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Camille Speaks!: Camille Paglia on Rush Limbaugh
Salon ^ | October 29, 2003 | Kerry Lauerman

Posted on 10/30/2003 9:44:33 AM PST by billorites

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To: KarlInOhio
The first line was posed by the author and then slapped around by Camile.

I wasn't really referring to the question, but to the twelve paragraphs that follow of Camille obsessing, yet again, about the importance of being Madonna and her true place in the greater scheme of things.

It's a bit difficult to take this sort of stuff seriously.

41 posted on 10/30/2003 10:42:08 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: KarlInOhio; Howlin
There's a vaguely feminist/liberal side to Camille and an Italian Catholic side. A lot of women can't stand that "let's hate men" crap of the left-wing feminists. Whatever explains Camille's sexuality, she departs from the traditional feminazi/lesbo gestapo with whimsical irony and satire. It's too much for many of them to take. For one thing...they have no sense of humor. A little like Rush's candor about feminism being largely the preoccupation of ugly women. We could use a little more frank honesty, candor, irony, and satire among conservatives. But libs will always try to spin this as "hate" speech, demonizing the messengers.

Buckley was considered rather irreverent when he first appeared on the scene. Accused of the routine liberal jive of being a fascist, racist, and Nazi, etc. What liberals can't tolerate is real debate and diversity of opinion. They are cultural and ideological dictators. If you disagree, you are "evil" or a "racist." They slander their opponents and go wild with the Hitler allusions. Nixon was "Hitlerian" for liberals. Reagan was. And so on and so on. They love to fantasize about themselves as always running against Hitler and the Nazis. They want to slaughter the unborn and then complain about the "mean-spirited" lack of civility in political discourse when their boy is outed as a "rapist." People who think it's fine to slam scissors into an infant's brain have a lot of nerve complaining about "mean-spirited" anything... What weirdos!

42 posted on 10/30/2003 10:43:29 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Puppage
I ignore her hypertext like spam for penis extenders.

Hey Pup, what do you think of that line? If that's original, then it's definitely a keeper.

43 posted on 10/30/2003 10:47:22 AM PST by neverdem (Say a prayer for New York both for it's lefty statism and the probability the city will be hit again)
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To: billorites
with the comment that the program will even help non-addicted people, he just opened up a whole new profit source for these companies.
44 posted on 10/30/2003 10:49:44 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: billorites
My favorite part of the article:

Of course the newsmagazines never honestly covered Rush Limbaugh as a major force in American media and politics since the early '90s, but Newsweek finally put him on the cover for his drug scandal. That's fine -- it's breaking news -- but then shouldn't they have interviewed some longtime Rush fans who know the show? But who do they call? Maureen Dowd -- that catty, third-rate, wannabe sorority queen. She's such an empty vessel. One pleasure of reading the New York Times online is that I never have to see anything written by Maureen Dowd! I ignore her hypertext like spam for penis extenders.

45 posted on 10/30/2003 10:50:09 AM PST by Eva
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To: Howlin
Go to Lewrockwell.com. Beware, it's a Libertarian site, and that's akin to Satanism among many on FR. (And I read it every day...nyah nyah...)
46 posted on 10/30/2003 11:16:13 AM PST by warchild9
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To: neverdem
LOL. I'll say.
47 posted on 10/30/2003 11:37:18 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: xsmommy; Las Vegas Dave
Of course the newsmagazines never honestly covered Rush Limbaugh as a major force in American media and politics since the early '90s, but Newsweek finally put him on the cover for his drug scandal. That's fine -- it's breaking news -- but then shouldn't they have interviewed some longtime Rush fans who know the show? But who do they call? Maureen Dowd -- that catty, third-rate, wannabe sorority queen. She's such an empty vessel. One pleasure of reading the New York Times online is that I never have to see anything written by Maureen Dowd! I ignore her hypertext like spam for penis extenders.

Camille's alright in my book. Her take on the Dowdy one is priceless.

48 posted on 10/30/2003 11:39:16 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Our only goal will be the western shore)
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To: billorites
It began with the flap over his remarks about our Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb being "overrated" because he's black --

That was not a remark by RUSH, it's what these people who didn't liwtened "think" he said.

BTW, McNabb sucks.

49 posted on 10/30/2003 11:40:52 AM PST by 1Old Pro (ESPN now has 4 little wimpy sissies left. I'm switching back to FOX.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Such a mine of wealth from a mind we admire.
50 posted on 10/30/2003 11:43:22 AM PST by BobbyK (The Truth Is Out There.)
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To: Puppage
RELAX!!! This guy is a friend of Rush, and a friend in need is a friend indeed.
51 posted on 10/30/2003 11:52:04 AM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: Howlin
Yes, I did. Even if you dont agree with some of her views (I dont agree with her on her on Iraq, but on society/celebs/politicans she is SPOT ON.) Camille is so REFRESHING, she cuts through the B.S. with a sharp knife and doesnt take any prisoners. Awesome.
52 posted on 10/30/2003 11:54:18 AM PST by FeliciaCat
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To: ampat
Racist, maybe; Funny, yes.
53 posted on 10/30/2003 11:54:27 AM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
No it doesn't. Rockwell had it linked this morning. Very funny and good article here
54 posted on 10/30/2003 11:58:36 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Interesting Times
So Paglia has reconsidered her entire opinion of Hillary Clinton because... she hired a competent ghost-writer?

There you have it. Notice she liked Hillary, then she hated Hillary, now she likes her again. Not based on any substantive content of Hillary's positions, but based on....what? The nuances of Hillary's public persona? Come on. This is not serious thinking. It's People magazine, in polysyllables.

And that is why Paglia is fun to read but you don't take her too seriously, because she can say exactly the opposite thing next year.

She really is a bright, articulate, honest person, who is well-educated, but who lacks an intellectual center.

She could vote for Jesus today and Stalin tomorrow, and justify both votes in a 10,000 word essay.

55 posted on 10/30/2003 12:01:51 PM PST by Taliesan
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To: billorites
Thanks for posting this.
56 posted on 10/30/2003 12:30:42 PM PST by Burn24
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To: Taliesan
People magazine, in polysyllables

Nice phrase. Another example: Paglia likes Condi Rice because she looks like an eagle. It is unsettling to hear her talk like that, though we would never deny that persona is important in a politician.

I haven't read all the source material, but off the top of my head I think she detested Hillary as victim/first lady and thought Rush nailed that one. I think she digs Hill as a female Presidential candidate. Different context.

On issues in her area of expertise, I take her as substance-based and consistent.

57 posted on 10/30/2003 12:45:00 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Tank-FL
I just hope RUSH just hurries and comes back. I sure do miss him.

Rush's brother said today he's at the half-way point. I can't wait to hear what he has to say, either. His ratings are going to be through the roof. I'd bet he will inspire many thousands to kick their drug or alcohol problems.

58 posted on 10/30/2003 12:45:24 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: RobbyS
RELAX!!! This guy is a friend of Rush, and a friend in need is a friend indeed.

Camille's a chick, yo.
59 posted on 10/30/2003 12:50:44 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
"Guy" fits, too, you know. I think she swings both ways.
60 posted on 10/30/2003 1:43:57 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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