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WITNESS BIO's Briefing Doc & Exec Summary DISCLOSURE PROJ DVD vers. [ANY FREEPERS KNOW ANY?]
DISCLOSURE PROJECT CONGRESSIONAL BRIEFING DOC & EXEC SUMMARY DVD VIDEO ^ | 2001, 2003 | Steven M Greer, MD

Posted on 11/04/2003 9:37:41 AM PST by Quix

EXCERPTS--SELECTED BIO's OF THE WITNESSES ON THE DVD:

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Lt Col Dwynne Arneson; US Air Force (ret.)

A 26 year veteran of the USAF with an above top secret SCI-TK clearance. He worked as a computer systems analyst for Boeing and was the director of Logistics at Wright Patterson AFB. While at Malstrom AFB in Montana he saw a message that said that a circular UFO was seen hovering near the missile silos and that all of the missiles went off-line so that they could not be launched

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Lt Col Thomas Beardon

A leading conceptualist in alternate energy technologies, electromagnetic bio-effects, unified field theory concepts, and other related areas. He is a retired Lieutenant Colonel of the U.S. Army and holds a Ph.D. and an M.S. in Nuclear Engineering from the Georgia Institute of Technology. He speaks extensively about how it is possible to derive useable energy from the vacuum without violating any currently known laws of physics. He and others have built electromechanical devices which demonstrate this technology [Qx: A current major push of the Disclosure project is to bring such products to market within the next 1-2 years. They seem to be well on their way with no one dying, yet. They have sworn to avoid any big corp take-overs, squelching etc.].

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Mr Harland Bentley U.S. Army (ret.)

Involved in working on classified projects with several Government agencies including NASA and the DOE. He recounts a story of personally witnessing a UFO crash at a NIKE AJAX Missile Facility in Maryland and viewing a group of UFOs on radar take off at a calculated 17,000 mph. He also speaks of a 1967/68 incident where he overheard a conversation between Houston Control and astronauts in flight talk about avoiding a collision with a UFO space craft.

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Lt Colonel Charles Brown US Air Force (ret.)

Col. Brown worked in the Air Force Office of Special investigations. He was assigned to work on Project Grudge where he was responsible for investigating UFOs and came to recognize that on some cases there were no viable conventional explanations. He later came to believe that Bluebook was a deliberate whitewash to the public. He was privy to reports of cases where four independent radars were tracking objects that were traveling 5,000 mph.

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Mr John Callahan FAA Civision Chief (ret.)

For 6 years Mr Callahan was the Division Chief of the Accidents and Investigations Branch of the FAA in Whasington DC. He tells of a 1986 Japanese Airlines [Qx: cargo flight] that was followed by a UFO [Qx: huge--'as big as 3--747's] for 31 minutes [Qx: other sources have said 40 minutes or thereabouts] over the Alaskan skies. The CIA instructed everyone involved that the incident never took place.

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Mr Franklin Carter US Navy (ret.)

Trained as an electronic radar technician in the Navy in the 50's and 60's. He tells of an incident where he witnessed a clear, unambiguous radar contact speeding along at 3,400 mph. There were other radar operators as well who, at various times in 1957 and 1958, also witnessed these unusually fast moving objects. At the time, the fastest human aircraft clocked in at 1,100 mph. In one case an Air Force operator tracked one of these UFOs 300-400 miles out in space.

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Mr Gordon Creighton British Foreign Service Official (Ret.)

Mr Creighton spent many years in the British Foreign Service. He spent 10 years in China and in 1941 saw a disc-shaped silent UFO with a blue-white light on top flying very fast. In 1953 he spent some time with the Military Defense in Whitehall and worked on the floor underneath a department, Air Technical, dealing with UFOs.

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Professor Paul Csysz; Professor of Aeronautical Engineering

A Professor of Aeronautical Engineering at Parks College in St Louis. He spent 8 years in the Air Force at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, and another 30 years working for McDonnell-Douglas in the field of exotic technologies. While at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, he was involved in tracking UFOs over Missouri, Ohio, and Michigan. These UFOs were clocked at speeds around 20,000 MPH as they performed unusual silent maneuvers.

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Neil Daniels; Pilot USAF, United Airlines (ret.)

A pilot with over 30,000 hrs of flight time spanning 59 years. He became a B-17 pilot surviving 29 combat missions. AFter leaving the Air Force he worked for United Airlines for 35 years. In March of 1977 while flying a commercial flight from San Francisco to Boston the plane began to bank while left on autopilot. He looked out the window and noticed a brilliant light as all three compasses began reporting different readings.

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Colonel Ross Dedrickson US Air Force (ret.)

A retired Colonel from the USAF. Back in the 1950's part of his responsibilities included maintaining the inventory of the nuclear weapons stockpile for the AEC and accompanying security teams checking out the weapons. Many reports kept coming in that UFOs were seen at various nuclear storage facilities and some of the manufacturing plants. He has seen them himself many times and was present when the famous UFO fly-over over the Capital occured in July of 1952

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Major George A Filer III; U.S. Air Force (ret.)

An Air Force intelligence officer who not only had an extraordinary encounter with a massive UFO on radar over the United Kingdom, but later, in the 1970s while he was at McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey, found out that an extraterrestrial biological entity had been shot at Fort Dix. The Extraterrestrial fled to adjacent McGuire Air Force Base where it died on the tarmac.

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Lt Frederick Marshall Fox; US Navy (ret.)

A Navy pilot in the 1960's flying attack planes. He had a top-secret clearance and served in Vietnam. He is a retired pilot of 33 years with American Airlines. During one incident in late 1964, while flying an A4 Skyhawk, he says that a darkened saucer shaped object about 30 feet in diameter appeared on his left side. There were many other events over the coarse of his career where he observed saucer shaped and cigar shaped UFOs over military installations.

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Dr Richard Haines NSAS Research Scientist

A NASA research scientist since the mid 1960's. He has worked on the Gemini, Apollo, and Skylab programs as well as several others. Dr Haines has compiled over 3,000 cases of unusual visual and radar sightings of unexplained aerial phenomena. In one case a B52 captain told him that he and his crew had five found spheres appear just off of each wingtip behind their aircraft, above the aircraft, and below and they kept up with the plane at cruise altitude and speed.

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Professor Robert Jacobs; Lt. US Air Force (ret.)

A respected professor at a major US university. In the 1960's he was an Air Force officer in charge of optical instrumentation. In 1964, during the test of an ICBM with a mock warhead, his team caught on film a UFO traveling alongside the missile at 11,000 to 14,000 mph. The UFO proceeded to project four beams of light at the ICBM causing the dummy warhead to tumble harmlessly back to earth [Qx: testimony cites the belief that the beams of light were plama beams].

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Brig. Gen. Steven Loekin Army National Guard Reserve

After entering the military in 1958 he joined the WHite House Army Signaling Agency and served under President Eisenhower, then under President Kennedy with an above Top Secret clearance. He was familiar with Project Blue Book and was shown a piece of metalic debris taken from the Roswell crash. While working under President Eisenhower, he discovered that Eisenhower had a keen interest in UFOs, but that Eisenhower came to realize that he had lost control of the subject [Qx: and that Ike said that it would "not be in the best of hands" i.e. in the corporate bigwig's hands].

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Merle Shane McDow; US Navy--Atlantic Command

Entering the Navy in 1978 he gained a top secret, Special Compartmented Intelligence (SCI) clearance with Zebra Stripes. He was assigned to the Atlantic Operational Support Facility, under the command of Admiral Trane. He was present when a UFO was tracked on radar and visually confirmed by pilots. It moved up and down the Atlantic coast. The Command Center was put on Zebra alert with Admiral Trane giving the order to force down the UFO if possible.

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KEYWORDS: antigravity; coverup; disclosureproject; energy; iraq; oligarchy; secrecy; tinfoil; tinfoilhat; ufo; witnesses; wot; zeropoint
I believe, with so many retired military types amongst us, SOME FREEPERS SHOULD know at least one of the above. It would be great if they would comment on what they know of such witnesses.

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When this DVD video became available at a low half price, I decided to take a look. It's not the most HOLLYWOODY in it's presentation but plenty high enough in technical quality.

I particularly appreciated being able to see the eyes of the speakers and watch them as they narrated their reports. They are quite convincing to me--even with my thousands of hours of face to face interviews with counselees claiming all kinds of things.

It was interesting to note that an unusually high proportion of them--if I had a daughter, I'd rather that she didn't date them--there was a darkness about the eyes of many of them. Others were quite pleasant and bright in their eyes and personalities.

I don't know that any witness had any particularly startling revelations for those who are well read in the area. However, there were tidbits here and there that I hadn't come across before. And, the whole collection--which I haven't totally made it through yet--the whole collection of testimony is impressive. Some of the otherwise disconnected witnesses corroborated each other's stories.

This is but a tiny sampling of the 100 witnesses who's stories have been taped and stored. I'm not clear if the larger group of 400+ witnesses have also stored such records (as I THINK is true) or if some of the larger 400+ group are awaiting congressional immunity so they can have greater hope of holding onto their pensions and lives.

The energy generation product project is evidently well underway. Independent scientific organizations have vetted the product and it is now in the process of being reviewed for manufacturing design factors to gear up for manufacturing. As I recall, it's size is bigger than a breadbox but smaller than a large piece of luggage and easily held by a normal person.

All involved are extremely intent on protecting the product and getting it into the hands of the common man. They recognize that there are still serious hurdles (in terms of 'the powers that be' who would sabotage it) to overcome before that day. Nevertheless, IMHO, they are amazingly far along toward that goal.

I believe the DVD is worth having for those interested in the subject.

There is a longer SPECIAL CONGRESSIONAL BRIEFING which is 4 hours which I have not gotten yet.

Given the recent UFO threads (I'll post the links below), it seemed helpful and fitting to see if we could find amongst our FREEPERS anyone who knew/knows, worked with any of these witnesses.

Also, the DVD has plenty of interesting stuff to talk about for those interested. I may try and transcribe some sample testimonies and put in this thread in coming weeks.

Happy pondering.

1 posted on 11/04/2003 9:37:44 AM PST by Quix
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; Ghengis; green team 1999; ...
PING LIST

Please inform me if you wish on or off this list.

NEW CRAFT THREAD:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1010876/posts




COYNE INCIDENT THREAD:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1004960/posts




FREEPER SITED UFO NEAR DURANGO COLO THREAD:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1008465/posts




PHYSICS OF ET CIVILIZATIONS ARTICLE THREAD:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013849/posts

2 posted on 11/04/2003 9:45:55 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Ronin
Are you interested in the DISCLOSURE PROJECT?
3 posted on 11/04/2003 9:50:06 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
Yes, they saw this one


4 posted on 11/04/2003 9:52:04 AM PST by DTA
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To: Ogmios; Congressman Billybob; jpl; Not now, Not ever!; FreedomSurge; RightWhale; Arioch7; ...
Are any of you folks interested in the DISCOVERY PROJECT or this type of post? One of you, I know is, and am just using this post to PING you.
5 posted on 11/04/2003 10:14:51 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: DTA
I believe a lot of them would disagree.

And then, there are those who insist that that one has dual propulsion, including anti-grav.
6 posted on 11/04/2003 10:17:10 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
awaiting congressional immunity so they can have greater hope of holding onto their pensions and lives.

I remember reading this. This subject has fascinated me since I was a kid reading about the events at Roswell, then reading further about how the disk was only a "weather balloon".

7 posted on 11/04/2003 10:50:07 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
Ahhhh, yes. The gov explanation that it involved dummies etc. Only the dummies were not used until 6 YEARS after the crash! Idiots.

Insulting idiots at that!

Oh, I forget and haven't checked. Does this mean you'd like on the UFO ping list or are you already there?
8 posted on 11/04/2003 11:16:49 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
I think I'm already on it, but please check, and if I'm not, I would like to be.
9 posted on 11/04/2003 11:34:50 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
SO YOU ARE--But I have it as Janetgreen vs janetgreen.

Does it matter? Did you get the ping for this thread? If you did, I guess it doesn't matter in the first character slot.
10 posted on 11/04/2003 11:51:21 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: janetgreen
Am curious--have you visited the DISCLOSURE PROJECT site or bought/read/heard/viewed any of their docs, books, videos, CD-ROMS?

Any opinions on any such?
11 posted on 11/04/2003 11:52:32 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
I get updates from the Disclosure Project, and I have read Corso's book and Greer's book. I don't believe everything I've read, but I am very interested in the Disclosure Project and hearing what all the witnesses have to say. Fascinating stuff.
12 posted on 11/04/2003 12:13:45 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
I don't believe near everything either.

But the corroborated stuff is at least interesting.

And, I don't believe that all the ET's are benign as Greer is so convinced of.

Thanks,
13 posted on 11/04/2003 12:15:58 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: DTA
I don't doubt that in many cases that's exactly what they saw, but our craft can't make some of the maneuvers UFOs have been reported and recorded making, like 90 degree turns at hundreds of miles per hour.

Conventional explainations cover many, but not all sightings.

14 posted on 11/04/2003 12:16:38 PM PST by Buggman (Jesus Saves--the rest of you take full damage.)
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To: Buggman
For sure!
15 posted on 11/04/2003 12:29:00 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
Add me.
16 posted on 11/04/2003 12:34:00 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: razorback-bert
SURE.

Thanks for asking.

Have you read any of the DISCLOSURE PROJECT STUFF?

Would you care to offer an opinion on any of the above?
17 posted on 11/04/2003 12:55:10 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
ET may be as friendly and cuddly as Shirley MacLaine dreams, but it would be well to remember Pellegrino's fundamental Three Laws of Alien Behavior:

1) Their survival will be more important than our survival.
2) Wimps don't become top dogs.
3) They will assume that the first two laws apply to us.

To expand;

If there is even the slightest possibility that we will threaten their survival, there will be elements of that species who will advocate eliminating the threat -- even if that means eliminating us as a species.

Any species that manages to claw itself to the top of a planetary food chain and develop the technology required for interplanetary space flight is going to be as least as tough, smart and nasty as we are. They may change philosophically, but the potential will most likely remain.

If they encounter another space-capable species, they are going to assume that species is as least as tough, smart and nasty as they are capable of being, and also assume that we may view them as a threat to their survival -- and act accordingly.

18 posted on 11/04/2003 1:58:03 PM PST by Ronin (Qui docet discit!)
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To: Ronin
"If they encounter another space-capable species, they are going to assume that species is as least as tough, smart and nasty as they are capable of being, and also assume that we may view them as a threat to their survival -- and act accordingly."

scary...

19 posted on 11/04/2003 2:06:12 PM PST by truthandjustice1
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To: Quix
Dead men tell no tales

20 posted on 11/04/2003 2:20:54 PM PST by evets (Warning: graphic images.)
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To: Ronin
WITHIN the scope of your analysis, I think you are quite right.

They do SEEM quite doggedly insistent on our keeping atomic weapons out of space--at least to a major degree within certain parameters.

However, I'm skeptical that they view us as more than a 0.000000000000001% risk.

I believe if they viewed us as a significant risk at all, that they would behave very differently toward us.
21 posted on 11/04/2003 3:40:39 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: evets
Except to the forensic specialists?

I do sometimes wonder how may honorable citizens mostly minding their own business or wanting to stand up for what was honorable and right . . . have ended up dead over the decades in this field.
22 posted on 11/04/2003 3:46:06 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: evets
And, a LOT of dead cows have told quite a mysterious tale.

--TOTALLY drained of blood.
--CUTS beyond our medical capabilities (at least in the beginning decades of the phenomena)
--cattle mutilated in the midst of fields with NO tracks other than the cow's tracks into the field remotely near the cow and no sounds of copters heard from people not that far away during the critical hours the event was occurring
--dogs and other animals giving the mutilated animals a wide range of avoidance.
--officials wary to blatantly avoidant regarding the phenomena
23 posted on 11/04/2003 4:31:11 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Alamo-Girl
In case you are interested.

God's health and wholeness to you and yours.

Blessings,
24 posted on 11/04/2003 4:46:29 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
I know several pilots, who have seen unexplained things while flying and a good friend of mine did some research on animal mutilations.

I know little of the DISCLOSURE PROJECT.

25 posted on 11/04/2003 7:43:51 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: All
A FREEPER'S FREEPMAIL with later permission to post it anonymously bold etc. emphasis added by Qx:

Yes, my husband drew me a picture of the UFO once. Basically, it's like an upsidedown pie plate, but I erred when I said it had porthole windows. He reminded me just now that the windows were actually more like oblong, square, radius-cornered airliner windows, of all things! It was near Castle Air Force Base, by Merced (San Joaquine Valley, CA), in 1977.

The time was early evening, dusk, the sun was still out but casting long shadows, and stars were beginning to show. The saucer was about 75 feet in diameter, he guesses. It was rotating, and it was silent, and only about three houses away. He, his 8-year-old son, and a couple of neighbors, saw it.

When the thing disappeared, it took off into the heavens and seemed to become, or meld into, what was a rather bright, distant light in the sky, like a star. Husband says that he and the other guys hung around outside for over an hour, watching the bright light to see what it would do ... and as it didn't move, it became apparent that it was -- just another star.

The dilemma, I think, for him was that he was then faced with two rather tough options. He would either have to convince himself that he had been lied to by his own eyes, and continue believing (like so many on FR!) that such things are impossible and fanciful deceits, or he could believe what his own senses observed, and have to deal with the shocking proposal that normal, trusted ideas of reality are apt sometimes to be false. I'm sure it must have troubled him for some time, but as I didn't know him then, I didn't see it as it happened to him.

Interesting that you would bring God into it. I am a Christian, Presbyterian, though I confess I haven't gone to church very much, though I have read (and continue to browse) the New Testament and parts of the Old Testament and very much believe in Jesus and the grace of our merciful God, and pray that He will forgive me of my many sins, and I thank Him for helping elighten me to see the error of my past ways -- it's such a strange thing to think that if not for Him, I would still be living in a kind of blindness, thinking that certain things were okay, when in fact, they were sins! I am so grateful for being able to see what I didn't before. Have read Revelations a few times, and it hardly makes more sense now than it ever has, other than being very scary.

[QX: THANKFULLY, HIS FEAR NOT IS ROOTED IN HIS LOVE, GRACE, MERCY AND ALL POWERFULNESS--IN PART, HIS POWER TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE WHO LOVE HIM--PSALMS 91, 23 ETC]

When it comes to UFOs and visitors from Elsewhere, both my husband and I have deep fear. Lately (last few years) I've been dreaming of the arrival of UFOs (my husband does, occasionally, too) and in our dreams, most people welcome them with the idea that they are benevolent, while my husband and I and a handful of others are, in these dreams, immediately seeking to flee underground to where the aliens cannot find us, because we somehow understand what the others do not, that these aliens are evil and anti-God. So I found it especially interesting what you posted to FR. Can you elaborate your thinking on it? I myself don't really understand WHY I fear the possible arrival of these things so much. Maybe you can elighten? --

[QX: HAVE responded to that via freepmail--BASICALLY I AGREE THAT MOST UFO RACES I'VE READ OF DON'T STRIKE ME AT ALL BENIGN, MUCH LESS BENEVOLENT. Others hereon have read plenty by me on that score in other UFO threads. If anyone has any particular question I might try to answer, please let me know.

26 posted on 11/04/2003 8:15:09 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: razorback-bert
Can you elaborate any on either score?
27 posted on 11/04/2003 8:16:07 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
Qx, did your freepmail contact ever see this photo? (McMinneville Oregon early 50's)


28 posted on 11/05/2003 12:30:18 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Quix
In June 1942, a c-47's pilots and crew flying a training mission from P-cola to Baimbridge, had a cigar airplane fly along side. The crews of both waved at each other. When pilots filed their report, everyone on the plane was locked down for two days and visited by Army Int and told not to speak of it, as it was a secret airplane. So none of them did for 43 years.
29 posted on 11/05/2003 6:38:51 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: razorback-bert
FASCINATING.

That's one of the earliest if not earliest dates I've read of such.

THANKS.

Any elaborations on their treatment during lockdown?
30 posted on 11/05/2003 8:35:56 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: All
An interesting transcript from COAST TO COAST w Lear

from:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/11/02.html#lear




Art Bell: Let's say the government chose me. They were going to use me as an outlet to release this information. Let's just say they did that and they took me to a briefing. Then what John?

John Lear: They whisk you to Washington, DC, you get limo-ed to this building, beautiful building, you go up into this room. They say, 'Art, you're the guy and if you give us the go ahead, we are gonna release everything we know to the public. If you decide to go ahead, all major networks will be provided with information on all aspects of the cover up and no type of information will be withheld. Because of the deal for immunity for all participants of the cover up provides that nothing, no artifacts, no piece of information be withheld.'

So here's what happened, Art. We'll use some videos and stills. Our first UFO recoveries were in the late '30s. We made a couple in the beginning of the '40s and then came Roswell, which the public found out about. We got 2 live aliens from Roswell. One died shortly there after and one lived till 1956. And we found out so far there are 18 different alien species that we know about monitoring Earth. Some are good and some are hostile, most are indifferent. We found out that we are the experimental product, if you will, of an alien race who we never met and we don't know who they are. All we know is that the Greys are cybernetic organisms, glorified robots if you will, who work here at the behest of their employers monitoring us through abductions. We were never able to find out what the experiment is all about except that we have been externally corrected about 65 times. And they, the aliens, refer to us as "Containers." There's been speculation that the souls our bodies contain is the reason for the experiments. But nothing's been proven or determined.

Since 1938 we've lost over 200 aircraft due to UFO hostilities and thousands of soldiers in all kinds of different actions with aliens. Since that time several hundred thousand civilians have disappeared with no trace. Several thousand of those were eliminated by us because of their chance encounters with the aliens which we could ill afford to have publicized.

A slightly more frightening phenomena known as "human mutilations" have occurred on a regular basis and are similar to "cattle mutilations". In that the human or humans are taken from the street, so to speak, and returned to the same area about 45 minutes to an hour later with their rectums cored out, their genitals removed, eyes removed from their sockets, and completely drained of blood. In all cases it appeared that the mutilation procedures occurred while the persons were still alive and conscious. One of our scientists speculates that apparently the human specimens had to be alive for the samples to be worth anything. Abductions occur on a daily basis throughout the United States to at least 10% of the population.

When we were first made aware this we protested to the little grey being we had held in captivity at the YY-2 facility in Los Alamos, but a deal was struck that in exchange for advanced technology from the aliens we would allow them to abduct a very small number of persons and we would periodically be given a list of those persons abducted. We got something less than the technology we bargained for and found the abductions exceeded by a million fold than what we had naively agreed to.

In 1954, President Eisenhower met with a representative of another alien species at Muroc Test Center, which is now called Edwards Airforce Base. This alien suggested that they could help us get rid of the Greys but Eisenhower turned down their offer because they offered no technology.

At this point it became apparent to all involved that there was no such thing as a God, at least how the public perceives God. Certainly some form of computer recorder stores information and an occasional miracle is displayed by the aliens to influence a religious event. This so unnerved Eisenhower that he had "In God We Trust" put on paper money and coins and put in the Pledge of Allegiance to reaffirm the public belief in God. Shortly after this it was determined in meetings between the US and the Russians that the situation was serious enough that a cold war should be manufactured as a ruse to divert attention of the public away from UFOs towards some other scary threat like the H-bomb. It was also decided to keep the ruse secret from any elected or appointed officials within both the US and Russian governments as it took so long to vet these officials and the ruse was easier to manage if the top people didn't know about it.

In the late 1950's NASA was formed to compartmentalize, containerize, and sanitize information from all space platforms and vehicles. We sold NASA to the public claiming that all information would belong to them but they got very little and even that was highly sanitized.

Our first efforts were to keep the public from learning about Venus. A very similar planet to Earth and it's population is very similar to us just technologically advanced. We have learned a lot from them starting with the Russian Venera 1 and US Mariner 2, we made Venus look like a lead melting, volcanic surface, spewing sulfuric acid into a pressurized atmosphere 90 times that of Earth. And as often the case we over did it and we wondered why nobody asked how a parachute survived a descent into 800-degree air. We set up operations in Pine Gap, Australia to preclude any prying eyes figuring out what we were up to. We regularly eliminated through extreme prejudice anybody who was part of the operation and made the least little tiny threat about disclosure or dissatisfaction with the operation. Any space mission that included Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Mariner, Voyager, Clementine, and all the rest. All data initially came transmitted to Pine Gap then it was relayed to JPL or wherever after sanitizing. We had a little trouble with amateur radio operators but we figured out how they could intercept these signals but we managed to deal with that.

When the Russian threat began to fade we introduced Vietnam which kept the public occupied for over ten years. The cover up and personnel to run the operation began to get bigger and bigger and required more and more money. We were forced to inflate the defense budget, which soon not enough. Then we got into the drug business which was still not enough. We were the ones that looted the savings and loan industry and Wall Street to boot. It is so out of control now most people want immunity and want out. But there is so much secrecy and so many double and triple blinds in place that it's unlikely that this thing can ever be dismantled. And even if you give us the go ahead to spill the beans to the public it's unlikely they will get anything more than "yes, we recovered a flying saucer and yes, there was an occupant" but that's all we're gonna tell ya.

So go ahead and roll the tape for Mr. Bell. What you see here are what human mutilations look like. That one was a male about 27 years old. That one is film of dead aliens being pulled from the wreckage of a craft that crashed in Olancha, California in the '50s. That craft you see over there was over 250ft. in diameter and had to be buried on the spot. That site is in Utah near Dugway Proving Grounds. The object you're looking at now is the as the Kecksburg Acorn which was brought to Wright Patt in the middle '60s. There's Frank Drake trying to force information out of a being tied down to a stretcher. He was supposedly from Tao Ceti.

These pictures you're looking at now are structures on the Moon. That's the tower in Sinus Medii and it's over seven miles tall. And that thing over there is what we call the Colossus of Oguram(sp) in Mare Crisium. We don't know what it does but the machine itself is bigger than Brooklyn, New York. Now those are videos of the domes covering the craters. As you can see, some are in a very advanced state of decay.

These are 5 second slides of the 18 different alien species we are looking at. That one there is the most gruesome looking. The guards at one facility are carefully indoctrinated over several months being shown pictures similar to but not exactly like the alien. Only when he'd been acclimatized, so to speak, of the horrible looking beings are they allowed to stand in security positions. Before these acclimatizations were done, we had two guards die of a heart attack as the aliens came down the hallway unexpectedly.

And this last clip is of the Kennedy assassination. You've heard of the second gunman theory? Well, this is the second camera that recorded exactly what happened and we had 4 gunmen. And the bottom line was that Kennedy had to go. He insisted on releasing what little alien information we had told him about and he was trying to withdraw troops from Vietnam which we were using as a diversion for the public. After Kennedy we never told any President anything. Nixon knew because he was briefed as VP in 1952. That's how we knew where to take Jackie Gleason to Homestead Air Force Base to see the alien bodies we had in storage there.

And that's about it. What say you Art Bell? Do we brief the public? Yay or nay?"

--Special thanks to "Spaceprophet" of Fantastic Forum who provided this transcription.

Here are the web links that John Lear provided in support of his data:

vgl.org

rumormillnews.com

keithlaney.com

lunaranomalies.com

astrosurf.com
31 posted on 11/07/2003 6:36:52 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
Thanks for the ping, Quix. I've been in New York for about a week and just now returned home and am reading this.
32 posted on 11/11/2003 10:40:31 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Glad you're back safe.

VERY GLAD YOU'RE OUT OF NYC these weeks.

Take care, please let me know what you think of the docs!

Blessings,
33 posted on 11/11/2003 12:04:21 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Ronin
ET may be as friendly and cuddly as Shirley MacLaine dreams, but it would be well to remember Pellegrino's fundamental Three Laws of Alien Behavior: 1) Their survival will be more important than our survival. 2) Wimps don't become top dogs. 3) They will assume that the first two laws apply to us.

This is one of the more intelligent threads on FR on the subject of UFOs/EBE's.

Several years ago, I read LtCol. Phillip Corso's book, "The Day after Roswell" with a grain of salt. I knew someone who was on Sen. Thurmond's staff at the time, and he vouched for him. In the last 48 hours, I have been researching the subject, and came across the "Discloure Project" videos, and I must say, it appears to be...compelling. Particularly given astronaut's Gordon Cooper, Dr. Mitchell, and others' comments.

This could be the mystery of the millenium.

34 posted on 01/01/2009 9:37:48 PM PST by l8pilot
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To: Ronin
ET may be as friendly and cuddly as Shirley MacLaine dreams, but it would be well to remember Pellegrino's fundamental Three Laws of Alien Behavior: 1) Their survival will be more important than our survival. 2) Wimps don't become top dogs. 3) They will assume that the first two laws apply to us.

This is one of the more intelligent threads on FR on the subject of UFOs/EBE's.

Several years ago, I read LtCol. Phillip Corso's book, "The Day after Roswell" with a grain of salt. I knew someone who was on Sen. Thurmond's staff at the time, and he vouched for him. In the last 48 hours, I have been researching the subject, and came across the "Discloure Project" videos, and I must say, it appears to be...compelling. Particularly given astronaut's Gordon Cooper, Dr. Mitchell, and others' comments.

This could be the mystery of the millenium.

35 posted on 01/01/2009 9:37:57 PM PST by l8pilot
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To: l8pilot

What caused you to dust off this thread after so long?


36 posted on 01/01/2009 10:15:35 PM PST by Ronin
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