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To: padfoot_lover
Do jumpers usually take their shoes off?

That's what I'm wondering. But would murderers take them off of him first before pushing him?

11 posted on 11/08/2003 10:22:43 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe
The article doesn't inform whether the victim's shoes were recovered elsewhere, either. Strange.
12 posted on 11/08/2003 10:27:01 AM PST by witnesstothefall
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To: Lijahsbubbe
That's what I'm wondering. But would murderers take them off of him first before pushing him?

Perhaps he was relaxing in his office, with his feet up when a stranger entered the office. I hope the investigation isn't tainted by democrat politics. I'm wondering if there's another memo out there describing how to handle this situation.

13 posted on 11/08/2003 10:28:08 AM PST by meyer
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To: Lijahsbubbe
A murderer or group attempting to stage a suicide would do things like take off the shoes. Or tasseled loafers could come off in a struggle while a couple of goons were dragging somebody to the ledge.
17 posted on 11/08/2003 10:32:37 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Lijahsbubbe; padfoot_lover
I've read things like this before:

Q. Why do Japanese people remove their shoes when they commit suicide?
A. The simple answer is that they are copying what they see in "trendy dramas" where suicides are common and shoes are often removed. The origin of the practice probably lies in the same place as the idea of taking off your shoes when you enter a house. Shoes are considered dirty and when one steps up to enter a house one leaves one?s dirty shoes behind. Taking off one?s shoes before one jumps symbolizes leaving the filth and dirt of the material world behind. Removing one?s shoes also serves the practical purpose of showing that your death was not an accident.

24 posted on 11/08/2003 10:35:04 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"But would murderers take them off of him first before pushing him?"

Perhaps not, but if he were alone in his office (or thought he was), he might have had them off anyway. I know I would.

134 posted on 11/08/2003 4:47:29 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Lijahsbubbe; padfoot_lover
Do jumpers usually take their shoes off?

That's what I'm wondering. But would murderers take them off of him first before pushing him?

Could it be someone came by and decided that Kokal didn't need them anymore?

I wonder if his wallet was found on him.

Becki

159 posted on 11/08/2003 9:20:47 PM PST by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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