take that seriously. I'm here as a friend of the people."
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He should be a politician :)
Well, there ya go. If the Scriptures have been misinterpreted on gays, there must be a few other things, we can re-think, re-imagine (relapse into paganism), etc,etc....
Good point.
Romans 6:23: 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
This is the fact of terrible freedom in rejecting God. These people think they are offering freedom when they twist the Scriptures to their own ends, but they are getting death.
Paul, in the first chapter of Romans, says that evils including sexual perversion is the result of willful apostasy.
Romans 1:28-32: 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. (NASU)
People can spin this if they want but the plain meaning is crystal clear.
Something I once heard on the Flintstones: confusion begins when in is used for out and out is used for in!
It's really only those who have yoked themselves to humanist, utopian doctrines that see attendance drops.
Not all who attend church are that way. There are good and bad elements in all groups of people.
People Respecting Our Unique Differences
P-R-O-U-D?
Anytime a meeting has to proclaim itself as PROUD - buy stock in K-Y jelly.
If you have to beg for RESPECT - you ain't got it!
I suggest Gorman find himself another career.
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may lie with the opposite sex
3 But of the humans of our own sex in the midst of the garden, God hath said, we shall not lie with, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the female was pleasant to the eyes, and to be desired to make one wise, ....
Many years ago (I think mid-70s) my father, then an Episcopal minister, remarked that there were only two good Episcopal seminaries left.
I think you've got it. I'm sure you'll go the head of this guy's class - assuming you'd want to get that close to him...
This only goes to prove that one can even have their dog ordained a minister. He seems to have deliberately skipped a large amount of scripture and hopes everyone else is ignorant of that fact.
God clearly calls homosexuality not only a sin, but added that it is an abomination. "When we confess our sins, God is faithful and just to forgive us. If we say we sin not, we call God a liar and He is not in us. Yes, heterosexuals sin, that sin will land them outside of God's kingdom just as fast as homosexuality will. The difference being heterosexuals admit this, homosexuals deny this.
There is a difference between regular sinners and the homosexual sinner and is a symptom regarding their actions. The bible says that the act of homosexuality brings a recompense into their own bodies, that being a seared off conscience. Seared off as with a hot iron.
They become deviant in their thinking, and that is evidenced in their inability to admit their sin offends God, who after all determines what sin is. Man is not able to label an action a sin, other than the most obvious ones. God regards sin as that which causes harm to oneself or others, or separates the person from God and God's plan for man.
Homosexuals reject God's plan for man and have deviated from His plan, this is the abomination. The same abomination as Satan commits, who also rejected God's plan for the angels of heaven. Jude, verse one and on details the actions of these types in the Church, and declares that they are pre-ordained for this condemnation. So while this wolf in sheeps clothing may call himself an "ordained" minister, he is ordained alright, just not the way he supposes he is.
Homosexual Advocacy in the Church: Perspective from a Fifth-Generation Episcopalian
So now 'loving and caring' are the new humanist measures of 'family.' But since homosexual sodomy is a form of murder in that it destroys both the soul and the body, where is the 'love' in murder? Where is the 'caring' in suicide?
What I would respond to this good reverend is to ask him in what TRADITION within Christianity he intends to live; in what TRADITION within Christianity he intends to interpret Scripture. And then he needs to explain his choice very very carefully and fully. He needs to explain exactly in what thread of Tradition he sees himself. My guess is that he cannot do that; he cannot explain his own intellectual tradition within Christianity; he cannot explain the rationale by which he views the Bible this way and not any other way. This is a man who, unbeknownst to even himself, has fallen into the well of contemporary culture and believes that he is living in God's Green Earth. He believes his perspective is as logical and as plain as can be, but he does not see that he is occupying a position within a well-established intellectual tradition that goes back at least to 17th century France. He is like a man wearing thick eye shades who believes that it's just dark outside.
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