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Peterson seen driving to marina 3 times
SFChronicle.com ^ | November 14, 2003 | Henry Lee

Posted on 11/14/2003 5:32:37 AM PST by runningbear

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To: Sandylapper
I'd be slugging through all that evidence and finding something pretty good I had to offer besides the hair.

Aren't you the least bit interested in why Geragos didn't badger Brocchini about the results of the gunshot residue test?

341 posted on 11/16/2003 7:26:07 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Yaelle
Jo Ellen Demetirus joined the defense in late October:

http://community-2.webtv.net/westttrial/doc/page8.html

Gloria is wearing the tan coat, she's on the left as you look at the photos. Laura Ingle is in all dark clothes, has longer blonde hair than Gloria and is also taller:

http://community-2.webtv.net/westri/laci5/page4.html
342 posted on 11/16/2003 7:26:28 PM PST by hergus
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To: hergus
I'm sure she will be advising them to get as many young female airheads as possible.
343 posted on 11/16/2003 7:29:06 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Sandylapper
Here's the picture of the bouy again, per Gloria Gomez on CLL CTV:

http://community-2.webtv.net/melora_/SearchAreas/page10.html
344 posted on 11/16/2003 7:34:31 PM PST by hergus
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To: hergus
Thanks hergus. Now with that, I'm going to watch a movie. We will see what tomorrow has for us. Good night all!
345 posted on 11/16/2003 7:37:44 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
"BEWARE OF COPYCAT WEBSITES TRYING TO EXPLOIT LACI!!"

Oh no, that sucks, I hope everyone knows I don't profit in any way from my Laci website nor did I profit off of the Westerfield Trial website.

It makes me very sad that the Rochas have to be bothered by something like this on top of everything else the have to deal with now.
346 posted on 11/16/2003 7:44:08 PM PST by hergus
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To: Sandylapper
I wanted a source for your comment that one of the Rocha's told a lie about the insurance.

I know Scott lies.
347 posted on 11/16/2003 7:58:30 PM PST by hergus
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To: RGSpincich
I am. Of course, this is the pre-show, so to speak, neither side is showing all their aces, nor should they.

Prosecution only has to show enough to move forward, and defense dosen't have to show anything, unless they feel they have something that can put an absolute end to all question as to Scott's possible guilt.

From what the defense has done so far, it's the roads they have not gone down, plus the "Moses supposes..." questioning I find interesting.

This hearing is not to determine absolute guilt, nor is it to determine life or death for Scott: all it is to determine is whether there is enough evidence presented to move to trial to to determine these issues. And, as we know, investigations continue throughout trials, so who knows what the defense and the prosecution will present when the official trial begins (yes, I do think the judge will rule that Scott be held over for trial, and NOT released on bail).
348 posted on 11/16/2003 8:04:45 PM PST by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfallully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: hergus
Here's what I found tonight from that 210 page document (the transcripts), but note the ending sentence. There was previous discussion the day before with Brocchini.

1 Q. Okay. And he told you that they were life
2 insurance policies on both of them, one on Scott for 250,
3 one on Laci for 250; isn't that correct?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. And that they were also used for a -- what he
6 called an investment vehicle; isn't that what he told you?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. Okay. And that they were connected to their IRA or
9 retirement accounts; isn't that correct?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. Okay. At that point the -- that had pretty much
12 debunked -- I mean, you served the subpoena, and you got the
13 life insurance policies three days later; is that correct?
14 A. Yes.
15 Q. Okay. And the -- you had then confirmed at that
16 point that there was absolutely no truth to the rumor that
17 there was a recently purchased life insurance policy; isn't
18 that correct?
19 A. That would be correct.
20 Q. Okay. Now, were you aware that there was a Modesto
21 Bee article that came out, I don't know, the 16th or 17th of
22 January that was still putting forth this misinformation?
23 MR. HARRIS: Objection. Relevance.
24 MR. GERAGOS: Well, it's relevant --
25 THE COURT: Sustained.
26 MR. GERAGOS: Could I make an offer on that?
27 THE COURT: You can try.
28 MR. GERAGOS: Okay. Yesterday Mr. McAllister asked
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1 Detective Brocchini as to whether or not he was aware of
2 that article, and, in fact, he said yes, that was the same
3 article that he had phoned up people and told them to read
4 online at 6:40 in the morning, I believe it was on the 16th
5 of January. And I wanted to tie that up as to whether this
6 officer knows. I'm not going to pursue whether or not he
7 talked to Brocchini yet. I just want to know if he's aware
8 of the article.

350 posted on 11/16/2003 8:26:54 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: hergus
Thanks, herg! Hadn't seen that.
351 posted on 11/16/2003 8:32:00 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: RGSpincich
You have a theory on that RG? Of course, I'm curious, but it sounded to me as if Brocchini should have told SP that he was going to slip it in his pocket. Scott gave him permission to swab his hands. Then, later after Brocchini left, SP went out and his gun was gone. He didn't know for sure that Brocchini took it. Brocchini also said somewhere in the transcripts that he didn't know if he could answer a certain question, so I jumped to the conclusion that he shouldn't have taken a loaded firearm without doing some paperwork first. If you have a theory, shoot! I'll listen.
352 posted on 11/16/2003 8:41:44 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: gorbyon
Hi ya there, Newbie!
So, let me get this straight.
You signed up on FR today just to come onto a thread
that is discussing something that you have no interset in
just so you can post a message on the thread to announce
to everyone else that is on the thread discussing the subject
that you have no interest in the subject matter of the thread.
Well, hell, that just don't make a lot of damn sense, now does it?
353 posted on 11/16/2003 8:47:59 PM PST by DefCon
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To: DefCon
Guess he/she was looking for something interesting and found us ;-)
354 posted on 11/16/2003 9:34:05 PM PST by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfallully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: Yaelle
The buoy I saw a picture of was lighted.

But, you know, people go night fishing in boats, so we need only ask ourselves, what does the average fisherman do? What sort of moon was there that night? I don't see why he'd need more than maybe a flashlight and a lantern--and he could do pretty much whatever he wanted out there at night. OTOH, perhaps they are required by law to have some sort of light on their boats. Whatever type of light was needed, I don't see where he'd have had a problem with getting it. And all he was gonna do, once out there, was dump the body over the side.
355 posted on 11/16/2003 10:05:12 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: STOCKHRSE
Sorry if I was spoiling everyone's brandy and cigars and dreams of victory.

Do you remember your condescending post which immediately preceded my invitation to you to "kiss my derriere"? It was pretty personal. If you want, I'll go back and dig it up. Personally, I think you got off easy.

Lots of people here haven't been able to figure out your angle. You dutifully reiterate "I think he's guilty", then you qualify that by proceeding on to character assassination of a bunch of policemen of whom you have absolutely no personal knowledge. Here's the question that a lot of people have asked: What is your axe to grind with Modesto Police Department?

"The probative value is that she has no direct knowledge of the time, place, and participants of 'Actus Reus'[.]"

First of all, um, we don't necessarily know that that's a fact, do we? But yes, in general, we BELIEVE that she was nowhere around when the dirty deed was done.

That "probative value" only comes into play if/when the other party puts her on as a witness, thus asserting that she DOES have something relevant and material to testify to. You can't put on the impeachment FIRST--you have to wait till there's something to impeach.

I don't know why you insist on throwing around terms like "actus reus". A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

And next time your blood pressure shoots up and you decide to make me the target of your anger, please try to keep it clean, okay?
356 posted on 11/16/2003 10:15:27 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: cinFLA
Thank you. I was wondering.

Did everyone hear that? "Most night boating is done WITHOUT headlights."
357 posted on 11/16/2003 10:17:41 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
Sandy, you sound skeptical about this David that the tipster Marietta Wallace referred to. Why be so skeptical about him, but not be skeptical about two men named "Dirty" and "Skeeter"--or "Tony" and "Anthony"--or "Doug"? (No one even seems to be able to decide what their names are.) I'd save some skepticism for that con's story.
358 posted on 11/16/2003 10:20:10 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: drjulie
"Yes I do think he'd be willing to take that kind of risk."

I think so, too. Lord knows he'd taken plenty of other risks--and that goes whether he committed the murder or not.
359 posted on 11/16/2003 10:21:20 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Sandylapper
Okay, you're a good card player, and you think the prosecution or the cops are bluffing? That remains to be seen. But why can't you also see the incredible amount of bluffing that is coming from Mark Geragos? I can see that, too, and I'm only a mediocre card player.
360 posted on 11/16/2003 10:25:53 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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