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1 posted on
11/04/2003 7:29:58 PM PST by
KMC1
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To: KMC1
I love the Simpsons and I would have to put them into the Conservative column. Except for that brat Lisa...
Seriously, I have noticed a rather strong feeling against organized religion though. I don't think it's necessarily against Christianity as a whole but several episodes I've seen would make me think that way
2 posted on
11/04/2003 7:34:19 PM PST by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: KMC1
Perhaps they are merely iconoclasts?
To: KMC1
Are the Simpsons Conservative or Liberal?Yes.
9 posted on
11/04/2003 7:58:03 PM PST by
randog
(Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
To: KMC1
But what about Batman? Does the fantasy character adhere to the fantasy libertarian ideology?
To: KMC1
I always thought they leaned conservative but one of the shows; I think it was on one of the Tree House of Horror episodes (Halloween).
It had the aliens leaving and with what sounded like a voice over of Bart saying, "Don't forget to take Ken Starr". I think it was a voice over since it was from a long shot, he definitely said it.
Even though they had an episode that had Homer jumping a shark on a motorcycle, they're still one of the funniest shows on TV. I lost a little respect when they killed off Maude, though.
13 posted on
11/04/2003 8:02:25 PM PST by
Lx
(Wanted badly, PIX software version 5.1 or a 16mb flash card for a 520. Can you say desperate?)
To: KMC1
First of all, it is a cartoon comedy, and it is also fiction.
Aside from that, how a comedy producer/writer/actor handles certain basic american issues does reflect his conservative/liberal/commie views.
In particular, the gun issue.
I saw very similar parallells with how guns were portrayed in The Simpsons, with how it was handled in "All in the FAmily". We all know that the producer, writers, and the actors and actresses on All In The Family were all liberal anti-gun.
Another example of liberal anti gunners was the TV show Bonanaza, where the liberal anti gunner liberal writers and producers and actors(including anti gun Canadian Lorne Greene) refused to let cast members wear gun belts with bullets showing. Look at those old shows, and you will see that none of the Cartrights, or anybody else on the show, had any bullets for their guns.
Therefore, I conclude, that the Simpsons are equally liberal.
Lots of comedies can be funny without attacking basic american institutions/values: Ozzie and Harriet, (Walt)Disney shows and comic books, I Love Lucy, The Andy Griffith Show, etc
To: KMC1
The Simpsons is a great show because nobody is exempt from ridicule. Mayor Quimby is obviously patterned after Teddy Kennedy, and is a frequent target. Religion, and capitalists like Mr. Burns also takes their hits. Because they are an equal opportunity offender, they are in their own way, fair and balanced.
16 posted on
11/04/2003 8:08:32 PM PST by
fhayek
To: KMC1
Homer goes to church and owns guns.
17 posted on
11/04/2003 8:09:14 PM PST by
Tribune7
(It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
To: KMC1
Homer is definitely conservative.
20 posted on
11/04/2003 8:11:13 PM PST by
John Lenin
(I don't believe in miracles, I rely upon them)
To: KMC1
I think the Simpson's lean to the right
I used to be a fan but the show has gotten stale, They should have killed it 5 years ago
28 posted on
11/04/2003 8:23:35 PM PST by
qam1
(Don't Patikify New Jersey)
To: KMC1
A few years ago David Horowitz published a new political spectrum on one of his websites (can't remember where now). It pointed out far right, far left, liberal conservative etc for things like magazines, politicians and so on so that there would be a better appreciation for who and what is where on the political spectrum.
One of the things they did was take characters from the Simpsons and put them on this chart. So that Far Left=Homer's mom, Liberal=Lisa, Moderate=Marge, Conservative=Homer, Far Right=Monty Burns.
30 posted on
11/04/2003 8:26:02 PM PST by
91B
(Golly it's hot.)
To: KMC1
my two cents..the Simpsons are one of the funniest shows to ever air..they have shown some incredible depth concerning religion..during the early 90's Homer decided that he did not want to go to church and just lounge around the house..and the episode showed that it was wrong..and in the end..his house caught on fire and that he was saved by an all volunteer fire squad consisting of a Christian(Flanders), a Jew (Krusty)..and others (Apu..Hindu)..and this is pointed out to him by his minister..something you don't see on prime time tv..however..they did slip a bit when pathetically the flanders were made the guardians of the Simpson kids and found out that they were not baptized..I know there are different producers..but that did not reconcile with the earlier episodes...
To: KMC1
i saw the show where Marge Simpson says "Get back! Honky cat!" ... i howled for minutes
36 posted on
11/04/2003 8:41:44 PM PST by
InvisibleChurch
(Like sittin' on pins and needles, things fall apart, it's scientific.)
To: KMC1
I'm sure most of the writers are liberals and the show is more representative of liberalism than conservatism. But it certainly isn't dogmatic. At the end of the day there's no message that the show consistently delivers that most of us here would find particularly offensive. In fact the show is very pro-family at it's heart, even if it's in a way that most culture warriors would probably find unsatisfying.
To: KMC1
Speaking of cartoons, the Cartoon Network will air the forgotten episode of "Family Guy" on Sunday night @11:30pm
This episode apparently offended so many people that not even FOX would air it!
While I like the Simpsons, nothing ever made me laugh like Family Guy - talk about equal opportunity offenders! I thought that cartoon was brilliant. What other show had a martini drinking dog?!
41 posted on
11/04/2003 8:48:20 PM PST by
FlJoePa
To: KMC1
Simpsons is so intelligently written that, like Dr. Seuss, Pee Wee's Playhouse, MST3K, Dr. Who, Rocky and Bullwinkle, and A Christmas Story, it is capable of being enjoyed by people of all ages.
45 posted on
11/04/2003 9:28:54 PM PST by
giotto
To: KMC1
I'm with you. For fourteen years, the only two episodes I ever caught were one in which Homer was browbeaten by Marge and made to apologize to a belly dancer for -
gasp! - joining her on the floor, thus helping her to make a living; and one that shows Lisa excelling at an all-boys' military academy despite the hoots and jeers of her classmates.
Needless to say, I thought there was some heavy-handed feminism at work, until a friend urged me to give it another shot. At that point, I was introduced to some serious Clinton bashing, and realized how skewed my previous sample had been.
To: KMC1
I'm with you. For fourteen years, the only two episodes I ever caught were one in which Homer was browbeaten by Marge and made to apologize to a belly dancer for -
gasp! - joining her on the floor, thus helping her to make a living; and one that shows Lisa excelling at an all-boys' military academy despite the hoots and jeers of her classmates.
Needless to say, I thought there was some heavy-handed feminism at work, until a friend urged me to give it another shot. At that point, I was introduced to some serious Clinton bashing, and realized how skewed my previous sample had been.
To: KMC1
I'm with you. For fourteen years, the only two episodes I ever caught were one in which Homer was browbeaten by Marge and made to apologize to a belly dancer for -
gasp! - joining her on the floor, thus helping her to make a living; and one that shows Lisa excelling at an all-boys' military academy despite the hoots and jeers of her classmates.
Needless to say, I thought there was some heavy-handed feminism at work, until a friend urged me to give it another shot. At that point, I was introduced to some serious Clinton bashing, and realized how skewed my previous sample had been.
To: KMC1
OOPS! Sorry about the multiple sends. I kept getting error messages, and thought my posts weren't going through.
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