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US: SADDAM'S DEPUTY BEHIND ATTACKS
Sky News ^ | 11/17/03

Posted on 11/17/2003 10:03:47 AM PST by areafiftyone

The US Army claims to have evidence that Saddam Hussein's deputy, Izzat Ibrahim, is behind some of the recent attacks on Coalition forces inside Iraq.

It comes as the US military confirmed that two soldiers had been killed in attacks north of Baghdad.

In relation to Ibrahim, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt said: "We are getting more intelligence that suggests he was directly implicated in the killing of some Coalition soldiers."

More to follow...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alduri; enemy; hussein; iraq; izzatibrahim; izzatibrahimalduri; ramadan2003; saddam; saddamhussein

1 posted on 11/17/2003 10:03:47 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
It appears we must step up our effort to finish this guy off.
2 posted on 11/17/2003 10:04:39 AM PST by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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To: areafiftyone
King of Clubs / Dead Man Walking


3 posted on 11/17/2003 10:08:03 AM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: freepersup
That's right Ibrahim, salute like a little sissy Montgomery. Were commin' for yah.
4 posted on 11/17/2003 10:11:36 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: areafiftyone
There's a hole in the desert with "Izzy's" name on it.
5 posted on 11/17/2003 10:16:29 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus
He always wanted "A SAND NAP". His wish WILL come true.
6 posted on 11/17/2003 10:54:55 AM PST by Uncle George
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To: areafiftyone
"US: SADDAM'S DEPUTY BEHIND ATTACKS"

....because Saddam has been pushing up daisies for months now.
7 posted on 11/17/2003 11:07:57 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs (...and pecked by the dove...)
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To: freepersup
Looks like Mr. Costanza.
8 posted on 11/17/2003 11:08:26 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: areafiftyone
BOLO:


9 posted on 11/17/2003 12:07:35 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: freepersup

10 posted on 11/17/2003 12:13:35 PM PST by stlnative
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To: areafiftyone
Well, well, Izzy the Redhead! He needs to understand something rather important. To quote John Gotti, "...he is a dead man". Nothing can or will save him. And nobody cares, certainly not his own comrades. And he has himself, and his glorious maximum leader, Saddam Hussein, to thank for it.
11 posted on 11/17/2003 1:21:41 PM PST by Richard Axtell
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To: rs79bm
geraldo had a good segment about this guy last night on his show. we are supposedly negotiating with this guy for his "surrender", more like a deal with him to break up his participation in organizing resistance.
12 posted on 11/17/2003 1:25:16 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Dead Dog
Knock it off!

Montgomery was no sissy on the battlefield and the Brits are your staunch allies in this fight so I think an apology is order...
13 posted on 11/17/2003 1:37:55 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Dead Dog
Knock it off!

Montgomery was no sissy on the battlefield and the Brits are your staunch allies in this fight so I think an apology is order...
14 posted on 11/17/2003 1:39:33 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
The only problem with Monte was, other than being a sissy, was that he was too much Von Clauswitz, and too little Patton.
15 posted on 11/17/2003 2:04:26 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
You mean he should have been a loud mouthed, anti-semite bully instead of a thoughtful and educated man??
16 posted on 11/17/2003 2:37:54 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
I agree with you that the Brits are our allies but Montgomery was a very poor operational planner Think Dieppe and the Invasion of Holland. Both debacles and both planned by Monty.
17 posted on 11/17/2003 3:07:05 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Daddy, how many US soldiers have to die in defense of Freedom? Daughter, if necessary, all but 9.)
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To: CholeraJoe
Both Monty and Patton were somewhat flawed individuals, What I objected to was the equating of one (or either, for that matter) to an Iraqi mass murderer
18 posted on 11/17/2003 3:12:28 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
I'll give you that one.
19 posted on 11/17/2003 3:13:47 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Daddy, how many US soldiers have to die in defense of Freedom? Daughter, if necessary, all but 9.)
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To: Wil H
Actually, I should have called him a sissy Monty wannabe, not to imply a similarity.
20 posted on 11/17/2003 3:36:37 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Wil H
Nah, he should have gotten his butt off the beach and attacked the freaking Germans.

As far as Patton being an Anti-semite..maybe, do you have evidense of this, and was Mony really pro-semite?
21 posted on 11/17/2003 3:45:47 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: areafiftyone
Monty had his good moments and his bad moments. On the whole I think he was somewhat over the hill in the later stages of the war.
22 posted on 11/17/2003 6:45:41 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dead Dog
Since you ask...

From "The War between the Generals" by David Irving

Patton "told his staff that he could not understand how the Arabs could share their hovels with animals. Arriving in Sicily, he added that he could not understand how the animals could live with Sicilians in their yards." By the end of the war Patton was expressing serious doubts about the results of the conflict. In a letter to his wife, he confessed: "Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race and we [are] about to replace them with Mongolian savages." And in another letter, Patton admitted: "The stuff in the papers about fraternization is all wet... All that sort of writing is done by Jews to get revenge. Actually, the Germans are the only decent people left in Europe... I prefer the Germans. So do our cousins [the British]." After touring refugee camps he came to see Jews as "lower than animals."
23 posted on 11/17/2003 7:39:40 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
OK guys, let's not re-fight WWII, especially since we've both got our young men and women fighting side by side to keep this war on terror from turning into WWIII.

I don't think anyone meant to insult Monty, I think they were insulting this guy's attempt to look like Monty when he's less than half the man.

24 posted on 11/17/2003 7:46:22 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Wil H
Patton was an old school aristocrat and a nutjob in almost every way. Fortunately for the US he wound up serving his contry in a role for which he was ideally suited. The miracle was that he survived such a long career in the peacetime army without resigning or blowing his brains out from sheer desperate boredom.
25 posted on 11/17/2003 7:50:07 PM PST by SBprone
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To: McGavin999
Fairy 'nuff
26 posted on 11/17/2003 8:05:21 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
It just took a crane to get him off his a$$...
27 posted on 11/17/2003 9:36:48 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Wil H
After touring refugee camps he came to see Jews as "lower than animals."

Pretty context dependent don't you think?

28 posted on 11/18/2003 10:10:25 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
Not really, how about his comment about the Arabs (who are also semites BTW)? Or his comment about the Germans being the only decent people in Europe?

He appeared to have an arrogant disdain for just about everybody, including the "Mongolian Hordes" and the Sicilians.

Has all the characteristics of racial bigotry to me.
29 posted on 11/18/2003 10:22:25 AM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
Not really, how about his comment about the Arabs (who are also semites BTW)? Or his comment about the Germans being the only decent people in Europe?

He appeared to have an arrogant disdain for just about everybody, including the "Mongolian Hordes" and the Sicilians.

Has all the characteristics of racial bigotry to me.

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would you also call him a fool for having served the interests of all the races he is porported to have distained.
30 posted on 11/18/2003 10:27:58 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Trampled by Lambs
This Saddam is no more! 'E's expired! 'E's gone on to meet his Maker! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! He's curled up his tootsies! 'E's rung down th curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible! 'E's f***ing snuffed it! This is an EX-Saddam!
31 posted on 11/18/2003 10:30:09 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: McGavin999
Nah, I really didn't intend to insult Monty. However, I'll be damned if I pretend he was a great military mind.

The Britts love Monty like American's love FDR. Interestingly, the differences in Monty and Patton reflect the differences in our culture. The Britts disdain for Patton, and "Cowboys" in general, reflect a certain bigotry towards Americans. Most seem to think Americans are unprofessional, reckless, ignorant, and uneducated. Notice the implication that Patton was less educated then Monty. Monty was educated at Dunkirk, Monty failed to pay attention, at least Patton did.

This bigotry hinders their military's ability appreciate Maneuver Warfare...which Patton embodied. (probably because they think it's mispelled). This seems to be true today, during the first Gulf War, a certain Britt commander refused to fight alongside the USMC, who has adopted maneuver warfare as doctrine. The reason given was the Marines "recklessness". The Marines, and maneuver warfare, won that war. I don't recall the Britt commanders name.

Monty, was surely better than this clown, who trys to dress like him. Monty was probably a better man than most of us. But he was not Patton's better, especially not in combat.
32 posted on 11/18/2003 10:38:02 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: ckilmer
I didn't call him a fool.
33 posted on 11/18/2003 12:04:20 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Dead Dog
Well, I'll accept your anaysis as close to accurate and the nearest thing to an apology as we are likely to get...:-)

BTW Brits are Brits, not Britts, there is only one T in British.
34 posted on 11/18/2003 12:08:43 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
Actually, I will apologize. To make any comparison between some sleaze ball in uniform and a Brit (one T) is un-called for. I guess I'm still a little ticked that Manchester United were the first team to sell out Seahawk Stadium.

I still think Monty was a little to stuck on being proper, professional, and Von Clauswitz at the expense of performance. But that could be my own bigotry speaking.

I also think the above quote from Patton declaring jews "..lower than animals", not being a complete sentence, is dependant on context for meaning. The auther would have used the entire sentence if it had supported his conclusion, IMO.

As for German's being the best people in Europe at the end of the war...I have to agree with him. France and Italy/Sicily were Bannana Republics in comparison. And the Arabs, please, they are walking proof that cultures are not created equally.
35 posted on 11/18/2003 1:49:15 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
Your analysis of Monty is spot on, and don't worry about Manchester United, their day is done, they are in the process of being eclipsed by Chelsea as the World's pre-eminent team.
36 posted on 11/18/2003 2:06:28 PM PST by Wil H
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To: Wil H
I didn't call him a fool.
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Does a wise man fight for the interests of his enemies?
37 posted on 11/19/2003 8:58:15 AM PST by ckilmer
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