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Anti-Smoking Campaign Is Anti-Freedom
Toogood ^ | 11/9/03 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 11/06/2003 9:47:50 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

I am a smoker. I literally start my workday by lighting up one of the two or three cigars I puff my way through every day. I could quit if I wanted to, but I don´t. I like smoking cigars. My father smoked a pipe for as long as I knew him. My Mother never smoked, but was around his so-called "second-hand smoke" her entire life. She died at age 98. He died at age 93.

I was moved to think about this by an intriguing book by Michael J. McFadden, "Dissecting Antismoker's Brains" ($21.95, Aethna Press, visit www.AntiBrains.com). Its ultimate concern is yet another United Nations´ plan to control everyone´s life; a ban on all tobacco use initiated in 1975 and being pursued by its World Health Organization. Its immediate concern is the way Americans in particular have been lied to and manipulated by a diabolical campaign to deprive us of the choice to smoke or not. This campaign is essentially about taking away a freedom we thought we had.

Two organizations, Action on Smoking and Health (ASH) and Group Against Smoker´s Pollution (GASP) have been around a long time spewing out enough lies about smoking to fill a library or two. McFadden points out their tactic was to make non-smokers feel separated from smokers as "a distinctly important group." The threat smokers were said to represent never existed. Going all the way back to the 1979 Surgeon General´s report, the science then and now demonstrates that "Evidence that tobacco smoke is antigenic in man, however, is meager and controversial…"

A leading epidemiologist, Michael Thun, was quoted in the Washington Post earlier this year saying, "There´s no definitive way of establishing the cause of a cancer in an individual. Are there people that develop lung cancer without exposures (to any of the known cancer-causing agents)? No one knows." While logic suggests that smokers are more likely to develop lung cancer, the fact is, "no one knows" if this is the trigger or whether a genetic or other factor played a role. However, on the basis that smoking automatically leads to lung cancer, the American Lung Association is the third organization, along with ASH and GASP, to work endlessly to restrict the right to smoke anywhere and everywhere.

So, if you eliminate the argument that smoking in the workplace, in restaurants and other public places poses no scientifically verifiable threat to anyone, it is simply astounding to contemplate that, by the middle of 2001, the American Medical Association reported that states were spending more than $880 million on antismoking activities. This is such an appalling waste of money that could be allocated to the real social problems, one would expect some public outrage, but as McFadden points out, we´ve been effectively brainwashed to think that a real health threat exists, smokers are less deserving of their Constitutional rights as others, and that anti-smoking programs are working.

Columnist George Will wrote in May that "tobacco policy radiates contempt for law. Cynical lawmaking produced the $246 billion settlement of an extortionate suit by 46 state governments against major tobacco companies, purportedly as recompense for smoking-related health care costs. Never mind that governments probably profit from smoking in two ways. Cigarettes are the most heavily taxes consumer product, but are not usually not taxed so heavily that too many smokers give up the lucrative (for governments) habit. Furthermore, governments reap savings in the form of reduced spending for Social Security, pensions and nursing home care for persons who die prematurely from smoking-related illnesses." The hypocrisy, if not outright criminality, i.e., extortion, involved in the punitive lawsuits against the tobacco companies, is yet another cause for outrage, but it´s just not there.

Discriminating against smokers has become an acceptable prejudice in America thanks to the way they have been identified as a threat to everyone around them. As McFadden points out though, "If by some chance they (the anti-smoking campaigners) succeeded in eliminating smoking from the face of the earth there would be virtually no time lapse before they sank their fangs into Big Auto, Big Meat, Big Soda, or whatever supposedly idealistic cause was out there that would promise them Big Money and Big Power."

The fact is, there are groups already engaged in activities designed to exploit or destroy these industries and we see this in the work of the "food police" advocates, the "animal rights" propagandists, and the incessant hatred directed against SUVs by environmentalists.

In America, the power to control your life and everyone else´s presumably is based on the "consent of the governed", but the restrictions on smoking were generated primarily from the courts. Legislators went along because it promised a new source of funding for their endless schemes. The problem is that everyone lost and everyone loses when the lifestyle choice to smoke or not is denied.

It is a pure fiction that people are safer in so-called "smoke-free" facilities. The science concerning the amount of measurable compounds to which they are exposed demonstrates it is so infinitesimal as to pose no threat whatever. In 1989, the report of the Surgeon General noted that close to 90% of the weight of tobacco smoke is composed of oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, and plain water. These are natural and necessary components of the environment. Scare campaigns, however, have succeeded in creating fears about smoking that have ultimately deprived everyone of the freedom to smoke anywhere.

Giving up just one freedom is giving up one freedom too many. Everyone pays a price for the loss of any freedom to anyone or any group. That is why, in America, we defend the right of people with whom we disagree to express themselves. You may or may not be a smoker, but you should have a very real concern about the anti-smoking politicians and others who continue to trample on freedom.



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To: 185JHP
Make that (16). Sorry.

Oh, what the heck, have a smoke, it's said to clear the mind.

41 posted on 11/08/2003 9:16:00 AM PST by Great Dane (You can smoke just about everywhere in Denmark.)
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To: Great Dane
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE PRAYERFUL PREVENTIVELY AND IN PREPARATION is helping dark times come along?

I think we construe reality very, VERY differently!
42 posted on 11/08/2003 9:29:12 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Great Dane
Interesting.

Some other smokers seemed to make easy enough sense out of it.

Perhaps you could consider taking personal responsibility for your logic circuits.

LOL
43 posted on 11/08/2003 9:30:58 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I don't smoke. But I'm more concerned about the mind pollution taking place on primte time TV.
44 posted on 11/08/2003 9:40:44 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Quix
You still seem to avoid the INHERENT "IN-YOUR-FACE" attitude, stance, body language, habit features of smoking.

IMO, there are two reasons for that attitude, one of which is really not a reason and the other could be.

One is that smoking has been accepted by society for a very long time and some people have a problem accepting change. I don't consider this as a valid reason for having that type of attitude.

The other reason is that smokers, for the last however many years, have been demonized to the point that many will treat a smoker as a second, or third, class citizen, not entitled to the same rights, liberties, or courtesies as any other citizen.
They are reviled, set upon physically in venues where smoking is allowed, called worse names than some mass murderers, have legislation forced upon them using junk science as a basis for said legislation, and even have television commercials that tell other people they are not normal everyday folk that feel, think, or have thoughts beyond, "Where's the next cigarette coming from".
This, IMO, is a reason for the attitude. It's kind of like, "If I'm going to get the results anyway I might as well play the part."
I'm not saying it's right but I can, at least, understand it.

I DO try my best to avoid the "IN-YOUR-FACE" attitude until, and unless, I am treated to that attitude by someone else.

When a small minority, the true anti-smokers, use junk science to force legislation, smoking bans, on another minority, smmokers, it is a blatant misuse of the legislative system.

45 posted on 11/08/2003 9:47:37 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
The connection between smoking and cancer is not ALL junk science by A VERY LONG SHOT.

Some folks seem to have an immunity to cancer regardless of smoking for 90+ years. But that's certainly not true for the vast majority.

I have some sympathy for your points. But not the junk science allegation.
46 posted on 11/08/2003 9:54:17 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
The connection between smoking and cancer is not ALL junk science by A VERY LONG SHOT.

Correlative but not causitative.

But that wasn't the junk science I was talking about.
The junk science is about ETS causing any medical condition.

47 posted on 11/08/2003 9:58:47 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
Is ETS second hand smoke? Not up on the latest jargon in the field by a long shot.

There are good studies showing significant correlations between second hand smoke and an increase in risk, disease and even early death.
48 posted on 11/08/2003 10:12:32 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
Is ETS second hand smoke? Not up on the latest jargon in the field by a long shot.

Yes, Environmental Tobacco Smoke.

There are good studies showing significant correlations between second hand smoke and an increase in risk, disease and even early death.

Can you point me to those? I have looked, read studies, and read abstracts until I'm crosseyed.
I haven't found one study yet that states an increased risk for anything that holds up to peer review.
The three largest studies done to date found no valid statistical increase in risk, disease, or early death.
One of these studies was done by the World Health Organization, one done by the US government, and one funded by an anti-smoking organization for the first 38 years of the study and then defunded when they found out it wasn't going to give them the results they wanted. It was funded for the last two years of the study by a tobacco company.

Of all the other studies I have seen it's about 20% that find ANY increased statistical risk for ANYTHING and 80% that find no increased statistical risk.

49 posted on 11/08/2003 10:25:58 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
YOU SOUND more up-to-date than I am.

I haven't read that extensively in it for some time. And, I haven't examined the studies THAT exhaustively.

I just have an impression in my mind that the last 2-3 studies I looked at seemed rigorous enough to me.

Hasn't there been a twin's study comparing twins where one partner was reared in a smoker's home and one wasn't?

Sorry, I am not likely to devote the time needed to track down the studies currently. Too many other irons in the fire.
50 posted on 11/08/2003 10:42:59 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Quix
Sorry, I am not likely to devote the time needed to track down the studies currently. Too many other irons in the fire.

Cool
If I can find it I'll post a list of studies and their associated statistical risk.

51 posted on 11/08/2003 10:51:11 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

BEST if you could find a study of the studies.

Thanks.
52 posted on 11/08/2003 11:07:26 AM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: gcruse
#38........ Apology accepted, and thank you.
53 posted on 11/08/2003 11:12:30 AM PST by Great Dane (You can smoke just about everywhere in Denmark.)
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To: 185JHP
That doesn't mean I consider smokers to be devoid of any human value. I just want their olfactory assaults controlled.

But sir, you can't have the whole wide world according to you, insisting on it is selfish.

54 posted on 11/08/2003 11:15:02 AM PST by Great Dane (You can smoke just about everywhere in Denmark.)
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To: Quix
There are good studies showing significant correlations between second hand smoke and an increase in risk, disease and even early death.

There are even more good studies saying, "It aint so."

55 posted on 11/08/2003 11:18:25 AM PST by Great Dane (You can smoke just about everywhere in Denmark.)
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To: supercat
"Generally, the marketplace will ensure that when different people have different contradictory desires in how they are served, different businesses will emerge that serve people differently." But the anti- crowd doesn't believe in the marketplace. They feel they can control others behavior because it "offends" them. My mom smoked Pall Mall NON_FILTERED for more than 30 years, before stopping. She will be 81 in Feb. My dad smoked the stinkiest cheap cigars he could buy (el productos, being his favorites, and believe me, I can still smell them, forty years later). They wanted to smoke, and they decided to quit. Both decisions were their choice. I smoked cigarettes from age 14 through 28. I stopped, more than 25 years ago, because I wanted to quit. I started smoking cigars a few years ago (real stinky EXPENSIVE ones, like macanudo, etc), and enjoy one with a glass of good port wine, or just lounging out by the pool, with a soda. The marketplace allows choice. Unwarranted government control of the marketplace creates artificial barriers to ..." life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." This WAS America, but is quickly becoming ameriKa, because people like you don't like what I do! Sorry, but I suggest you go somewhere else, if you do not want smoke in your eyes! Otherwise, shut up, and pass the ash tray!
56 posted on 11/08/2003 11:28:11 AM PST by pageonetoo (In God I trust, not the g'umt! and certainly not the Dims!)
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To: pageonetoo
My post was not directed at you, but at the party quoted...
57 posted on 11/08/2003 11:30:01 AM PST by pageonetoo (In God I trust, not the g'umt! and certainly not the Dims!)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
The incidence of lung cancer is about 10 times higher in smokers than in non-smokers. Possible this is only a coincidence.

Do I hear a pro-smoker replying to your post?

...chirp...chirp...chirp...

Guess not.

58 posted on 11/08/2003 2:51:25 PM PST by antismoker
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To: Quix
I think it's anti-freedom to insist that I breathe smokers smoke AT ALL. p>I agree. Fortunately no one has ever "insisted" that you do so.

I think it's anti-freedom to require me to give a portion of my hard earned money to support lung cancer and heart failure treatments because of a willfully chosen rebellion against health and common sense./i>/p>

Then you have a beef with bad drivers, fat folks and many others in this society, but not with smokers--the ONLY group that pays their own way and more.

I have also observed that most smokers tend more than a little to hold their cigarettes somewhat akin to folks who enjoy showing their middle finger in a certain posture.

This observation has led me to realize, finally--in my 56th year . . . DUH! . . . that there's more than a little chronic rebellion running around loose in most smokers, if not all.

And you want require me to aid and abet your life destroying, assaultive, addiction against my will?

Of course not. You shouldn't have to do anything against your will. It should be your CHOICE to enter or stay out of places where people who WANT to be there go to smoke and relax. At the owner''s discretion, of course.

And you think that's FREEDOM?

Sure do. I'd like to hear your explanation of how having a choice isn't freedom.

59 posted on 11/08/2003 5:04:08 PM PST by Max McGarrity (Anti-smokers--still the bullies in the playground they always were.)
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To: JennysCool
Well said. Seems to me rebellion is what created this country.
60 posted on 11/08/2003 5:07:39 PM PST by Max McGarrity (Anti-smokers--still the bullies in the playground they always were.)
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