Posted on 11/14/2003 6:47:13 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
children stoned.....
Creep - and heartbreaking. It's a beautifully written story. I first read it many years ago in an anthology that I think was entitled, Tales of Terror and the Supernatural. Years later on Night Gallery, it received a nice interpretation with Orson Welles as narrator.
Duh
You nailed it. Regards.
I pasted this article at Post #5 above. This is from the flagship, the Chalcedon Foundation, and isn't paraphrased by any outsider with a negative agenda - its what they believe. Also, take a look at their front page, and enjoy the doomcrying, the loaded "poll", the general note of hysteria and misery. These guys do believe that they have a spiritual mandate to govern, and if what they've done to the GOP apparatus in California is any precurser (by stealthily placing people and trashing the party from within), we can expect more of the same from them.
I wondered where Moore's lawyers got the language for one of their motions. This is almost word for word, if not exactly word for word:
He probably does not realize it, but Attorney General Pryor shares the jurisprudence of the German judges put on trial at Nuremberg in the case of U. S. v. Alstoetter, a trial made famous in the Hollywood production Judgment at Nuremberg. The judges in Germany swore an oath similar to the one taken by the German military: “I swear by God this sacred oath, that I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces …” The German judges defended their actions in enforcing unjust “laws” and of convicting and even sentencing men and women to death who were innocent of wrongdoing or guilty of only minor wrongs. The German judges argued that they were simply following the law of obeying orders of higher officials. Their actions, they argued, were therefore justified. This is the position that Attorney General Pryor has taken with respect to Roe v. Wade. He has promised to withhold the protection of law from thousands of innocent unborn children until the “law” changes. He doesn’t seem to see that Roe v. Wade is an act of lawlessness. It is not law. Compare that to the situation that the Alstoetter court noted existed in Germany: “[T]he dagger of the assassin was concealed beneath the robe of the jurist.”
The brief goes so far as to compare Pryor's legal reasoning with that of Nazi judges tried at Nuremberg following World War II. Their defense was essentially that they followed orders of the Third Reich when they ordered the executions of innocents and petty criminals.
Moore's attorneys juxtapose Pryor's opposition to the U.S. Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion, with his public statements before Congress earlier this year that he would enforce the decision if confirmed as a federal judge.
"He probably does not realize it, but Attorney General Pryor shares the jurisprudence of the German judges put on trial at Nuremberg," the chief justice's attorneys wrote in their brief. "... The judges in Germany swore an oath similar to the one taken by the German military" and "... argued that they were simply following the law of obeying orders of higher officials. This is the position (Pryor) has taken with respect to Roe v. Wade."
http://www.al.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news/1068632181289480.xml?mobileregister?nmet
Like you, I am Catholic and I've been told I am not a Christian by three FReeper Calvinists' I "could" name.Though myself an agnostic, half my family is Catholic, to the point of having included a cardinal a few years back. Therefore, my anti-Catholic-bigot detectors are pretty strong. I don't doubt for a second that Reconstructionists, if pressed, don't consider Catholics to be Christians. Indeed they would likely call them "idolators"...something else they have in common with fundamentalist Moslems.
-Eric
I figure, woe to those who mess with Jesus or his teachings to advance their selfish political agendas.The best I can tell, Christianity never sought to enforce its creed among the unwilling before the conversion of Constantine. So Reconstructionists can only trace their Christian roots to him. Before him their historical path leads not to Jesus of Nazareth and his God, but to Caesar and Zeus.One would think so, especially after reading the Gospels.
-Eric
Over the years I have come to laugh at the assertion, but it is nonetheless disgusting. Imagine, Saint Peter's Church is not Christian?!My favorites are the people who claim Thomas Jefferson was a Christian (despite his disbelief in Christ's divinity) but would deny Roman Catholics the same status. Of course, if Jefferson and Franklin were not "Christians", then the entire "Christian Nation" premise falls faceward.
In the US at least, Jews and Catholics do not seem inclined to prosletyze, let alone legislate their creed (its a lot easier to buy pork in a Jewish neighborhood or a burger on a Friday during Lent in a Catholic one that alcohol in certain Baptist areas). I'd consider that a sign of personal religious security. :)
-Eric
I would agree with this, but perhaps others with better historical knowledge can point to prior instances of Christians trying to dominate others via the use of force.
Speaking of religious tolerance, I've been having a craving for Middle Eastern cooking, and having lunch at various Middle Eastern restaurants for the past week or so, despite the fact that it's Ramadan. I like eating in Middle Eastern restaurants during Ramadan, they are almost completely uncrowded, since Muslims can't eat until sunset.Or it could be a misguided "anti-crime" initiative. :)So, I agree, it's a lot easier to get a falafel sandwich during Ramadan than buy liquor on Sunday. In DC, you can't even buy beer at a grocery store on Sunday - I guess it's the black Baptist influence.
Seriously, your point about the Muslim restaurants supports something I've been saying since September 11th. The huge majority of American Muslims are here to get away from the fundamentalists, not spread their influence. They're our allies against those people and its [nice word]imprudent [/niceword] for some to claim otherwise.
-Eric
*sigh*
I think I can still do grape leaves, but am now worried about the wheat in kibbee.
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