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Remove Dennis Kucinich's Feeding Tube! (Terry Schiavo's Case By Ann Coulter!)
anncoulter.org ^ | 11/13/03 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/13/2003 2:27:19 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat

IN THE CURRENT battle over whether to remove the feeding tube from Florida woman Terri Schiavo, the basic positions are:

The only thing everyone seems to agree on is that the husband is creepy. Terri's parents are fighting like mad to keep Terri alive. The husband, Michael Schiavo, is living with another woman with whom he has one child and is expecting another. Yet he has mounted a monumental crusade to have Terri's feeding tube removed.

Terri is not brain-dead and requires no extraordinary means to be kept alive. She is breathing, her heart is pumping, her organs are functioning. All she needs is food and water. (Of course, all three are technically true of Kate Moss, too.) But her husband wants to starve her to death. As Larry King asked him, why not "walk away"?

That is the eternal mystery of this case. Assuming everything Michael says about Terri is true – she has no consciousness, she will never recover, and she would not want to live with feeding tubes – well, then, she's not in pain, bored, angry or upset. Dennis Kucinich has been in a persistent vegetative state for 20 years – how about not feeding him? Why is Michael Schiavo so obsessed with pulling Terri's feeding tube? Why can't he just walk away?

Michael's answer to Larry King was this: "Why should I, Larry? This is Terri's wish. This is Terri's choice." As King pointed out, Terri's alleged "wish" was not memorialized anywhere in writing, only in Michael's memory. Michael responded to this point by invoking the courts: "It's been decided for six years of litigation that this was Terri's wish."

I note that "six years of litigation" is not enough to end the lives of child-molesting serial killers on death row. The same people who want to kill Terri believe that death-row cases are never final, no matter how many courts and juries have spoken over how many decades.

Moreover, it's not as if court after court has heard testimony on Terri's wishes and have all unanimously agreed that Terri would have chosen death. One lone Florida circuit court judge, George Greer, credited Michael's testimony, finding "clear and convincing" evidence that Terri said she would not want to be kept alive on feeding tubes. Because Judge Greer was acting as the finder of fact, his finding is essentially unreviewable by any other court. Even the notorious Florida Supreme Court – which has a history of jumping in to try to save a dead man – refused to review the case.

Judge Greer's finding on Terri's wishes may be immune from legal review, but it's not immune from criticism. He's a finder of fact – he's not God. A few years ago, Judge Greer found that Helene Ball McGee did not have reasonable cause to believe domestic violence was imminent and denied her an order of protection. Two weeks later, Mrs. McGee was stabbed to death by her husband. So judges can make mistakes.

Judge Greer's pivotal "finding of fact" in the Schiavo case determining a life-or-death issue is based on something Terri allegedly said after watching a TV show. Michael didn't know his wife was bulimic, but he distinctly remembered Terri's remarks about a TV show. (It was an episode of "Melrose Place," during which she said that Heather Locklear's shoes were "to die for.")

After watching "Bambi," I'm against deer hunting. Then I go out the next day and order venison. Maybe we could have a higher standard of proof before the government orders a woman to die.

Despite Michael's insistence that he has a vivid memory of Terri expressing her wishes regarding death, note this exchange on "Larry King Live":

KING: I have a 35-year-old daughter. I've never asked her this question. I don't know if she has a living will. I hope she does. But if she doesn't, I don't know the answer to the question. Because most 35-year-olds, I guess, don't talk about it.

SCHIAVO: Nobody talks about death, Larry.

Michael apparently forgot to add – except for that one night I remember so clearly, Larry, when my wife, Terri, talked to me about death and expressed her firmly held desire not to be kept alive on a feeding tube.

If you start making damning admissions on "Larry King Live" – with your lawyer sitting next to you, no less – you have a problem. Larry King can interview Louis Farrakhan and make him look like a charmer.

As even the New York Times admits, Michael did not recall Terri's clearly stated desire to be taken off life support until after the million-dollar settlement was paid, most of it going for Terri's medical costs – and the remainder to her husband.

What offhand comments might Terri have made if she had read in the Baltimore Sun about Rod Brandner, who indicated that he was coming out of a coma by squeezing his son's hand in response to questions less than two hours before his life support system was to be turned off?

Or what if she had read the Associated Press news story on Chris Trickle, who lost 5 percent of his brain when he was shot in the head, but later came out of a nine-month coma to breathe on his own, eat three meals a day, and tell his girlfriend he loved her?

What would Terri have said after hearing that Gregory Dygas' mother refused to believe the doctors' assurances that Gregory was brain-dead and should be taken off life support, and six months later watched as Gregory sat up, talked and watched television?

What offhand remarks might Terri have made after reading about Terry Wallis, the Canadian man who just last summer awoke from a 19-year coma?

Or how about that case in Minnesota last year where the guy who'd been in a coma for decades suddenly reappeared and ran for Senate? What was his name? Walter Mondale?

(Note for the record: I want heroic measures taken to keep me alive, and I demand the immediate arrest of anyone trying to remove my life support.)

In the absence of a living will, I would think the courts ought to be erring on the side of life. But short of that, couldn't we at least all agree that the courts should not defer to the pull-the-plug demands from anyone who:

  1. expresses an unseemly enthusiasm for another person's death;
  2. was the only person present when the incident leading to the persistent vegetative state occurred;
  3. stands to make money off the person's death; or
  4. is wearing a "W.W.C.V.B.D.?" (what would Claus von Bulow do?) bracelet?



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coulter; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
Note for the record: I want heroic measures taken to keep me alive, and I demand the immediate arrest of anyone trying to remove my life support - yea me too!

me too.

21 posted on 11/13/2003 4:58:06 PM PST by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: sarasmom
I love Anne. She is so funny. Thank God she has written something about this situation. I wonder if Rush will touch on it when he gets back.
22 posted on 11/13/2003 5:01:20 PM PST by TaxRelief (Welcome to the only website dedicated to the preservation of a free republic.)
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To: carenot
Me, too!
23 posted on 11/13/2003 5:02:07 PM PST by TaxRelief (Welcome to the only website dedicated to the preservation of a free republic.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
OK, so remove his tube, but do so very carefully.

Otherwise, we'll all be cleaning up $#!t until Thanksgiving day....

24 posted on 11/13/2003 5:23:10 PM PST by tracer
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To: Recovering_Democrat
It sounds like that judge is making judgments on the side of dying rather than living. Why does he want people to die?
25 posted on 11/13/2003 5:27:46 PM PST by freekitty
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To: MainFrame65
"George Greer is visually impaired, to the degree that he is unable to obtain a driver's license."

This, and related things, I did not know. This was a very informative thread, thanks to all.

My living will is also going to say DO ALL within reason to save me. And I hope my iron-willed friend will agree to be my proxy. She might not agree with my desires, but she'd go to her death to see my wishes done, like the fine American she is.
26 posted on 11/13/2003 5:34:24 PM PST by jocon307 (New tagline coming soon)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; ..
THANK YOU ANNIE!
27 posted on 11/13/2003 5:38:49 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: ChemistCat
Anne admits to lurking here. She was interviewed a few months ago on Radio FR, talking about her book. She also said "FReepers are great."
28 posted on 11/13/2003 5:45:32 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Recovering_Democrat
ping
29 posted on 11/13/2003 5:53:52 PM PST by chmst
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To: Blue Screen of Death
Oh ,I just knew she would chime in on this topic, I have been waiting. Thanks Ann, I love ya, I knew I could count on you!
30 posted on 11/13/2003 5:58:31 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: Blue Screen of Death
Oh ,I just knew she would chime in on this topic, I have been waiting. Thanks Ann, I love ya, I knew I could count on you!
31 posted on 11/13/2003 5:58:47 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Ann's humor is (1) very dry; (2) very good!
32 posted on 11/13/2003 6:03:48 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: TaxRelief

I read the funniest thing about Ann Coulter. Someone asked her a question, no doubt to catch her off guard. The question was, have you ever seen two women having s-x?
Ann answered Well,she'd seen Katie Couric's interview with Hillery Clinton.
33 posted on 11/13/2003 6:04:45 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: MainFrame65
Amen to post #20!!
34 posted on 11/13/2003 6:16:47 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: zip
ping
35 posted on 11/13/2003 6:21:03 PM PST by Mrs Zip
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To: sweetliberty
"George Greer is visually impaired, to the degree that he is unable to obtain a driver's license."

He is also legally impaired. With so many grave infirmaties and disabilities, perhaps someone should be ordered to remove his food, too.

36 posted on 11/13/2003 6:21:11 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Wooooo-HOOOOOO!! Way to go Ann! Great Job!!!
37 posted on 11/13/2003 6:29:41 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Unlike fictional superhero dolls the Ann Coulter version has a real life counterpart that leaps into action with rapier wit and a keyboard.


38 posted on 11/13/2003 6:38:04 PM PST by xp38
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Michael Shivo doesn't care about Terri anymore, having moved on with his life, but he is hell bent to accommodate her so-called "wish" to die. I'm sure she also made it clear to him that she wouldn't want him living with another woman, and has he honored that wish? It's so blatently transparent.
39 posted on 11/13/2003 6:39:40 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The same people who want to kill Terri believe that death-row cases are never final, no matter how many courts and juries have spoken over how many decades.

As usual, Ann whacks the proverbial nail on the head.

40 posted on 11/13/2003 6:41:13 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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