Another 'Honor' Victim: Daughter, Raped By Brothers, Killed By Mother

Knight Ridder ^ | 11.14.2003 | Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson

[Lion in Winter]

Muslims recruit rapists in prisons here in the USA, you know. The muslim mullahs preach to them the rules about killing/stoning of rape victims, which is written in the koran and the rapists join up, fast as they can.

[Lion in Winter]

NO! The koran calls for the stoning of a woman who has been raped... UNLESS, she has 4 male witness' to the act who will testify on her behalf.

This is a religion issue.

[PoisedWoman]

They do not want it, and do not know how to exist without hatred.

You may be correct. A woman in my community is from Palestine, has been here 25 years, her husband and kids were born in America, and yet, just beneath the surface of her rather typical American life lies a hatred that knows no bounds. She cannot get through a day without shrieking (!) with hatred toward Bush and Jews unless she loads up on tranquillizers. And she's trying to get over it, aware that it's irrational. She's not a stupid woman, nor a Muslim. But she's emotionally out of control. I suspect they all are. Is it in the genes?

[Lion in Winter]

Yes, it does say that women who CLAIM to be raped must have 4 male witnesses willing to testify on her behalf. Otherwise she will be stoned/killed.

Didn't you hear about the case in Africa where a woman was raped and a muslim court sentenced her to be stoned AFTER she gave birth to the child conceived as a result of that rape.

There were organizations all over the world trying to free her from that sentance.

Last I read, she will be spared but must leave for another country.... A non-sharia law (koranic law)country.

[BlackVeil]

In the details of the story, it says that the sons are in prison, and the mother has destroyed all photos and belongings of theirs in the house. I think that they would be in danger if they returned.

[snowstorm12]

I think if they're so concerned about "honor" they should make it law that any female in fear of rape assault should be allowed and encouraged to kill the rapist(s) or cut off their penis as self defense before the attack, thus preventing females reputation from being sullied and female virtue and virginity which define a family's reputation in Arab cultures will remain intact. Arm all females from young ages with weapons to protect "the family honor" if that is most important. This approach will do much to reduces many honor killings and increases the killings of rapists and thugs. Of course this approach probably puts a monkey wrentch into men's plan to have easy and free access to women which is why they like things just the way they are.

[SarahW]

How would the so-called "palestinians" react if parents and brothers were jailed permanently or executed for such acts, by the Jews or anyone else?

You can't do anything with these people. They are completely, totally, utterly depraved. God save their souls.

[SarahW]

You see, "nice" girls are supposed to fight rape until they are killed. The Boys, they just can't be expected to help themselves.

Witness, roving gangs of immigrant muslim rapists terrorizing Eurupean women.

[SarahW]

But according to sharia (based on the koran) it isn't even rape unless there are a sufficient number of male witnesses testifying to that effect. So she is guilty of zima, and must die.

[SarahW]

I refer to it only as ROPMA.

[SarahW]

I know, they have all these almost *romantic* notions about spilling their own blood, dancing in enemy blood, wiping things off in blood......blood, blood, blood.

They think it's suitable children's television programming to sing about violence and death.

[Happy2BMe]

""She killed me before I killed her," says the 43-year-old mother of nine. "I had to protect my children. This is the only way I could protect my family's honor."

So this is how Muslims define "HONOR?"

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[b9]

Next Palestinian boy that does an Israili girl, let's have a replay of the story of Dinah, or something along those lines.

Works for me!

[laotzu]

"Is it in the genes?"

It is confounding, but; for the most part, academic. A mad dog is dealt with in the same way regardless of whether the source of madness is apparant. I truly regret that such analogies apply to fellow humans.

As a mindset, as a personal source of passion, as a national identity, as a vehicle to get noticed by the French; this blind, irrational hatred ironically simplifies many facets of the Palestinian life.

It is all of what they are. Without the Israelies, there is absolutely nothing tangible, or identifiable as being Palestinian.....whether of the culture, or the nation. I can easily imagine that the prospect of no Israel verges on abstract panic for Palestine. They really are nothing, except for hatred.

[Simcha7]

"These people are not EVEN barbarians."...

How RIGHT You are!

They are Worse than Barbarians...they are the Seed of AMALEK!

ROPMA!

And of course even this "Palie" Culture of Death is blamed directly on Israel and the JEWISH People.

I'm really starting to believe that ALL Arabs and Adherents to Islam are...Certifiable NUTS they should be Institutionalized and Neutered!

[NYC GOP Chick]

Kind of what the NAZIs said about the Jews. This is a cultural thing not a religious thing. Funny how little we've learned in 70 years.

Oh really? Were the Jews all about jihad and spreading Judaism -- even by force, if necessary? Were the Jews about murdering rape victims?

Just because they call it a religion doesn't mean that I have to respect it in all its incarnations, especially the militants and Wahhabis.

[river rat]

"Kind of what the NAZIs said about the Jews. This is a cultural thing not a religious thing. Funny how little we've learned in 70 years.

Exactly, that cuts both ways...
Shall we report to the train stations - and be transported off to concentration camps?
Or, shall we see evil, define it as evil and fight evil?

What evidence it there to support the contention that the Islamists will ever learn to live in peace with the rest of the world?

How does one separate the militant Islamists from the Muslims that are willing to live and let live --- especially when the "moderate" Muslims do so damned little to address the monsters within their midst?

I'm beginning to believe that a "moderate Muslim" is one simply awaiting the outcome...and leaning toward the Islamists...

It matters not to me if it is primarily their cult religion or their tribal culture that makes them monsters.....we are in a war with monsters..
And I find nothing FUNNY about it...

Semper Fi

[maro]

We must not be judgmental.

[Barnacle]

Cultural diversity bump.

[Kaslin]

It is sad to me that life has no value there.

Why was the baby allowed to live and not the mother. She didn't do anything wrong.

Neither did the baby