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ANTHRAX POWDER - STATE OF THE ART?
Science ^ | 11/27/2003 | Gary Matsumoto

Posted on 11/27/2003 12:42:11 PM PST by TrebleRebel

When the anthrax mailers penned the message, "YOU CAN NOT STOP US. WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX," the threat included a chilling nuance that remains largely unrecognized. "ARE YOU AFRAID?" asked the attackers. "Yes," should have been the answer, according to some biodefense experts, who think that the anthrax spores mailed to Senators Thomas Daschle (D-- SD) and Patrick Leahy (D--VT) in the fall of 2001 represented the state of the art in bioweapons refinement, revealing telltale clues about the source. This view is controversial, however, because others dispute the sophistication of the Senate powder, and a schism now exists among scientists who analyzed it for the FBI.

One group, comprised mostly of microbiologists and molecular biologists, argues that this material could have been a do-it-yourself job, made by someone knowledgeable but with run-of-the-mill lab equipment on a modest budget. This contingent includes one well-known bioweaponeer, Ken Alibek, who defected from Russia to the United States in 1992.

The other faction thinks that the powder mailed to the Senate (widely reported to be more refined than the one mailed to the TV networks in New York) was a diabolical advance in biological weapons technology. This diverse group includes scientists who specialize in biodefense for the Pentagon and other federal agencies, private-sector scientists who make small particles for use in pharmaceutical powders, and an electronics researcher, chemist Stuart Jacobsen of Texas.

Early in the investigation, the FBI appeared to endorse the latter view: that only a sophisticated lab could have produced the material used in the Senate attack. This was the consensus among biodefense specialists working for the government and the military. In May 2002, 16 of these scientists and physicians published a paper in the Journal of the American Medical Association, describing the Senate anthrax powder as "weapons-grade" and exceptional: "high spore concentration, uniform particle size, low electrostatic charge, treated to reduce clumping" (JAMA, 1 May 2002, p. 2237). Donald A. Henderson, former assistant secretary for the Office of Public Health Preparedness at the Department of Health and Human Services, expressed an almost grudging respect: "It just didn't have to be that good" to be lethal, he told Science.

As the investigation dragged on, however, its focus shifted. In a key disclosure, U. S. Attorney General John Ashcroft revealed in August 2002 that Justice Department officials had fixed on one of 30 so-called "per sons of interest": Steven J. Hatfill, a doctor and virologist who in 1997 conducted research with the Ebola virus at the U. S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases in Fort Detrick, Maryland. (Hatfill has denied any involvement in the anthrax mailing.) Although the FBI did not spell out its theory, this announcement and leaks to the media from federal investigators indicated that the inquiry had embraced the idea that a lone operator or small group with limited resources could have produced the Senate anthrax powder.

This premise now appears to have run its course. In September 2003, the FBI's Michael Mason admitted that the bureau failed to reverse engineer a world-class anthrax powder like the Senate material and expressed regret that Hatfill had been called a "person of interest." One of the costliest manhunts ever conducted by federal investigators appears to be stymied. The FBI cannot or will not say whether the anthrax powder was foreign or domestic, expensively made or cheaply done, a professional job or the handiwork of an amateur.

But the scientific data amassed so far should provide a wealth of information on the weapon's possible origins, say scientists in the group with expertise in such powders. They argue that the most striking qualities of the Senate powder do not concern the anthrax spores but the way they were processed-- specifically, how they were given an electrostatic charge and unusual surface properties. If the Senate anthrax powder did in fact have these refinements, its manufacture required a unique combination of factors: a strain that originated in the United States, arcane knowledge, and specialized facilities for production and containment. And this raises the discomforting possibility that the powder was made in America, perhaps with the resources of the U.S. government.

Charged questions

There is no debating that the Senate powder was exceptionally pure and highly concentrated. Nor is there any doubt that it contained the Ames strain, one of the most virulent strains discovered. But what made it truly remarkable, according to biodefense specialists, was its conversion into a cutting-edge aerosol.

That transformation had as much to do with chemistry and physics as with microbiology. Anthrax spores cling to one another if they get too close; sticky chains of proteins and sugar molecules on their surfaces latch onto each other, drawn by van der Waals forces that operate at a distance of a few tens of angstroms. Untreated spores clump into larger particles that are too heavy to stay airborne or reach the narrowest passages in the lung.

To thwart this clumping, an earlier generation of biological weapons makers--operating out of Fort Detrick when it still made weapons--experimented with ways to prevent the surfaces of germs from getting too close. For example, William C. Patrick III, former chief of Fort Detrick's Product Development Division, pioneered the use of a dusty silica powder with nanometer-sized particles added to nonlethal incapacitating agents such as Francisella tularensis, the cause of tularemia (but not Bacillus anthracis, the cause of anthrax). "Otherwise," says Patrick, the powder was "very hard to disseminate."

In a separate research arena, pharmaceutical scientists in the 1990s began experimenting with adding electrostatic charges to small particles in medicinal powders designed for inhalation. Adding a like charge of sufficient strength creates an electrostatic field of up to a few centimeters, which makes particles repel one another, creating an "energetic" or self-dispersing powder.

Biodefense scientists say they became aware that such an innovation could be ap plied to germ-warfare powders with deadly effect, especially deadly because charged particles are more prone to lodge in the lung. Once in the lung, immune cells transport the spores to lymph nodes, where the spores germinate and cause infection. The Senate anthrax spores carried like electrical charges, and some experts believe that they were added deliberately to aid dispersal.

Was it a coincidence that this lethal innovation appeared in the anthrax spores sent to the Senate? Alibek thinks it is possible. The Senate anthrax could have acquired a charge from friction as the envelopes passed through mail-sorting machines. (Alibek also has speculated that the powders mailed to the Senate were more refined than those sent to the New York media and may have come from a different production run.) But his theory raises a question: Why would only the Senate powder acquire a charge from the sorting machines?

Jacobsen, a research chemist who coated sub--5-micrometer particles with silica while working on a program for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARYA), is skeptical of this idea. Jacobsen says that friction would add static electricity only to surfaces: "If anything, the sorting machine's pinch rollers and the envelopes should get charged," he says, "not the spores inside."

Glassy finish

More revealing than the electrostatic charge, some experts say, was a technique used to anchor silica nano-particles to the surface of spores. About a year and a half ago, a laboratory analyzing the Senate anthrax spores for the FBI reported the discovery of what appeared to be a chemical additive that improved the bond between the silica and the spores. U. S. intelligence officers informed foreign biodefense officials that this additive was "polymerized glass." The officials who received this briefing-- biowarfare specialists who work for the governments of two NATO countries-- said they had never heard of polymerized glass before. This was not surprising. "Coupling agents" such as polymerized glass are not part of the usual tool kit of scientists and engineers making powders designed for human inhalation. Also known as "sol gel" or "spin-on-glass," polymerized glass is "a silane or siloxane compound that's been dissolved in an alcohol- based solvent like ethanol," says Jacobsen. It leaves a thin glassy coating that helps bind the silica to particle surfaces.

Silica has been a staple in professionally engineered germ warfare powders for decades. (The Soviet Union added to its powders resin and a silica dust called Aerosil–a formulation requiring high heat to create nanoparticles, says Alibek. U. S. labs have tested an Aerosil variant called Cab-O-Sil, and declassified U. S. intelligence reports state that Iraq's chemical and biological warfare labs imported tons of both Cab-O-Sil and Aerosil, also known as "solid smoke," in the 1980s).

"If there's polymerized glass [in the Senate samples], it really narrows the field [of possible suspects]," says Jacobsen, who has been following the anthrax investigations keenly. "Polymerized glasses are exotic materials, and nanotechnology is something you just don't do in your basement."

By March 2002, federal investigators had lab results indicating that the Senate anthrax spores were treated with polymerized glass, and stories began to appear in the media. CNN reported an "unusual coating" on the spores, and Newsweek referred to a "chemical compound" that was "unknown to experts who have worked in the field for years." When Science asked the FBI about the presence of polymerized glass in the Senate powder, an FBI spokesperson said the bureau "could not comment on an ongoing investigation."

About-face

By the fall of 2002, the awe-inspiring anthrax of the previous spring had morphed into something decidedly less fearsome. According to sources on Capitol Hill, FBI scientists now reported that there was "no additive" in the Senate anthrax at all. Alibek said he examined electron micrographs of the anthrax spores sent to Senator Daschle and saw no silica. "But I couldn't be absolutely sure," Alibek says, "because I only saw three to five of these electron micrographs." Even the astonishingly uniform particle size of 1.5 to 3 micrometers, mentioned in 2001 by Senator Bill Frist (R-- TN), now included whopping 100-micrometer agglomerates, according to the new FBI description recounted by Capitol Hill aides. The reversal was so extreme that the former chief biological weapons inspector for the United Nations Special Commission, Richard Spertzel, found it hard to accept. "No silica, big particles, manual milling," he says: "That's what they're saying now, and that radically contradicts everything we were told during the first year of this investigation."

Military scientists did not back off their findings. The August/ October 2002 newsletter from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP) reported that a mass spectrometry analysis found silica in the powder sent to Senator Daschle (The AFIP Letter, August/ October 2002, p. 6). "This was a key component," said the institute's deputy director, Florabel Mullick, in the AFIP newsletter. "Silica prevents the anthrax from aggregating, making it easier to aerosolize," she added. Frank Johnson, chief of AFIP's Chemical Pathology Division, corroborated this in an interview. "There was silica there," said Johnson, "there was no mistaking it." Maj. Gen. John S. Parker, commander of the U. S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command at the time of the attacks, says he saw AFIP's lab reports. "There was a huge silicon spike" consistent with the presence of silica, he says. "It peaked near the top of the screen."

Other agencies support this view today. For example, John Cicmanec, a scientist with the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency, says the Department of Homeland Security confirmed to EPA that the perpetrators did, in fact, use silica to weaponize the Senate anthrax spores. According to an abstract that Cicmanec will present at the annual meeting of the Society for Risk Analysis next month, this weaponized form of anthrax is more than 500 times more lethal than untreated spores.

The contradictory military data compelled the FBI to do some explaining. Sources on Capitol Hill say that in an FBI background briefing given in late 2002, Dwight Adams, one of the FBI's top- ranking scientists, suggested that the silica discovered in the Senate anthrax was, in fact, silicon that occurred naturally in the organism's subsurface spore coats. To support his thesis, Adams cited a 1980 paper published by the Journal of Bacteriology-- a paper that Matthew Meselson, a molecular biologist at Harvard University, says he sent to the FBI. The authors reported that they found silicon, the element, in the spore coats of a bacterium called B. cereus, a close cousin of anthrax.

In the 23 years since the Journal of Bacteriology published these data, however, no other laboratory has published a report on significant amounts of silicon in the B. cereus spore coat, and many bacteriologists familiar with these data consider them an anomaly. Even the authors suggested the finding might have been due to "contamination."

In December 2002, the FBI decided to test whether a high-grade anthrax powder resembling the one mailed to the Senate could be made on a small budget, and without silica. To do this job, the bureau called upon Army scientists at Dugway Proving Ground, a desolate Army test range in southwestern Utah. By February 2003, the scientists at Dugway had finished their work. According to military sources with firsthand knowledge of this effort, the resulting powder "flew like penguins." The experiment had failed. (Penguins can't fly.)

Military sources say that Dugway washed and centrifuged the material four times to create a pure spore preparation, then dried it by solvent extraction and azeotropic distillation-- a process developed by the U. S. Chemical Corps at Fort Detrick in the late 1950s. It is not a simple method, but someone familiar with it might be able to jury-rig a lab to get the job done. As recently as 1996, Bill Patrick says he taught scientists at Dugway how to do this.

The FBI-Dugway effort produced a coarse powder. The spores--some dried under an infrared lamp and the others air-dried--stuck together in little cakes, according to military sources, and then were sieved through "a fine steel mesh." The resulting powder was placed into test tubes. When FBI officials arrived at Dugway to examine the results, a Dugway scientist shook one of the tubes. Unlike the electrostatically charged Senate anthrax spores that floated freely, the Dugway spores fell to the bottom of the test tube and stayed there. "That tells you the particles were too big," says Spertzel. "It confirms what I've been saying all along: To make a good powder, you need an additive."

Close to home

One doesn't have to look very far to find a powder that more closely resembles the Senate anthrax. The U. S. Army's newest batch of anthrax simulant is a closer match, made with B. globigii (BG) spores, which are similar to anthrax but nonlethal. According to military sources, the Danish company Chris- Hansen spray-dried the spores (along with an unidentified "additive") in Valby, a suburb of Copenhagen. Although the spore count varied somewhat from batch to batch, Chris-Hansen says that the average concentration was 500 billion spores per gram, about 100 times more concentrated than the Army's old BG powder. Chris-Hansen shipped the bulk material from Denmark to its New Berlin, Wisconsin, facility in 1996, where, according to Army instructions, it mixed silica into the powder-- a product sold commercially under the name Sipernat D 13. Sipernat D 13 is made by Germany's Degussa AG, the same company that makes Aerosil.

The initial Chris-Hansen production run wasn't exactly what the Army wanted, military sources say, so this batch of anthrax simulant was further enhanced at Dugway Proving Ground. An official at Chris- Hansen, speaking on condition of anonymity, says he doesn't know if the Army added an electrostatic charge or a coupling agent to the powder, and the Army won't discuss it. But unlike the powder that Dugway reverse engineered earlier this year, the most recent batch of simulant-- according to military sources-- has great "hang time."

A government scientist who had a sample of the Army's anthrax simulant described it for Science: When he shook a test tube filled with it, a dense fog of particles swirled to the top in roiling eddies. After 10 minutes, the powder still hadn't settled. This scientist observed two other marked similarities with the Senate material: "There appears to be a lot of static charge," he said. When he suspended the preparation in water, he saw mostly "single spores." When Canadian military scientists used this silica- laced simulant in 2001 to assess the risk from anthrax spores delivered by letter, the aerosol behaved like the one that would later contaminate Senator Daschle's office with real anthrax spores; the weaponized BG particles spread across a 50-cubic-meter room in less than 2 minutes.

This new batch of "energetic" simulant was light-years beyond the old U. S. weapon in its refinement, experts say. Divulging the specifications of the weapon, the last foreman in charge of drying and milling anthrax spores at Fort Detrick, Donald Schattenberg, told Science that the old U. S. anthrax powder contained no additives. "We didn't use silica or bentonite" (a clay that contains a high percentage of fine- particulate silica), says Schattenberg. "We made little freeze-dried pellets of anthrax," he says, "then we ground them down with a high-speed colloid mill." The resulting powder contained growth media residue (called "menstruum") and vegetative cells, making it less concentrated, according to William P. Walter, who says he worked on every batch of anthrax spores ever produced at Fort Detrick. This extraneous material accounted for a significant amount of the powder's volume and mass.

Orley Bourland, who once managed the entire operation, says the old weapon had no electrostatic charge and contained only 20 billion to 30 billion spores per gram. These facts were corroborated by more than half a dozen veterans of the former U. S. weapons program, including Edgar "Bud" Larson, who scoffs at the suggestion that the Senate powder was the product of a secret one-man operation. "I think that's very unlikely," Larson said. "I don't think anyone could make this product covertly."

So far, only Dugway Proving Ground has acknowledged making aerosols with Ames strain spores. According to a memorandum from U. S. Army Test and Evaluation Command dated 19 July 1995, Dugway began experiments with a liquid preparation of the Ames strain starting in February 1994. This was part of what the Army called "bioprofiling": an effort to "establish a 'library' of information," said the memo, to help defend against biological attack. In December 2001, The Baltimore Sun broke the story that Dugway had been making dried anthrax using live spores, and The Washington Post reported that Dugway used the Ames strain in its anthrax powders. Dugway released a statement acknowledging that its scientists have been doing this work to develop an "effective bioaerosol collection" but insisted that "All anthrax used at Dugway has been accounted for."

The Battelle Memorial Institute, a non-profit organization based in Columbus, Ohio, is possibly the only corporation in the world known to possess both the Ames strain as well as a "national security division" offering the services of a team of "engineers, chemists, microbiologists, and aerosol scientists supported by state-of-the-art laboratories to conduct research in the fields of bioaerosol science and technology." On its Web site, Battelle calls this research group "one-of-a-kind."

As subcontractors, Battelle scientists have made anthrax powders for use by the Army and U. S. intelligence agencies, but rarely by Fort Detrick, which specializes in vaccine development. Charles Dasey, spokesperson for the parent agency, the U. S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command, says that as far as he is aware, the only dried anthrax spores made at Fort Detrick since it stopped making weapons were made by Battelle scientists working there for DARPA. This material, made in a biosafety level 3 suite in the Diagnostic Systems Division, contained killed Ames strain at a concentration of 326 million spores per gramÑÑ several orders of magnitude less concentrated than the Senate powder and crude by current standards.

Battelle is capable of more sophisticated work, as it also makes one of the world's most advanced medicinal powders. Battelle's pharmaceutical division, BattellePharma, also in Columbus, is one of the few companies anywhere developing electrostatically charged aerosols for inhalation. BattellePharma's Web site boasts that the company's new "electrohydrodynamic" aerosol "reliably delivers more than 80% of the drug to the lungs in a soft (isokinetic) cloud of uniformly sized particles." Other powders, boasts the Web site, only achieve 20% or less.

None of this argues that Battelle or any of its employees made the Senate anthrax powder. But it is evidence that Battelle was a logical place to start looking for clues. Officials from Battelle and the Army declined to comment on any aspect of anthrax powder manufacture.

The FBI says it has interviewed and polygraphed scientists working at both Dugway and Battelle. No "person of interest" at either facility has been named, and no evidence has been made public indicating either as a point of origin.

A dose of reality

Today, there is no firm evidence to link Iraq-- or any other governmentÑÑ to the anthrax attacks. But some weapons experts such as Spertzel are still inclined to look for a sponsor with deep pockets, and they say Hussein's regime cannot be ruled out. Spertzel's main point, however, is that only a state-run facility or a corporation has the resources to make an anthrax powder as good as the one mailed to the Senate.

The amateur anthrax scenario appears to have lost some credibility with the failure of the FBI's attempt to reverse engineer a high-quality powder using basic equipment. If the Army couldn't do it in a top-notch laboratory staffed by scientists trained to make anthrax powders, skeptics ask, who could do it in a garage or basement?

The silica dust might still provide a trail to the killers, say chemists who specialize in silica. According to military sources, since the abandonment of the offensive biological warfare program, the U. S. Army has continued to experiment with various brands of silica nanoparticles added to germ-warfare powders produced in small quantities. These include WR-50 and WR-51 (manufactured by Philadelphia Quartz Co.), Cab-O-Sil (Cabot Corp.), and Sipernat D 13 (Degussa AG). Each brand is made differently, so each has a unique chemical signature, says Jonathan L. Bass, a Pennsylvania-based analytical chemist who used to do research with silica at PQ Corp. (formerly Philadelphia Quartz). "It'd be a laborious process, and some of the differences would be hard to detect," says Bass, "but if a known brand of silica was used by the killers, I think I could trace it back to a specific company." A coupling agent should also provide a unique chemical signature that could narrow the field.

Two years on from the attacks, public discussion of the silica additive has all but ceased; the discussion about polymerized glass has yet to occur. Instead, the FBI has devoted much of its effort to the idea that a low-budget amateur operation could have produced a "weaponized" form of anthrax powder without a sophisticated additive.

"ARE YOU AFRAID?" asked our unknown assailants 2 years ago. "Yes," is still the answer, but of whom?

GARY MATSUMOTO

Gary Matsumoto, an investigative journalist in New York City, is writing a book on biodefense.


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To: riri
I don't think Malvo knew SH** about anthrax and he didn't have to know anything, just trust Mohammed that that the penicillen would protect him. Muhammed would have had anthrax shots for Gulf War One and in fact, I think it was one of his gripes so he had some knowledge of it.

These two are so tight lipped about everything except what we saw visibly, I believe they planned on sacrificing themselves. They have that same stoic, almost catatonic expresssion as Atta.

There was a big bit on the spelling of Penicillen. However, I can't spell it right unless the bottle is in front of me. Someone did mention way back when that it was more of a spanish-like spelling and I don't know how close that would be to Jamaican.

61 posted on 11/28/2003 3:57:07 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: riri
I'm talking about Malvo/Muhammed as being the MAILERS ONLY. Interestingly, the profile said the perp would be familiar with New Jersey. Lo and behold, Mohammed purchases the car si miles from where the letters were mailed. Kinda like returning to the scene of the crime. Of all the car places in the states, he winds up there????????
62 posted on 11/28/2003 4:02:40 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Domestic Church; Badabing Badaboom; genefromjersey
Could that have been the hotel in Maine? I never heard from that woman again, did you Badabing?
63 posted on 11/28/2003 4:15:35 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Badabing Badaboom; genefromjersey; Shermy
Archived bookmarks expire in about an hour. Hope you can view this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a101017.htm
64 posted on 11/28/2003 4:57:46 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia; flutters
No not Maine. It might have been near the outer banks of the Carolinas or the eastern shore of Virginia right after the anthrax letters when folks were hoarding/taking that expensive antibiotic and we were all bug eyed from reading FR. I think the source was a local or city paper. The canister/can (soda can or cleanser can?) had enough anthrax to kill large numbers of folks. Did anyone collect the anthrax threads into an ongoing thread (similar to freeper Flutters SARs masterpiece ?)
65 posted on 11/28/2003 5:03:28 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG..)
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To: riri
Another thing is that Malvo started at the Florida school in AUGUST, about the same time that the plans for 9-11 were confirmed by the flight schedule.
66 posted on 11/28/2003 5:10:28 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Domestic Church
I was just scanning threads under an anthrax search. I didn't have enough info to narrow my search more. I wasn't here at FR then. I only joined a few months ago. I am going to scan more. Central/South eastern area interests me for a reason.

Be back after more searches.
67 posted on 11/28/2003 5:31:09 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Domestic Church
http://www.wral.com/news/1039573/detail.html

Fayetteville Hotel Employees, Guests Given Cipro As Precaution

7:48 p.m. EST November 2, 2001

FAYETTEVILLE, NC -- Firefighters and Haz-Mat crews wrapped up their investigation Friday night at the StudioPlus Deluxe Studios, where a sealed container found in one of the hotel's restrooms tested positive for anthrax.

Haz-Mat teams did an initial test on the container, which was found around 9:30 a.m. by an employee, who then brought it to his manager.

It is unclear whether the initial test on the substance was negative, or whether it was invalid due to an error. Haz-Mat workers did two more screenings of the substance, though, and both of those field tests came back positive for anthrax.

"The screening for positive is only about 20-30 percent accurate," says Fayetteville public information officer Jason Brady, "but we're not taking any chances."

WRAL Health Team Physician Dr. Allen Mask says the field tests the crews probably used are sensitive, but not specific. The tests will react to lots of different bacteria, and is not designed to respond to any particular strain. Click here to learn more about these tests.

In contrast, the test being done on the material in the state lab is very specific. That test involves a culture. Scientists take the substance, place it in a petrie dish, grow it, and then examine the results. Those results are nearly 100 percent accurate and are expected within 72 hours.

Until those tests results are available, no one can be sure whether the substance was anthrax, so the 20 hotel employees and guests were taken Friday afternoon to the Honeycutt Recreation Center, where they were quarantined for more than three hours and then given four days' worth of Cipro, an antibiotic used to fight anthrax.

The health department also collected their names, phone numbers, and medical histories.

The visitors and workers were returned to the hotel, but will have to get the OK from authorities before they can collect their belongings. They will be put up in a local hotel while StudioPlus remains closed for the weekend, with its ventilation system turned off.

Firefighters in protective suits searched the hotel for evidence, including one of the guest rooms. The room was registered to some people of Middle Eastern descent, and officials are not saying whether those customers were possible targets of an attack or suspects.

Police officers and sniffing dogs searched the cars in the parking lot, as well.

Fayetteville police will be guarding the hotel around-the-clock until the test results come back.

Officials say even if the container did contain anthrax, it is not contagious and there is no cause for Fayetteville residents to panic.

68 posted on 11/28/2003 5:40:48 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
Found the FR URL: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3be2fa710721.htm
69 posted on 11/28/2003 5:45:09 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
I read it. Now you KNOW there wasn't any 5 lbs of anthrax discovered !
70 posted on 11/28/2003 5:48:27 PM PST by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: genefromjersey; Domestic Church
***bows head in shame*** Actually I didn't know if that 5lb anthrax post was real or not. I was living in rural NC at the time of that article. I do believe that story/rumor was out before we had a satellite dish.

On the other hand, I find this interesting. That article Domestic Church had mentioned.

Robert Stevens, from The Sun? The first to die of Anthrax?

Do we know where he stayed on his business trip to NC? The containers found at that hotel in Fayetteville seem to coincide with Stevens trip there. What if that bathroom had a joining airvent to Stevens hotel room? Or something along those lines. If Stevens was on a business trip...it is NOT unlikely that he had a briefcase. Spores could have settled in an open briefcase. Papers brought back to The Sun could have contaminated his office. Maybe some papers were sent to the mailroom, that is how the mail clerk was exposed.

I'm looking to see if I can find an itinerary for stevens now.
71 posted on 11/28/2003 6:13:12 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
I'm pretty sure it was a fishing trip which is why they were considering anthrax that occurs in nature. He called home complaining of stomach pains.
72 posted on 11/28/2003 10:24:07 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: All
Please notice that the note said

WE have this anthrax

Reading a picture into it, someone is watching over the shoulder of the writer.

Because there are similarities between the anthrax letters and the sniper letters, I'm going back to look at the sniper letters so I can point them out.

73 posted on 11/28/2003 10:30:03 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
>>>I'm pretty sure it was a fishing trip which is why they were considering anthrax that occurs in nature.

What do you mean fishing trip? Steven's source of Anthrax? The cans that were found at the hotel?
74 posted on 11/28/2003 10:38:27 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: TrebleRebel
Thanks for the link!
75 posted on 11/28/2003 10:46:19 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: EdLake; _Jim; Badabing Badaboom; Shermy; pokerbuddy0; okie01; Mitchell; Allan; aristeides; ...
Very important stuff, should clear up any misconceptions or lies one final time. As someone mentioned in another thread, the tide is turning.

My name is Gary Matsumoto. I am the author of the Science magazine article published this week under the title: Anthrax Powder: State of the Art?

Over the past few days I have been alternately entertained and appalled by the emails of Mr. Ed Lake which have grown progressively more shrill with each passing day. Mr. Lake has been boorish and he is entitled to be a boor, but he has also been grotesquely inaccurate, and to the extent that he is trying to tell other people what to think on a matter of national security, he is obligated to make a minimal effort get his facts straight. As he seems to take that obligation lightly, I feel it is necessary to offer the following response.

The scientists who performed the electronmicroscopy and elemental analyses on the Senate anthrax powder have stated, on-the-record, that there was silica present;
Two of those scientists, Tom Geisbert and Peter Jahrling of the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), saw silica nanoparticles on the Daschle anthrax spores that looked, as author Richard Preston described it in his book, The Demon in the Freezer, "like fried-egg gunk, dripping off the spores";
There are several detailed descriptions of these silica nanoparticles in Preston's book. Although Geisbert and Jahrling have not been allowed to communicate with anyone other than Preston, Fort Detrick spokesperson, Caree Vanderlinden, told me that USAMRIID does not dispute the facts in Preston's book;
The 2001 Canadian military study, which assessed the risk posed by anthrax spores delivered by mail, used the U.S. Army's anthrax simulant that I described in my article. The Bacillus globigii spores were coated in silica nanoparticles; they also appeared to be energetic (without passing through a sorting machine, which has been cited as a potential source of static electricity), swiftly disseminating through a simulated office space in less than two minutes. The BG spore's energetic behavior was prima facie evidence of an electrostatic charge. The spore concentration reported by the Canadians (1x10^11/gram or 100+ billion spores/gram) tells you that they received the Army's newest batch of simulant made by Chris Hansen. According to military sources, the Army's older batch of simulant contained a much lower spore concentration (1-5x10^9/gram or 1 to 5 billion spores/gram); the older simulant stock also contained silica;
Mr. Lake is correct in saying that the simulant used in the Canadian study, donated by Dugway Proving Ground and treated with silica , behaved like the Daschle anthrax powder;
Dr. Matthew Meselson of Harvard has previously stated that he did not see silica nanoparticles on the Daschle spores as I described them in an October 2002 Washington Post article co-wrotten with Guy Gugliotta. This hairsplitting distinction may offer one possible explanation for the discrepancy between the Geisbert/Jahrling accounts, and those of Meselson/Alibek. In the Post article, Guy and I described an individual particle of CAB-O-SIL (a fumed silica) at a magnification of 350,000x, which is several hundred thousand times greater than the magnification employed to view, and photograph, a cluster of spores. As it is the molecular structure of a silica nanoparticle that make it an ideal dispersing agent, Guy and I deemed it necessary to provide, in words, a close-up view. At 350,000x, one can discern the ultrastructure of a single silica nanoparticle, but the surface of a spore would be completely obscured--the scanning distance would be too close. So, unless Meselson/Alibek were viewing electronmicrographs at this extreme magnification, they would not see what I described;
Individual silica nanoparticles can look different from CAB-O-SIL; it depends on how they were processed. Individual silica nanoparticles can be as small as 5 nanometers in diameter (smaller than a polio virus); agglomerates can appear as Preston describes them, like the "splatty goop or gunk" of a fried egg white;

The presence of silica is not determined by the visual examination of electronmicrographs. It is a determination made with laboratory instruments such as the Thermo-Noran Energy Dispersive X-Ray Fluorescence Spectrometer used by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology to analyze the Daschle spores. This instrument is precise and generates unambiguous data; Other instruments, equally precise, would be used to determine the presence of a silane coupling agent;
As I reported in my article, various news organizations reported the presence of an unidentified substance in the Senate powder, in addition to silica. In her book, The Killer Strain, Washington Post correspondent Marilyn Thompson said "the silica also appeared to contain a chemical additive to aid in bonding." My reportage is consistent with these accounts, and advances this particular part of the story;
The possible presence of silicon atoms embedded in the internal structures of Bacillus spores is irrelevant when it comes to making an aerosol. To make a refined aerosol, an additive needs to be on the surface of a spore's outer envelope (the exosporium) to block adhesiveness due to van der Waals forces and the Coulombic fields surrounding various point charges on a particle. The spore's internal structures could be drenched in naturally-occurring silicon atoms (assuming that such atoms do occur naturally), and those atoms would not prevent clumping, or make a spore more"aerogenic." Untreated spores do not behave like the Senate material or the U.S. Army anthrax simulant. They behave like the coarse, non-energetic powder produced by Dugway Proving Ground's reverse engineering attempts earlier this year, which was made, allegedly at the FBI's specific request, without an additive.;
There is another critical difference between the X-Ray microanalysis data in the 1980 J. of Bact. paper that reported silicon in the cortex and spore coats of B. cereus spores and the energy dispersive X-Ray fluorescence spectroscopy that detected silica on the surface of B. anthracis spores. The B. cereus spores were cryosectioned in order to detect elements inside of the bacilli. The J. of Bact. paper's "silicon map" shows the alleged location of the silicon atoms--"the cortex/coat." I have been told that the AFIP spectroscopy examined the surfaces of whole B. anthracis spores mailed to Senator Daschle.

In a separate email, Mr. Milton Leitenberg, argues that through syntactical contrivance I misled him, and others, into thinking that chemist, Dr. Stuart Jacobsen, was part of "the FBI reference group dealing with Amerithrax events." I respectfully disagree. I made no references whatsoever to this group in my article. Dr. Jacobsen was not a source for any information concerning the engineering specifications of the Senate powder, the U.S. Army simulant powder, or the dried anthrax made by the U.S. Army at Fort Detrick prior to the cancellation of the U.S. biological warfare program. Dr. Jacobsen provided expert comment on the coating of small particles with silica nanoparticles and a coupling agent, which he was eminently qualified to do as he engineered coated particles during a project for the U.S. Defense Department.

As Leitenberg correctly states, I told him some time ago that I would not disclose information that reveals how to engineer an anthrax powder. I understand his concern, and I take this specific criticism of my article quite seriously. I do not believe, however, that I published anything resembling a blueprint for a BW aerosol. No one could go out and make a refined anthrax powder based on my Science article.

Finally, Mr. Leitenberg suggests that "the parameters listed by the JAMA authors were a generic description of "weapons grade," material and not a description of the Amerithrax samples." Again, I disagree. The authors of the JAMA paper clearly state that the "parameters" in question (i.e.., "high spore concentration, uniform particle size, low electrostatic charge, treated to reduce clumping.") referred to material "such as that used in the 2001 attacks." In other words, those parameters did, in fact, describe the Senate powder. This interpretation is buttressed by the fact that at the time JAMA published this paper, May 2002, various government officials had already ascribed the above characteristics to the Senate powder in press conferences and other on-the-record briefings.

There is, in fact, no such thing as a "generic description" of weapons grade material, because no such material exists. The various anthrax weapons known to U.S. intelligence are heterogenous in composition and their characteristics. The specifications of the Senate powder, as I pointed out in my article, did not resemble the former U.S. weapon, which had a much lower spore concentration ... was lyophilized, milled and contained no additive. There are no known parameters for an Iraqi anthrax powder as no such powder has been discovered. Weapons inspectors have never recovered an Iraqi anthrax weapon, wet or dry. According to Dr. Richard Spertzel, UNSCOM inspectors have only found DNA from the Vollum 1B strain, but no samples from an actual weapon. In previous interviews that I have conducted with Dr. Ken Alibek, he said the anthrax powder produced by the former Soviet Union contained no electrostatic charge.

The Science article is the culmination of a year-long investigation. Several staff editors and correspondents reviewed it. The magazine also took the unusual step of having scientists critique the article, which is standard practice for peer-reviewed scientific papers, but not news articles. Five Ph.D. scientists who specialize in B. anthracis , biotechnology and molecular chemistry reviewed the article for publication. All endorsed the scientific content.

In general, I think it is a dubious practice to extrapolate occult meanings from an author's syntax, or to impute ulterior motives merely because an author reports facts that inconveniently skewer a pet theory. When in doubt, ask. The Science article is not a Dead Sea scroll. The authors, and his editors, are alive and willing to answer questions.

-Gary Matsumoto-

76 posted on 12/03/2003 12:41:29 PM PST by TrebleRebel (If you're new to the internet, CLICK HERE.)
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To: TrebleRebel; Shermy
That should blow them out of the water. I wonder if it will.
77 posted on 12/03/2003 12:45:49 PM PST by aristeides
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To: TrebleRebel
Great post.

This hairsplitting distinction may offer one possible explanation for the discrepancy between the Geisbert/Jahrling accounts, and those of Meselson/Alibek.

Mr. Matsumoto graciously supplies an "out."

78 posted on 12/03/2003 12:50:28 PM PST by Shermy
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To: aristeides
That should blow them out of the water. I wonder if it will.

I bet so.

79 posted on 12/03/2003 12:52:06 PM PST by Shermy
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To: TrebleRebel
Great response !!

Ed Lake is a nice guy, but seems to be assuming, because he owns a jack knife, he is competent to fence in the Olympics.

One of the reasons I dropped out of the discussion groups
was the degeneration of these groups into semantic excercises: how many anthrax spores can dance on the head of a press release , etc. - the written words of certain reporters being presented as "Tablets of the Law".

Ed did an excellent job on the geography of the mailings; but, like Meselsen attempting to deal with the reality of Soviet Biowarfare history, he seemed to get tangled in the web of homemade lab production ( as many of us did,thanks to the volumes of published dis-information .)

You may note I now speak of "dis-information", rather than mis-information. It's obvious (now !) a good deal of what has been published was fed to prominent writers to take them off the scent.

The anthrax used in the murders-by-mail was clearly produced in a sophisticated lab, using the very latest biowarfare methods.Only a few labs in the world are known (or strongly suspected) to have such facilities, and they are state-sponsored.

I realize the FBI - like all law enforcement agencies - likes to play its cards close to the vest; but I think the American people can handle a few simple truths. We have, after all,handled the barrage of lies !
80 posted on 12/03/2003 1:31:58 PM PST by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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