[JohnHuang2]

Wednesday, November 12, 2003

Quote of the Day by Interesting Times

[nathanbedford]

Well, of course the particular facts of this incident are not really important. I used to think they were, about 40 years ago when I was assigned to write about Engel V Vitale in university. My father smiled patronizingly and I bristled.

Now I know much better. In those days (now almost 2 generations ago) I actually believed there was an objective constitutional reality which one could discern with the application of human reason.

Now, to my sorrow, I know better. As my nice suburban childhood has crumpled into something which my grandmothers would abhor, I know as one who has been to the brink and has looked into hell that we are now in thrall to a secular religion that despises the Christianity of my forbearers. My mother catholic, my father protestant, we never dreamed in the 1950s of the secular forces which were arrayed against us. My parents were building our Levit - towns for us kids after having offered their bodies against the Nazis and the Jap(s)anese.

Does it matter that everything that they believed in is now legally labelled as invidious? Must we accept that there is no more a culture that justifies or condemns bahavior on Christian values?

What is the alternative? Muslim values? What have they brought to the world? Secular values? Check out THE BLACK BOOK OF COMMUNISM. Nice suburban Jewish values? I am not prepared to accept them.

Where am I to go in my own land?

[Non-Sequitur]

Menorahs are secular?????

[MrTed]

I hope they plan to remove any references at the school to the year 2003, or to next year's class of 2004, or last year's class of 2003, or . . . Since the Nativity is considered of no historical significance, any reference to the widely accepted date scheme is no longer acceptable.

[TaxPayer2000]

Luke 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

[paulklenk]

We do know that the shepherds and the magi did not visit on the same day, as depicted in the Nativity. But I guess this really isn't about historical accuracy, is it?

Let's give them an alternative: A Nativity that's missing the magi. Let's see how they deal with that.

[yoe]

America is made up of people who fled other places in this world in order to live without the fear of oppression and the freedom to practice religion, as they believe it. Brooklyn is made up of immigrants, generations of them, many who witnessed the horrors of the Holocaust or have family members who were victims of that profane time; Jewish centers with photographs saying “Never Forget”. Are they forgetting? Was it a mistake to make room in our schools for Muslim children to pray during the day? Or is this insensitive behavior towards Christians just for Christians? It would seem so.

Perhaps the Swastika or the Sickle and Star or other symbols of oppression would be more appropriate in our schools and city squares and on our lawns.

[NYer]

The Jewish and Islamic symbols are allowed, the district says, because they have a secular dimension, but the Christian symbols are "purely religious."

The secular menorah.

The religious nativity.

[Xenalyte]

When did a menorah become a secular symbol?

[HamiltonJay]

bwahahahahahhahahahahaha.... with decisions like that coming out of NYC... one does have to wonder if the radical islam attacks of it being a godless and immoral place aren't true....

[Coleus]

[Salvation]

Discrimination gone amuck here.

[RepubMommy]

Nice to see it's starting already.

[jla]

^

[baseballfanjm]

Remember, it's not Christmas anymore. It's Holiday. And it's not Anno Domini and Before Christ anymore either, but Common Era and Before Common Era. Who cares if the start of the "common era" is still based on Christ's birth? We can't offend risk offending anyone now can we?

[Blue Scourge]

...I'm just sitting here waiting for the day when the govt. says I have to only practice my religion in my house. You laugh...it's coming one day....Come soon oh Lord.