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Turkey: 'Sow war and reap terror' (Clinton's role in the rise of al-Qaeda)
atimes.com ^ | Nov 22, 2003 | K Gajendra Singh

Posted on 11/21/2003 3:53:50 PM PST by Destro

Nov 22, 2003 Middle East

Turkey: 'Sow war and reap terror'

By K Gajendra Singh

Sow war and reap terror - A banner in a February peace march in Paris

Many disquieting messages have been sent with the two car bombings in Istanbul on Thursday, just five days after attacks on two synagogues and coinciding with Queen Elizabeth's hosting of United States President George W Bush in London. Turkey's stock market fell immediately, and world markets felt the fallout. The latest attacks, which claimed the lives of at least 25 people, will certainly adversely affect Turkey's economic recovery.

The bombings were against British targets - the Istanbul British consulate and HSBC bank, which is Britain-based. An attack on British interests, and even its timing, had been generally predicted in London and Washington following attacks against the interests of Israel, Australia and other US allies, including Jordan, Turkey, Spain, Italy and Saudi Arabia. Only the locale was in question. It turned out to be Turkey's metropolitan and beautiful city of Istanbul, a capital of Romans and Byzantines for more than a millennium and of the Ottomans from 1453 until the new republic's capital was established in Ankara in 1923.

Apart from sending a very clear message to Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, the two who have been at the forefront of the "war on terrorism", to which they added an attack on Iraq, without any justifiable reason, countries like Spain, Italy, Poland etc will think twice in siding further with them. India and Pakistan have said no to a request for troops, and Japan is rethinking its decision to send non-combat troops.

Turkey's ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) leadership, with its Islamic roots, after first refusing to let the US use its territory to open a second front against Iraq in March, will also be in a quandary. The Islamic jihad, like any other multinational, is now truly a globalized entity, and it has no love for such soft Islamic parties that rule in Turkey or elsewhere.

Turkey has a well-trained armed force of nearly a million, with experience of fighting a Marxist Kurdish insurgency in southeast of the country in which over 35,000 people, including 5,000 soldiers, have lost their lives. Turkey also feels that north Iraq was stolen by the British for its oil reserves after World War I, when Kemal Ataturk molded a secular republic out of the ashes of the Ottoman empire.

The armed forces are self-appointed guardians of Ataturk's secular legacy and have been at odds with the ruling AKP since the latter's massive electoral victory in last November's elections, which made it the first-ever Islamic party to come to power in Turkey since 1923. If even Turkey, which is close to a Western democratic secular model, can be destabilized, then the region will become like many volcanos gone wild.

The dangers to European security inherent in Turkey joining the Europe Union at any time soon - when Islamic bombers can strike with such ease - are obvious. This will provide the EU leadership justification for its policy of saying "not yet". In any case, while praising Turkey for its efforts in meeting its criteria of reforms to begin talks for entry, the EU has been humming and hawing about how the reforms will be implemented on the ground. So Turkey becoming a full member of the EU, never a possibility in my opinion, can now be put on the back burner. This will only disappoint and dishearten secular forces in Turkey and encourage and embolden Islamist elements.

However, taking advantage of the EU criteria, the AKP has succeeded in diminishing the military's dominant role in Turkish politics, which it had exercised though the all powerful National Security Council (NSC), whose recommendations had to be implemented by the government. The armed forces forced the first-ever Islamist prime minister, Nacmettin Erbakan, heading a coalition government, to resign in 1997.

The Turkish masses have in the past had the highest regard for the military, and have been generally happy that it has intervened to clean up the messes created by politicians in takeovers in 1960, 1971 and 1980. But eager to join the EU, which many feel will bring prosperity, people have been quite satisfied at the reduction in the military's role in politics.

Now, though, in the changed situation of terror and insecurity, it would be easy to win public approval for the NSC to be revived. President Ahmet Sezer, a former head of the Constitutional Court, another bastion of Turkey's secular establishment, was not happy to have signed the decree that emasculated the NSC and the Turkish armed forces. The AKP has a two-thirds majority in parliament, but its leadership, with a temperamental prime minister in Tayep Erdogan - his experience is limited to a stint as mayor of Istanbul - will have serious difficulties in tackling the new situation.

The missing Balkan period

Remember the two women premiers of Turkey and Pakistan in the mid-1990s, Tansu Ciller and Benazir Bhutto respectively, both allies of the US who visited Bosnia with US encouragement to show solidarity with the massacred and suppressed Muslims. They made the day of photographers by trying to outdo each other for photo opportunities.

During the current debate, the Balkan chapter of the 1990s and the US and European role in the breakup of Yugoslavia and subsequent events are not scrutinized closely. The origins of al-Qaeda and other terror groups during the Afghan war of 1979-1992, their fight against the Soviet army and the role of the US, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and others is well documented, including Osama bin Laden's drive to recruit Muslim volunteers world-wide. US officials estimate that tens of thousands of foreign fighters were trained in bomb-making, sabotage and guerrilla warfare tactics in Afghan camps that the US Central Intelligence Agency helped set up between 1985-92.

After the Russians withdrew from Afghanistan in 1989, and the Najibullah communist regime collapsed in 1992, the Afghan mujahideen became irrelevant to the US. But the mujahideen had acquired a taste for fighting, and now they had no cause. But soon a new cause arose.

During 1992-95, the Pentagon helped with the movement of thousands of mujahideen and other Islamic elements from Central Asia, even some Turks, into Europe to fight alongside Bosnian Muslims against the Serbs.

"It was very important in the rise of mujahideen forces and in the emergence of current cross-border Islamic terrorist groups who think nothing of moving from state to state in the search of outlets for their jihadi mission. In moving to Bosnia, Islamic fighters were transported from the caves of Afghanistan and the Middle East into Europe; from an outdated battleground of the Cold War to the major world conflict of the day; from being yesterday's men to fighting alongside the West's favored side in the clash of the Balkans. If Western intervention in Afghanistan created the mujahideen, Western intervention in Bosnia appears to have globalized it."

This is a quotation from a Dutch government report after investigations, prepared by Professor C Wiebes of Amsterdam University, into the Srebrenica massacre of July 1995, entitled "Intelligence and the War in Bosnia", published in April 2002.

It details the secret alliance between the Pentagon and radical Islamic groups from the Middle East and their efforts to assist Bosnia's Muslims. By 1993, a vast amount of weapons were being smuggling through Croatia to the Muslims, organized by "clandestine agencies" of the US, Turkey and Iran, in association with a range of Islamic groups that included the Afghan Mujahideen and the pro-Iranian Hezbollah. Arms bought by Iran and Turkey with the financial backing of Saudi Arabia were airlifted from the Middle East to Bosnia - airlifts with which, Wiebes points out, the US was "very closely involved".

The Pentagon's alliance with Islamic elements permitted mujahideen fighters to be "flown in" as shock troops for particularly hazardous operations against Serb forces. According to a report in the Los Angeles Times in October 2001, from 1992 as many as 4,000 mujahideen from the Middle East, North Africa and Europe reached Bosnia to fight with the Muslims. Richard Holbrooke, America's former chief Balkans peace negotiator, said as much. The Bosnian Muslims "wouldn't have survived" without the imported mujahideen, which was a "pact with the devil" from which Bosnia would take long to recover. If the US made a pact with the devil, then the Muslim mujahideen made a pact with Satan. They temporized with the Christian West to defeat the ungodly Russian communists, now they are after the US-led Crusaders.

During the mid-1990s the Turkish media were full of reports of Muslim fighters in Bosnia and Serbia. One Turkish journalist who went there was even said to have fired at the Serbs. Many even applauded the act. It was then easy for Turkish cadres to mingle, learn and establish relationships with al-Qaeda, the Taliban and other international cadres. Many in the Turkish establishment are strong believers in Sunni Islam. From time to time they have massacred Turkey's Alevis - close to the Shi'ites in belief - most of whom are perhaps the real Turkomens from Central Asia.

The Balkans were part of the Ottoman empire for centuries, as a result of which many Slavs and others converted to Islam. Many Turkish tribes also migrated to the Balkan vilayats (provinces) as the ruling elite. As the Ottoman empire shrank, millions of Muslims from the Balkans migrated to Turkey, and now at least 5 million Turkish citizens have origins in the Balkans or have relatives there, especially Bosnia, and they exercise influence on the Turkish government. Later, the Ottomans took wives from Bosnia. So contact between Turks and Bosnians and Kosovars during the 1990s was normal and natural, but it may have left a legacy, perhaps deadly, yet to be investigated and untangled.

But by the end of the 1990s, State Department officials (as now vis-a-vis the Pentagon), were increasingly worried about the consequences of this devil's pact sponsored by the Pentagon. Under the terms of the 1995 Dayton Peace Accord, the foreign mujahideen units were required to disband and leave the Balkans. Yet in 2000, the State Department raised concerns about the "hundreds of foreign Islamic extremists" who became Bosnian citizens after fighting against the Serbs, and who will remain a potential terror threat to Europe and the United States.

US officials claimed that "one of bin Laden's top lieutenants had sent operatives to Bosnia", and that during the 1990s Bosnia had served as a "staging area and safe haven" for al-Qaeda and others. The Bill Clinton administration learned that it was one thing to permit the movement of Islamic groups across territories; it was quite another to rein them back in again.

And in spite of the official US stand against jihadis, it permitted the growth and movement of mujahideen cadres in Europe during the 1990s. In the runup to Clinton and Blair's Kosovo war of 1999, the US backed the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) against Serbia. The Jerusalem Post reported in 1998 that KLA members, like the Bosnian Muslims earlier, were "provided with financial and military support from Islamic countries", and had been "bolstered by hundreds of Iranian fighters or mujahideen ... [some of whom] were trained in Osama bin Laden's terrorist camps in Afghanistan". So the US's pact with the devil continued.

The aspect of the mujahideen's encouragement by the US and its growth in Balkan Europe has been largely overlooked, and the Bosnia connection remains largely unexplored. In Jason Burke's excellent Al-Qaeda: Casting a Shadow of Terror, Bosnia is mentioned only in passing. Kimberley McCloud and Adam Dolnik of the Monterey Institute of International Studies have written some incisive commentary calling for rational thinking when assessing al-Qaeda's origins and threat - but little on the Bosnian link.

A cool analysis of today's disparate Islamic terror groups, created in Afghanistan and emboldened by the Bosnian experience, would do much to shed some light on precisely the dangers of such intervention. Car bombers in Istanbul on November 15 and 20 are perhaps the results.

K Gajendra Singh, Indian ambassador (retired), served as ambassador to Turkey from August 1992 to April 1996. Prior to that, he served terms as ambassador to Jordan, Romania and Senegal. He is currently chairman of the Foundation for Indo-Turkic Studies. Email Gajendrak@hotmail.com


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alqaeda; balkans; britishconsulate; campaignfinance; clintonscandals; hsbcbank; napalminthemorning; turkey; turkeytrouble; wot; x42
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Thanks to Indians like K Gajendra Singh, chairman of the Foundation for Indo-Turkic Studies.

Clinton's foreign policy in Bosnia in support of the Muslims created an opportunity for 9/11 to happen. Clandestine links can help explain why Bosnian Muslim war veterens in the late 90s came into the US and were unmolested right up until they drove planes into buildings (yes, some of the 9/11 al-Qaeda were Bosnian Muslim fighters-some under investigation by the UN war crimes court).

1 posted on 11/21/2003 3:53:50 PM PST by Destro
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To: *balkans
bump from India.
2 posted on 11/21/2003 3:54:23 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: genefromjersey; Incorrigible
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3 posted on 11/21/2003 3:59:08 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
We have been in a World WAR with islam, which started in Europe... and the AMERICAN people don't even truly realize this.

They think this is payback for 9-11.
9-11 was instead, the islamic version of pearl harbor... after minor incursions in the former yugoslavian state...

and despite toppling two countries since 9-11, we are no ways near eradication of the problem... because as a nation, to the very top level, WE are in denial... "Islam is Peace" don't you know?

Bush cannot declare war without being further painted as a WAR MONGER, which he absolutely abhors being labelled as... the sad truth is, we are in an escalating war that will end up killing billions. BILLIONS... whether Bush is president or not...

The only difference is, if we have a hawk for president, we might survive better than if we have a piece of crap for president, like hillary... SHE would get us all killed with her incompetance. Bush endangers us with the lie "islam is peace" clearly it is not.

Maybe after the election right?
After Turkey is overrun?
and the balkans?
and the saudis fall?
and the now ill egyptian president is overthrown in a coupe d'etat? replaced with an ayatollah from Iran?

I got lotsa questions.
I am getting no answers.. but I believe major escalation is underway... on a whole host of levels...

Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?
4 posted on 11/21/2003 4:03:39 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (robert... the rino... LWMPTBHFTOSTA....)
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To: Destro
Since the Indians have their own interests, their news articles can't always be trusted, especially on Pakistan.

But in this instance I think they are absolutely right. Bosnia was a training ground for Muslim terrorists. Not only that, unlike the earlier war in Afghanistan to expel the Soviet Union, it has NO national security value for the United States. Precisely the opposite.

Clinton worked closely with the two forces that are the biggest threats to the United States: Communist China and Islamic fundamentalism. He gave China MIRVed ICBMs and nuclear warheads. He gave the Muslims invaluable training in terrorism against the west.
5 posted on 11/21/2003 4:08:45 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

Yes, I've been saying so for a long time, since before clinton gave the orders to bomb Belgrade. The trouble started when clinton went into Bosnia to help the Muslims.

6 posted on 11/21/2003 4:10:41 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Destro
bump for truth
7 posted on 11/21/2003 4:10:48 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: Cicero; Robert_Paulson2
Robert_Paulson2: I got lotsa questions.

Another Indian, B Raman asked the following questions in his article: US after 9/11: None the wiser

Were they able to hoodwink the US agencies by projecting themselves as continuing allies of the US in its campaign against Saddam Hussein in Iraq and Slobodan Milosevic in Bosnia?

Did the HUM's role, found useful by the US, in training the jihadi opponents of Milosevic in Bosnia and Kosovo and participating in their jihad make the US agencies close their eyes to its burrowing into US homeland in preparation for taking the jihad to the US homeland?

8 posted on 11/21/2003 4:13:29 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Don't forget that Turkey has suffered terrorist attacks from the Chechens whom they supported against the Russians by giving some of those Mujahedins from Bosnia more training and sending them to Chechnya.

When Russia found out what Turkey was doing, they in turn started supporting Kurdish separatists:

Turkey and the Chechens

In November, 1994, when the Chechens appeared to be pushing the Russian forces out of Chechnya, the Turks began to receive committed Mujahedins from Bosnia, the Middle East, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran and train them in mountain guerilla warfare techniques, before turning them loose on the Chechen front. It appears that, around the same time, the Turks began to train Uzbek militants of the Erk party. The governments of both Uzbekistan and Russia complained about this, but Turkish officials fiercely denied the allegations.

The Russians could not believe their eyes. The primary reason they had ignored Turkey during their previous investigations was that any Turkish help for Chechen autonomists was seen as defying logic: a possible Chechen victory would encourage other violent independence movements in the Caucasus and beyond, including Abdullah Ocalan's PKK, Turkey's painful military thorn in Anatolia. Yet, it seemed that Turkish foreign policy officials had decided to take that risk, possibly in an attempt to push Russia out of the Caucasus oil fields.

Rather predictably, the Russians decided to respond by allocating resources to PKK and the other Kurdish independence factions, while letting Turkey know that they were doing so. They were hoping that increased Russian interest in the Kurdish dispute would scare off the Turks, who ever since the end of WWII had been particularly concerned about Soviet attempts to infiltrate the Kurdish movement and use it against US-supported Turkish influences in the Muslim-dominated territories of the USSR.

The expected reaction from Turkey came in 1996, when what was described as a 'conference', entitled "The History of Kurdistan" was held in Moscow, organized in partnership by the (PKK-controlled) Kurdistan Committee, the Kurdistan Liberation Front and the Russian Nationalities and Regional Policy Ministry. When the Turkish ambassador to Moscow complained, he was told that Russia would withdraw support from the Kurdish cause when it had firm evidence that Turkey had dropped its covert support for an independent Muslim Chechen republic.

Thus, this tit-for-tat game has been unfolding ever since. Turkey has been publicly condemning the violent tactics of Chechen paramilitaries, while at the same time assisting them, in an attempt to keep the strong Chechen lobby in Turkey happy. Indeed, the grass-roots support for the Chechen cause in Turkey should not be underestimated: it is claimed that there are today approximately 70,000 Chechens living in Turkey, while up to 10 million Turks trace their immediate ancestry to the Caucasus. Consequently, dozens of Chechen and other Caucasian solidarity associations are active throughout the nation.


9 posted on 11/21/2003 4:13:37 PM PST by joan
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To: XHogPilot
See #8
10 posted on 11/21/2003 4:14:37 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Cicero
>>Since the Indians have their own interests, their news articles can't always be trusted, especially on Pakistan.


I love it when conservatives, instead of judging a particular individual's viewpoint, trot out tired cliches and engage in the worst kind of silly collective judgement.

Since the Americans have their own interests, their news articles can't always be trusted, especially on Iraq.

Since the Israelis have their own interests, their news articles can't always be trusted, especially on Palestine.

11 posted on 11/21/2003 4:18:48 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Honorary Serb
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12 posted on 11/21/2003 4:19:49 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Angelus Errare
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13 posted on 11/21/2003 4:25:46 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I've been saying that since 1999. The Serbs were fighting then the same war we're fighting now!

14 posted on 11/21/2003 4:29:30 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I've been saying that since 1999. The Serbs were fighting then the same war we're fighting now!

15 posted on 11/21/2003 4:32:10 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I've been saying that since 1999. The Serbs were fighting then the same war we're fighting now!

16 posted on 11/21/2003 4:32:15 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Anybody else of the opinion that we backed the WRONG side of the Balkans conflict?

I, like many US citizens, through utter ignorance, initially supported our policy in the Balkans. I saw the conflict initially as a contest between good and evil. A contest between an evil oppessor and the oppressed. A secular conflict.

Like most US citizens I played a lot of historical, catchup ball as the conflict widened. The pattern that emerged was not secular but religious. The continuation of a religious conflict that stretched back to the middle ages.

Should we have opposed a totalitarian regiem, bent on genocide, in principal? Yes. Should we have developed the means for Islam to reach epidemic proportions? No.

My hindsight is 20/20.

17 posted on 11/21/2003 4:42:54 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: swarthyguy
So you are Indian? Are you just humble or in your native language (?) is "I" not capitalized? (I had to teach a Mexican student to capitalize her "I's" when she was learning English.)

I hope the questions aren't too personal; just wondering. I bug our Belarus, Afghani, Mexican, and Polish friends crazy with questions about THEIR homelands.
18 posted on 11/21/2003 5:17:08 PM PST by Maria S ("When the passions become masters, they are vices." Pascal, 1670)
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To: pgkdan
Yep!
19 posted on 11/21/2003 5:18:25 PM PST by Imperialist
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To: Amerigomag
Should we have opposed a totalitarian regiem, bent on genocide, in principal? Yes.

There was never any genocide in Kosovo, as alleged by Clinton, McCain and the dominant media. Never. Until now. Serbs have been sytematically murdered and intimidated into leaving Kosovo since our horribly misguided NATO bombing campaign. Churches are burned, ancient monestaries and convents are looted and burned...the religious living there murdered and raped. That's happening to Christians in Kosovo today. Where's the outrage?

20 posted on 11/21/2003 5:30:09 PM PST by pgkdan
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