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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) October 30-31, 2003
Various | October 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 10/30/2003 10:27:17 AM PST by sweetliberty

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To: Aliska
It breaks my heart that the Schindler's have had to tread so carefully, had to live under such a fear, terror, really, because MS frequently DENIED them the right to visit Terri as a punishment when he was angered by them.

That is living in pure hell. For many LONG years. Knowing that there is perhaps good evidence, overlooked by that HORRENDOUS judge, that MS, himself, caused terri's injury.

MS can see her, call her any name in the book, deny her even basic care, put up a do not recessutate (sp?) order, be with her alone, at any time, and they have no power, are at the complete whim of Michael.

the hell this monster has put terri thru during the last ten years is a TESTAMENT to just how MUCH Terri wants to LIVE! And a TESTAMENT to the determination of these parents to save their daughter--they LOVE her JUST as SHE IS.

Even if MS and his vampire of an attorney cannot stand imperfection.

41 posted on 10/30/2003 11:44:55 AM PST by Republic
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To: lady lawyer
I thought it went to a jury.

It's my understanding that it did and I think that it is borne out by court documents on the net, assuming they are legit. The only way I could be 100% certain is if I got the records from the courthouse myself, and I am not going to do that.

42 posted on 10/30/2003 11:45:14 AM PST by Aliska
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To: FR_addict; dandelion; cyn; floriduh voter; dixiegrrl; Ethan_Allen; atruelady; lonevoice; ...
http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/wolfson.htm
Santos lost the suit due to language in Wolfson's insurance( you ought to read...would be good to make sure your policy is worded this way 8^0) even though witnesses agreed with her account (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong...)

Hillsbourough County public records....check them please while they're still here (not feeling well here and need to get off)
http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/pls/oridev/off_rec_pack.sbp

http://publicrecord.hillsclerk.com/pls/oridev/off_rec_pack.sbp

http://www.jud6.org/GeneralInfo/AboutTheCircuit/AOC/Newsletters/circuitsspring2001.pdf
page 11..guardian must submit to criminal and credit background checks

guardians are required to file annual reports

the Court will conduct random comprehensive
field audits of a finite number of
guardianships each year to insure the
guardians are acting appropriately and reporting
their activities to the Court accurately.
the Court’s supervision,

Judge Demers profile pg 12

I stopped on page 13, there are some links on law resources which might help provide info to things we haven't yet found....

These are the windows i've had working, have to get off now for a while.

thanks
43 posted on 10/30/2003 11:46:06 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Admin Moderator; jimrob
<3 !

44 posted on 10/30/2003 11:48:08 AM PST by Republic
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To: Republic
I may well have heard that little detail in a Pat Anderson interview. Don't blame her, she's doing a great job but the judge always rules against her.
45 posted on 10/30/2003 11:53:49 AM PST by T'wit (Depart from me, ye cursed, into the everlasting fire... For I was thirsty and ye gave me no drink)
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To: sweetliberty
For Donations to support
American Center for Law and Justice
P.O. Box 64429
Virginia Beach, VA 23467
Phone: (757) 226-2489
Fax: (757) 226-2836

46 posted on 10/30/2003 11:54:14 AM PST by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6
Thanks for the info!
47 posted on 10/30/2003 11:55:33 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: T'wit
I hear ya! You must know that I think she is terrific! I need to pray for this woman...who I know has a heart and an intelligence to, in the end of the end, win this most serious of battles.

T'wit--if I had a magic wand, I would wave it and direct Pat to this thread, everysingle day, when she returns home, for the information, support, new ways of looking at old material and friendship. That,in fact, is going to be a part of my prayer.

This is as important a task as anything, imho, accomplished in our years on FR. The implications are tremendous!

48 posted on 10/30/2003 12:02:31 PM PST by Republic
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To: T'wit
Don't blame her, she's doing a great job but the judge always rules against her.

Maybe she's all they can afford, and maybe she is representing them pro bono, but I think they need a more powerful lawyer and spokesperson on their team. There are still many things that could be done on the family's behalf given the resourses and professional expertise. There is too much here for one lone female lawyer who appears to not be in the best of health.

49 posted on 10/30/2003 12:03:13 PM PST by Aliska
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To: lady lawyer; Aliska
This is an excerpt from the last thread link I posted here (post #38):

"Doctors for the Schindlers have testified that those bruises were consistent with manual strangulation. Furthermore, skull x-rays and head CT scans done about a year after her injury indicated fractures to the occipital region which have never been explained. These fractures are consistent with trauma to the head."

Of course, it still doesn't explain why someone hasn't looked into this before now. I guess maybe the courts are too busy trying to overturn elections to worry a great deal about whether one "insignificant" woman lives or dies.

50 posted on 10/30/2003 12:05:38 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
ACLJ GETTING INVOLVED ON TERRI'S BEHALF!

ACLJ - I should send them some money. Yahoo! Jay Sekulow, right?

51 posted on 10/30/2003 12:11:42 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: tutstar
ok, will check later.

Chris Ferrara's legal brief -- via http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:JA2mdJxCPkgJ:catholiccitizens.org/newsletter/+Chris+Ferrara+legal+brief+&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

>> BINGO >> http://catholiccitizens.org/content/img/f9306/ferrara%20doc.pdf
52 posted on 10/30/2003 12:12:04 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Of course, it still doesn't explain why someone hasn't looked into this before now.

The only thing I've read is that Greer said it was irrelevant.

What would be motives for having the medical records sealed?

53 posted on 10/30/2003 12:12:43 PM PST by Aliska
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To: sweetliberty
Please add me! Thanks!
54 posted on 10/30/2003 12:13:52 PM PST by MelBelle
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To: Republic
second this motion/vote AY!. I've told a lot of people who want Terri info about FR.
55 posted on 10/30/2003 12:14:24 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Been gone a couple of days...just getting caught up. What's this about the thread being pulled? We really need a place where we can get up to speed on everything. Not everyone is on the computer 24/7.
Gonna' have coffee now & check out the other threads.
Deb
56 posted on 10/30/2003 12:16:35 PM PST by kodani69
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To: lady lawyer; Aliska
"Judge Greer dismissed these allegations with a wave of his judicial wand, saying that "it would be interesting to know what happened," but that it was "irrelevant to this case." Judge Greer disregarded Jackie's and Bobby's testimony, saying that it was hearsay. That ruling will prove to be interesting in light of the judge's ruling regarding other secondhand testimony in this case."

I find this statement significant as well (this in response to corroborating testimony from Terri's best friend and from her brother relating to the knowledge of Terri having been being abused by Michael).

57 posted on 10/30/2003 12:19:37 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
HINO (husband in name only) - FINALLY, there is one really funny thing about all of this. LOL!
58 posted on 10/30/2003 12:21:33 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: sweetliberty
Can you please add these two links? Thanks!

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - Schindlers Respond to Michael Schiavo's Larry King Love-Fest - PART1

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - Schindlers Respond to Michael Schiavo's Larry King Love-Fest - PART 2

59 posted on 10/30/2003 12:21:51 PM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: Saundra Duffy; texasbluebell
Right. Apparently he was on Harball last night too. I believe it was texasbluebell who posted that he was very convincing and seems to have brought Chris Matthews around to Terri's side.
60 posted on 10/30/2003 12:22:00 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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