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Couple Loses Hundreds Of Pounds On Atkins Diet
wlky ^ | 11-04-03

Posted on 11/04/2003 9:00:21 AM PST by wheelgunguru

Embarrassment, Health Issues Prompted Dieting

Many people have struggled to drop a few pounds, but what happens when you need to lose several hundred pounds?

Several years ago, Steve and Melissa Horstman of Boone County, Ky., decided that they didn't want to live with their weight problems anymore, and they used the emotional pain over being overweight to reach their goals.

Melissa and Steve met on the Internet several years ago and soon learned of their common bond: obesity.

"When you weigh 150 pounds over, you don't go out and socialize," Melissa said.

The couple met, dated and married, but humiliation struck again on their honeymoon when the airline pilot told Steve he would have to buy two seats next time because he was too big for one.

"It wasn't until after we got married that I saw on a daily basis how his weight was on his health," Melissa said. "I was afraid I'd just found him and we were just married, I was going to lose him."

Steve's weight topped out at 571 pounds. He recalls "just standing there in the winter and you're breaking a sweat just standing there because your back hurts and your knees hurt."

Despite the physical pain, Steve said the emotional toll on his health was greater.

"(It hurts) when you walk into a store and a 3-year-old looks up at their parent and says, 'Look at that fat man, Mommy,'" he said.

"It broke my heart every day," Melissa said. "I could see the people behind him. The looks, the whispers, the pointing."

Fad diets failed. Surgery was too expensive. So Melissa began looking into low-carb solutions like the Atkins diet.

Once the couple decided to try to the diet, major life changes were in order. First on the list: Eliminating the junk food that is tough to avoid for most people and irresistible to a 571-pound man.

"I could go to a certain drive-through and get eight sandwiches and four large fries, 10 to 12 cans of soft drinks a day, not the sugar-free kind," Steve said.

Steve weighed himself daily on a large scale in a local drugstore. The scale provided a printout, and Steve saved every one of them.

"At June 19, 1999, I was at 472 pounds," he said as he flipped through the printouts. "I'd lost about 100 pounds at that point."

Melissa dropped her weight, too, but for Steve, the diet was nothing short of a miracle. He was swimming in his size 6x shirts, and his 72-inch waist pants started falling off his waist.

Steve kept the belt he wore at his highest weight and punched new holes in it as he dropped the pounds.

These days, the couple is happy to simply blend in when they go to the mall.

From the time the couple changed their lifestyle, Steve has lost more than 320 pounds, and Melissa is down more than 100 pounds. They're proud of each other, and their confidence is at an all-time high.

"I always kid with her, 'How did that guy get that hot girl?'" Steve said.

"To go from people pointing and making faces and whispering to being hateful, to being mistaken for Howie Long ... He's extremely hot!" Melissa said of her husband.

Steve said he can't imagine going back to the overweight version of himself, and he's working to lose even more. His current weight is about 250 pounds, and he told Cooney it feels like "walking on air" when compared to his old weight.

"It's a terrifying thought," he said. "Just looking in the mirror and seeing the old me is motivation enough."

Redemption for Melissa comes in many forms, including a recent high school reunion.

"Nobody recognized me," she said with a smile.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: atkins; atkinsdiet; carbohydrates; caveman; cholesterol; herewegoagain; locarb; paleothin; propereating; sugar; triglycerides
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In as much as dieting is a lifestyle change, which necessitates following the diet for the rest of one's life, and inasmuch as serious health issues have developed from this "diet", I wish them the best of luck.
1 posted on 11/04/2003 9:00:23 AM PST by wheelgunguru
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To: wheelgunguru
I haven't seen any conclusive evidence that a low-carb diet has produced serious health issues. Can you provide a link to back up that assertion? In fact, I recall just this year a couple of studies reported on the benefits of low-carb dieting.

NFP

2 posted on 11/04/2003 9:04:14 AM PST by Notforprophet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who can read binary and those who can't.)
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To: carlo3b
Thought you would find this interesting ...
3 posted on 11/04/2003 9:06:59 AM PST by manna
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To: Notforprophet
I been low carbing for a couple of weeks now. Less than 20 grams a day. I've dropped a total of 2 lbs. My body freakin' insists on being 177-179 lbs, not matter what I do these days. I am off to the gym now.
4 posted on 11/04/2003 9:07:28 AM PST by Huck
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To: wheelgunguru
My hat's off to the pair of them. Losing weight is a b*stard to do.
5 posted on 11/04/2003 9:09:16 AM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: Huck
My body freakin' insists on being 177-179 lbs, not matter what I do these days

How tall are you?

6 posted on 11/04/2003 9:09:39 AM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: wheelgunguru
In as much as dieting is a lifestyle change, which necessitates following the diet for the rest of one's life, and inasmuch as serious health issues have developed from this "diet", I wish them the best of luck.

Yes, Yes, Such as?, and so do I.

7 posted on 11/04/2003 9:12:12 AM PST by dread78645 (Hating Libertarians doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: wheelgunguru
"I could go to a certain drive-through and get eight sandwiches and four large fries, 10 to 12 cans of soft drinks a day, not the sugar-free kind," Steve said.

HOW in the world did this guy get to weigh 500 billion pounds???

8 posted on 11/04/2003 9:13:47 AM PST by Benrand
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To: BrooklynGOP
5' 10, 42" chest, 34" waist. Trying to get down towards 170, 32" waist. The 7 5/8 hat size I can live with :-) Just trying to get in tip top shape.
9 posted on 11/04/2003 9:17:29 AM PST by Huck
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To: BrooklynGOP
I am 5'11', and have lost 25lbs since Sept. 1. It has been easy and I feel great.
10 posted on 11/04/2003 9:17:35 AM PST by ALASKA (That's my own personal, correct, opinion and I'm sticking with it!)
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To: wheelgunguru
In as much as dieting is a lifestyle change, which necessitates following the diet for the rest of one's life, and inasmuch as serious health issues have developed from this "diet", I wish them the best of luck.

Riiiiiiiiight. I get your point. Low carbs via meat and fresh vegetables for the rest of your life is more dangerous than being 571 pounds on french fries! hA!

Be advised that those of us who have benefitted from this "lifestyle change" don't need you to ominously "wish us luck."

11 posted on 11/04/2003 9:17:52 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Losing weight is a b*stard to do.

How right you are. Up to this year, my biggest achievement was making it through Marine boot camp. Now I must say that takes second place to losing the 100 pounds I've lost this year. I've been up at 5AM every morning since April and walking at least 7 miles a day - every day. Now as I approach my target weight, the real battle begins - keeping it off!

To help motivate me to keep it off, I throw away (or give away) my clothing every time I drop a waist size. I have already trashed thousands of dollars worth of clothes this year. There is no way I will ever let myself go up in size again.

This is a great story but for this couple, their struggle is only just beginning. Hopefully they can keep themselves motivated for life. It certainly is tough. I was looking at my son's Halloween candy this past weekend with extreme longing. It has been over six months since I tasted chocolate in my mouth. But like the recovering alcoholics say: One day at a time...

12 posted on 11/04/2003 9:18:31 AM PST by SamAdams76 (201.6 (-98.4) Homestretch to 200)
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To: wheelgunguru
I have been on this diet for 3 months now and I have lost 50 pounds and still loosing. Only 10 more now and I have never felt better!!
13 posted on 11/04/2003 9:19:30 AM PST by blondatheart (No More Tears.....)
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To: SamAdams76
100lbs! Congratulations!
14 posted on 11/04/2003 9:24:28 AM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: wheelgunguru
What serious health issues?
15 posted on 11/04/2003 9:26:58 AM PST by MontanaBeth (Democrats-the how low can you go party-they won't let a little thing like hell stop them.)
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To: Huck
Try the South Beach Diet. You get carbs, but they are good carbs, and you're not eating as much saturated fat as you do on Atkins.


I'm on week two of Phase I, and I've lost weight.
16 posted on 11/04/2003 9:28:28 AM PST by sissyjane
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To: SamAdams76
To help motivate me to keep it off, I throw away (or give away) my clothing every time I drop a waist size. I have already trashed thousands of dollars worth of clothes this year. There is no way I will ever let myself go up in size again.

Congrats, and I wish you lots of luck, but unfortunately, the old pants come in handy sometimes. What motivates me to lose the few extra pounds is having to pull a pair of pants out of retirement. I am glad I didn't have to buy em again. I went from 228 to 173 a couple of years ago. As recently as 6 months ago, I went all the way back up to 188, just by rediscovering lots of old bad habits. Now I am holding steady at 177-179, trying like hell to break through to 170. Most recently by low carbing. I believe starchy foods have been the monkey on my back since I was a little boy. Atkins is probably a good strategy for me. I don't mind it at all (except pizza...I want pizza.) But so far, all I have done is consumed a shitload of extra calories and stayed at the same weight.

17 posted on 11/04/2003 9:29:04 AM PST by Huck
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To: wheelgunguru
serious health issues have developed from this "diet",

You are misinformed, and for the benefit of others considering this diet, please look further than this person's opinion, there is PLENTY of evidence that this diet works (see photos above, duh) AND is safe, and is good for you. Of course moderation in everything, but avoiding fats is STUPID (imnsho of COURSE), and avoiding processed, starchy carbohydrates is SMART.

Protein, quality fats, veggies, salad, fruit, water . . .sounds good and healthy to me! :-)

See also, Sugar Busters, and the Zone for more good diets and information. And Garden of Life, for even more, newer information on nutrition and The Maker's Diet!

18 posted on 11/04/2003 9:30:16 AM PST by mamaduck (I follow a New Age Guru . . . from 2000 years ago.)
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To: sissyjane
I glanced at south beach. At first, I wasn't going to go hardcore on any diet, I was just going to reduce carbs "informally." But it turned into a real atkins style approach---very very little carbs, high fat, unlimited calories. Granted I have shed a pound or two, but I need a breakthrough. I work out at the gym almost every day. I think if I could drop 10 pounds, I'd be in perfect condition. Maybe I will check out south beach as an alternative.
19 posted on 11/04/2003 9:32:20 AM PST by Huck
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To: Notforprophet
The docs CLAIM that extended ketosis (a result of a lo-carb diet) is harmful, but most kidney problems that are harmful have ketosis as a side-effect.

In other words, they got taught the gospel of low-fat in med school, and not many See the Light. . . (g)
20 posted on 11/04/2003 9:34:13 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: wheelgunguru; Maven
About 80# down since April, first on Atkins-like, then on Atkins-period.

Feeling vastly better, better energy, sleeping vastly better, losing pain in my back, hips, knees, losing 12 pants-sizes, losing killer headaches, losing intractable tachycardia...

...if these are "serious health issues," more people should have them.

Dan
21 posted on 11/04/2003 9:38:11 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Huck
Try adding a calcium supplement, if you're not already taking one. This sometimes helps kick you off a plateau.
22 posted on 11/04/2003 9:43:12 AM PST by ODC-GIRL ("I would lay down my life for America, but I cannot trifle with my honor." Adm. John Paul Jones)
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To: ODC-GIRL
Thanks for the tip. I am eating lots of cheese already, but I can try a calcium supplement on top of that.
23 posted on 11/04/2003 9:50:36 AM PST by Huck
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To: BibChr
"losing intractable tachycardia... "

Is tachycardia the same thing as atrial fibrillation?

Carolyn

24 posted on 11/04/2003 9:57:37 AM PST by CDHart
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To: wheelgunguru
Lose weight?

1) Exercise. Period. You HAVE to move your body. Lift weights, walk, run, garden...move. There is NO excuse for not doing some form of exercise except physical limitations/handicap.

2) Quit eating refined sugars, processed and packaged foods, hydrogenated oils, margerine (butter is better for you). It's all garbage to your body. Drinking soda everyday is insane. Learn how to read an ingredients label.

3) Bleached flour is not good. Add water and you have glue. Stick with whole grains. And if you eat rice, make it brown instead of white.

4) Eat all the meat (chicken, fish,pork and, yes, Beef) and FRESH vegatables you can get your hands on. Avoid processed meats with nitrates and such.

5) Drink water. At least 64oz a day. Preferably more.
Not Soda, not diet soda, not juice, not Snapple...just water.

6) Exercise. Exercise. Exercise. You HAVE to move. Make the time. If you watch TV you have time. I workout at 9:30 pm or 4:00 am. My kids and work take up the rest of the day but I alway make time. A benfit from exercising is that you actually have more energy...


Our grandparents didn't need diet plans. They ate fresh un-processed foods and got more exercise.

The obesity rates we see today are a by-product of lousy food choices (fast foods, boxed foods, processed foods), bad eating habits (supersize = superass) and too much sittin' on butts.

This of course is only my humble opinion but, having lost 85lbs by doing all of the above, I speak from experience. So does my wife.


25 posted on 11/04/2003 9:58:30 AM PST by Ribeye (Meet the twins....Pete& Re-Pete Vaquero...)
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To: Huck
I walk(power walk) every day, and south Beach is the only diet I've ever tried that I can handle. I'm not hungry. I get snacks, I get three meals, and I get dessert. Check it out on-line.

Next week I start Phase II, and slowly start adding whole grains and fruit back in.











26 posted on 11/04/2003 9:59:14 AM PST by sissyjane
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To: SamAdams76
"Now as I approach my target weight, the real battle begins - keeping it off!"

Hey, great going! I didn't know you were approaching -100, just that Atkins wasa a big success for you.

Actually, for you, KEEPING it off should be easy. You can eat MORE than you're eating now - just not those pesky carbs. Just keep eating what you eat now, the foods you love. You'll have no problemo. In fact, that's the best part about Atkins - you no longer crave the crap that made you heavy in the first place.

Michael

27 posted on 11/04/2003 9:59:55 AM PST by Wright is right! (Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind.)
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To: wheelgunguru
I've been told more than one that I could instantly loose ~30 lbs. of ugly fat on the Marie Antwanette diet plan...
28 posted on 11/04/2003 10:04:07 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: BibChr
Hey, Dan! Great going! It's great to get a progress report from ya. I remember all the things you said when you went on Atkins - your determination has paid off. And the longer you go, the less of a desire you'll have for all those bad foods that led to your plight in the first place. You must feel fabulous.

Michael

29 posted on 11/04/2003 10:04:18 AM PST by Wright is right! (Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind.)
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To: 70times7
one =once
30 posted on 11/04/2003 10:04:38 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: CDHart
Um... er... I don't know. It's what my doctors have called it since I first noticed it in the '70's. It's where your heart rate can more or less double, and hold; and the longer it holds, the more unpleasant things happen.

There are some physical things you can do to stop it, most of the time -- which in a state of morbid obesity are themselves extremely unpleasant. And which weren't even working for me, towards the last.

Now, my heart's sped up once or twice, and all I've had to do is draw a deep breath and hold it hard for a moment, and it slows right down.

Dan
31 posted on 11/04/2003 10:04:56 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
Feeling vastly better, better energy, sleeping vastly better, losing pain in my back, hips, knees, losing 12 pants-sizes, losing killer headaches, losing intractable tachycardia...

Zounds! 12 pants sizes?

Tip o' the fedora to you.

32 posted on 11/04/2003 10:07:45 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Ribeye
"6) Exercise. Exercise. Exercise. You HAVE to move. Make the time. If you watch TV you have time."

Best fitness device in the world is a big dog. Andi, my Golden Retriever, enjoys vigorous walks - and the only way she can get them is if I TAKE her on them. So we both get at least one good brisk walk every day, sometimes two. Things get slow here in the office, I just wake her up and off we go. It's actually helped my arthritic knee and hip. And Andi LOVES it. There's nothing like the love and companionship you get from a great canine.

Michael

33 posted on 11/04/2003 10:09:27 AM PST by Wright is right! (Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind.)
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To: Wright is right!
Thanks, Mike. Yes, I feel terrific, and thank God for it all the time.

Just went back to a lake up high in the Sierra with my boys; last time there had been pre-Atkins. I was so enjoying being able to hop up, run around, hike, climb, do everything, and just feel great doing it.

I won't lie: pizza smells wonderful, so does bread, and on and on. But in my mind, it's just all connected with being grossly fat, feeling miserable, hating the sight of myself, and not being able to play with my boys.

So I more or less shrug and have a chunk of ham with mayo!

Still a good ways to go; if I feel this much better when I'm nearer my goal, I'll just be unbearable.

(c8

Dan
34 posted on 11/04/2003 10:10:09 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr; CDHart
Tachycardia is not the same thing as atrial fibrillation. As you said, tachycardia is a very rapid heartbeat. Atrial fibrillation is when the atrial chamber of the heart doesn't contract properly, but the muscles in that portion of the heart "twitch" rather than beat in coordination with each other. When that happens, the blood is not actually pumped - there is no effedtive heartbeat.
35 posted on 11/04/2003 10:13:33 AM PST by .38sw
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To: Ribeye
your post is SPOT ON! I couldnt agree more! :)

Look at old family photos (really old - pre 1950/1940) and see how many OBESE people are in them...I have never seen ONE. Quite simply because crap food didnt exist in mass quantities and people exercised more then now (more walking, less sitting in cars, farm work, etc)

36 posted on 11/04/2003 10:15:23 AM PST by FeliciaCat
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To: FeliciaCat
You are so right! My mother has photos from the late 1800's and early 1900's of relatives. There were large families then, and I've seen lots of those photos. NO FAT PEOPLE! They were all (mom's side of the family) tall and slender.
37 posted on 11/04/2003 10:18:26 AM PST by .38sw
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To: wheelgunguru
Steve kept the belt he wore at his highest weight and punched new holes in it as he dropped the pounds.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that did that! I ballooned up in hs and college, almost to 300 lbs. Dropped down to 174 after a few months of serious working out and eating better.

I tried Atkins, but I do not eat salad greens and the induction requires about 2 cups per day.
38 posted on 11/04/2003 10:24:33 AM PST by zx2dragon (I could never again be an angel... Innocence, once lost, can never be regained.)
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To: Huck
re: Granted I have shed a pound or two, but I need a breakthrough. )))

I've been on Atkins maintenance almost a year. It took me a very long time to reach my target weight--and lose about 25 pounds--almost a full year.

One thing I discovered, is that on Atkins you can have prolonged "plateaus" where you don't lose. However, you're not going hungry, and not gaining. Patience.

39 posted on 11/04/2003 10:25:31 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Notforprophet; dread78645; sam_paine; MontanaBeth; mamaduck; BibChr
I haven't seen any conclusive evidence that a low-carb diet has produced serious health issues.

The controversy doesn't deal with low-carbs. Lowering carb intake is obviously a part of dieting.

The Atkins controversy deals with excessive protein intake which produces strain on your renal system.

Plus, any meat-intensive menu is going to raise your cholesterol level significantly.

Losing weight is about lowering calories and increasing exercise. You can lower calories through any combination of foods, not just by lowering carbs.

BTW, my wife is a medical professional who told me the docs, with whom she works, despise the Atkins diet because of the health problems they're seeing.

And a recent news article said that, here in central CA, several hospitals have banned the Atkins diet.

If you want more info, go to Google, and type, "Atkins Diet Dangerous." Also, "Atkins Diet Renal Failure." Again, "Atkins Diet Cholesterol."

The resulting webs sites will give you plenty of info on both sides of the issue.

BTW, my best wishes are sincere, not "ominous."

40 posted on 11/04/2003 10:28:28 AM PST by wheelgunguru
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To: Ribeye
I'll disagree with you.

Glad it worked for you, but you oversimplify, and if someone took you too seriously, he might just never make the change.

In my case, I felt so bad that being told "exercise exercise exercise" would have just meant "forget it forget it forget it."

In my case, I made the eating switch, and purposed to ramp up the physical activity as I could. To my great surprise, that was in fact almost immediately. But it was only as I felt better, thanks to the eating switch.

So I WALKED one of the three flights of stairs up, and all three down, instead of using the elevator, for a week. Then all three. And I parked further away. Then further. And so on.

To tell a grossly obese person that the first thing he has to do is exercise, is to give him one more reason never to think seriously about losing weight.

Dan
41 posted on 11/04/2003 10:29:30 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Huck
I haven't dropped much either - I'm led to understand the caffeine is helping me keep it on. However, I'd rather saw off a leg than give up Diet Coke.
42 posted on 11/04/2003 10:30:53 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: wheelgunguru
I still doubt direct causality. Actual research is going in the other direction.

And once again, if my experience and others' is an indication, give me "dangerous."

Dan
43 posted on 11/04/2003 10:34:28 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: wheelgunguru
Gee, it was my own personal physician who turned me on to locarb.

Went in for my checkup to see my rolypoly gyn turned all lean and buff--so I tried what he had.

Most of the criticisms I've read of the Atkins plan boil down to "post hoc, ergo propter hoc." That means if you shake hands with someone and they drop dead, handshaking is very dangerous...

There has been no establishment of increased renal failure by healthy people doing Atkins. Those with kidney disease should not try Atkins--

There was some discussion that Atkins might cause gall bladder disease, but all overweight people (especially women in the "four f's" category--Fat, Forty, Fair and Fertile) are at increased risk. If you lose weight, also, you are at increased risk of gall bladder disease. So naturally there's a lot of GBD numbers floating around any diet.

Some new studies indicate a possibility that locarb eating (and that means more fat and protein) increases the "good" cholesteral and decreases triglycerides. But we need a good look at that.

There is an epidemic of Type II diabetes in this country--this used to be called Adult Onset diabetes until it became epidemic among children. --Just in the past few years, mind you. Video games get the blame, but I'm betting it's the twinkies.

44 posted on 11/04/2003 10:36:24 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: BibChr; Mamzelle
Like I said, if you check the links, you'll see both sides. But I know that as of today, 11-4-03, the docs with whom my wife works are down on Atkins.

I personally don't have a weight problem, but I do struggle with cholesterol. I went on a lifestyle-change diet for about a year. Then, I got so frustrated with lifetime dieting I concluded that, since none of us is going to get off the planet alive, why bother?

I do sympathize with the "battle of the bulge." I merely stated an observation.

If so many disagree, then that's certainly their prerogative.

45 posted on 11/04/2003 10:42:30 AM PST by wheelgunguru
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To: wheelgunguru; Notforprophet; dread78645; MontanaBeth; mamaduck; BibChr
wheelgunguru......Buzz Off!

You are a condescending nitwit to tell me to do a "google" search to learn about my health decisions.

I have discussed my diet/exercise actions with my doctor as I have returned to my target weight over the past year of a low-carb diet. His advice and his vigilance beats anything your wife overheard at the dentist office hands down! My blood tests show no adverse health effects at all....IN FACT I no longer take Lipitor for cholesterol. And I eat bacon!!! ARrrrrrghh! That should give your wife fits. Ha! Get lost, riteous dude.

46 posted on 11/04/2003 10:42:40 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Mamzelle
Breaking news: everyone who loses weight DIES!!!

Bring me pizza and beer!

< /parody >

Dan
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47 posted on 11/04/2003 10:43:29 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
Michelob Ultra!

Make that extra-thin crust with extra-thick cheese!

48 posted on 11/04/2003 10:46:29 AM PST by Mamzelle
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If you read Ribeye's post, it does advise to stay away from alot of carbs (flour, rice)...I believe his post was just trying to point out the need for commonsense in dieting.

For what its worth, I am a BIG fan of low carb eating.
49 posted on 11/04/2003 10:49:58 AM PST by FeliciaCat
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I just heard that Corona Light is lo carb. You?

Dan
50 posted on 11/04/2003 10:49:58 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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