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Is Iron Causing All the Flares?
Universe Today ^ | 11/18/03

Posted on 11/19/2003 9:15:52 AM PST by LibWhacker

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To: Cold Heat

161 posted on 03/13/2005 9:17:05 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
I see your point......looks like a cross section of a cherry cream.

God has a sense of humor.

162 posted on 03/13/2005 9:21:26 PM PST by Cold Heat (This space is being paid not to do anything.)
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To: LibWhacker

Hmmn. I think I need to see some data on this theory before I give it any credence at all.

It is an interesting Theory, but only that. Granted there is Iron in the core of the sun. We have known that for a long time. It is reasonable to assume that some of the material making up our solar system came from a super Nova. The Universe is afterall an OLD place. However, it would seem to me that the Neutron Star core thoery would lead to instability in our Star that we do not see, and can find no record of here on earth. Certanly the 11 year periodocity of oru sun's solar cycles would lead one to believe just the opposite. the period is too long. Most Neutron stars have rotational and magnetic patterns that are a LOT faster. Like a few rotations a second.

Like I said, interesting theory, but it just seems to ignore too many observations that we have made of our little sun. Lot's of Iron, yes. A Neutron Star core, uh, not buying in on that one.


163 posted on 03/13/2005 9:25:35 PM PST by Danae (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Why haven't I heard about this home design...what are you architecting?

Do I need a computer, I got an extra one.


164 posted on 03/13/2005 9:50:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well the book, 100 Billion Suns now seems really out of date, didn't have anything about the Magnatars either.

I need a new book .,


165 posted on 03/13/2005 11:23:57 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: PatrickHenry
If it's what we assume, hydrogen-into-helium fusion, how did all that hydrogen survive the supernova explosion and remain behind to ignite the burned-out remains of the nova?

Presumably a dense inner stellar core made up of heavier elements would attract the 'loose' hydrogen cloud that remained from the Supernova (ie. the nebula would eventually collapse on it's center of mass). At some point the fusion process would re-ignite, I suppose.

166 posted on 03/14/2005 4:39:54 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: longshadow; RadioAstronomer

167 posted on 03/14/2005 5:39:21 AM PST by js1138
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To: Semper Paratus

The Russian word for the nesting dolls is "Matryoshka". "Patrushka" is probably the Russian word for inflatable companion.


168 posted on 03/14/2005 6:08:39 AM PST by katana
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To: longshadow
The more I read, the more wacky this article seems.

The article is either poorly written or just nonsense. It violates the current understanding of how the sun works right after the solar neutrino problem was finally solved.

Something's just not right here.

169 posted on 03/14/2005 8:40:10 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: katana
Petrushka puppet. The word Petrushka usually refers to the ballet by Stravinsky.


170 posted on 03/14/2005 8:49:17 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138

Thanks, I didn't know about that (and sorry for the lame joke)


171 posted on 03/14/2005 10:58:46 AM PST by katana
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To: Doctor Stochastic; Cold Heat; SunkenCiv; All
> If the flare was initiated by a iron cored sun, then their would be some evidence of iron someplace, somewhwere.

Correct. And you are also correct that we don't see this. Iron is the heaviest nucleus that can be made by normal fusion reactions; that's why it's interesting. Novae and supernovae are necessary to create heaver elements.

But that's what this Professor Manuel is saying; he's has evidence of iron, nickel, oxygen, and silicon :

Sun's Surface Composition

Composition of Bulk Sun (after correction)

If he's correct, this would account for what we observe of the planets, comets and meteorites.

If they are formed of the same stuff as the rest of the solar system:
A sun composed of H/He has very few elements in common with the known composition of the orbiting bodies, but a Fe/Ni/O/Si would have nearly the same composition as them.

172 posted on 03/14/2005 11:09:09 AM PST by dread78645 (Sarcasm tags are for wusses.)
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To: dread78645

Thanks.


173 posted on 03/14/2005 11:14:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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To: dread78645

But that type of composition would have a difference spectrum.


174 posted on 03/14/2005 11:37:54 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
But that type of composition would have a difference spectrum.

(different?) Could be.
The known spectra of comets and planets are based on reflected light. None (that I know of) are from radiated light at 7,000 - 1,000,000 Kelvin.

Either way, a sun with iron, nickel, oxygen, and silicon would be closer in composition than would be the standard hydrogen - helium theory.
Again, assuming the sun, planets, comets, etc. were formed by accretion form the same ball of matter.

175 posted on 03/14/2005 12:05:57 PM PST by dread78645 (Sarcasm tags are for wusses.)
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The Sun: A Great Ball of Iron?
Science Daily
Posted on 07/18/2002 2:33:32 AM EDT by per loin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/718067/posts


176 posted on 02/16/2008 8:59:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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