Immigrants From The Other Side (Clovis Is Solutrean?)

CSFA ^ | 11-3-2003 | Dennis Sanford

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[blam]

"I would bet that the numbers for the depthe of the Pacific seabed should be adjusted upward to correct for the uplift on the edge of the Pacific Plate (there are credible estimates that the Santa Cruz Mountains would be twice as high as Everest but for the rate of erosion), so perhaps your 450 ft estimate isn't far off."

Dr Stephen Oppenheimer, in his book Eden In The East explains how most of these depths based on coral reefs are incorrect.

[Carry_Okie]

Are you prepared to discuss the mechanisms whereby these errors arise, or are the mechanics subject to too many temporal and spatial differences to make such a description appropriate to this forum?

[blam]

"Are you prepared to discuss the mechanisms whereby these errors arise?"

No. Basically he explains about the weight of the ice and the resultant 'shifting' that occured.

[Carry_Okie]

Basically he explains about the weight of the ice and the resultant 'shifting' that occured.

Imo, glacial uplift is not enough to explain what we're seeing here. The Coast Ranges have been continuously forcing upward a lot longer than that.

Amazing how little we know.

[SunkenCiv]

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The Solutrean Connection Question
by Cyclone Covey

European resemblance of projectile points found in the Delaware Valley near Trenton led C.C. Abbott to propound a European connection across the Atlantic 1877. W.H. Holmes, although rejecting Abbott’s American Paleolithic, included European in his 1912 multiple waves theory to account for numerous shared cultural traits. N.C. Nelson, curator of Prehistoric Archaeology at the American Museum of Natural History, first specifically linked Solutrean to Paleo-Indians, 1919. By spring 1937, when Folsom points had grown well known and Clovis points discovered but called “Folsom-like,” Nelson pondered their possible Solutrean linkage—from Mongolia. Étienne Bernardeau Renaud, U. Denver, revived specific comparison of Folsom to Solutrean points 1931, elaborated in his native French 1933 for the Paris Revue Anthropologique, and reiterated in English 1934.

Frank Hibben, excavating (1936-40) 19 whole or broken Sandia points 2.4"- 3.3" long associated with extinct mammoth, mastodon, camel, bison, and horse in the celebrated cave NE of Albuquerque, immediately recognized their closer-than-Folsom resemblance to Solutrean points in the collection of Grant MacCurdy published 1932 & 37 but could not “bridge Asiatic gaps of awe-inspiring magnitude,” conceiving European influence but not across the Atlantic. John Witthoft 1952 saw chert fluted points excavated from 11 hunting camps of immigrants from western-New York dotting the 20-acre Shoop Site in eastern Pennsylvania as extending Old World Upper Paleolithic blade industry. He had in mind pre-Solutrean Aurignacian models. Greenman realized (1960, 1962, 1963) Atlantic crossings would have been more feasible before the glacier melted, making a continuous edge for skin boats or dugouts to skirt. Besides points, he found Solutrean-type Beothuk boats and Upper Paleolithic designs in drawings by the last Beothuk, Shanawdithit, at St. John’s, Newfoundland.

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[Citizen Tom Paine]

For openers on the rising and sinking of the continents, I recommend a good physical geology textbook and read about isostasy.

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[arthurus]

All of these writers keep referring to the earlier-than-Clovis possibilities as “the first” immigrants. Chances are whoever they were they were not the first. They were merely earlier and that is all anyone knows about that.

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Iberia, Not Siberia

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