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Soros 'speculating against dollar'
Independent.co.uk (UK Telegraph) ^ | 28 November 2003 | Philip Thornton and Michael Jivkov

Posted on 11/28/2003 1:00:57 PM PST by shrinkermd

Pound surges to a five year high against US currency. Buffett also said to be betting against greenback

The pound surged against the dollar yesterday amid speculation that Warren Buffett and George Soros, the world's most famous speculators, are betting the US currency will plummet.

Sterling powered to a five-year high against the dollar for a second day as concerns over the US current account deficit continued to outweigh evidence of a rebounding economy.

Traders believe selling the dollar is a one-way bet, and some latched on to rumours that speculators were building "short" positions on the dollar - betting it will tumble in the coming months.

One hedge fund manager, who asked not to be named, said: "I have heard that both Soros and Buffett are shorting the dollar. There's a growing belief on Wall Street that the dollar is looking like a one-way bet downwards."

A spokesman for Mr Soros, who famously "broke" the Bank of England when the pound crashed out of the exchange rate mechanism a decade ago, said he never commented on speculation. Mr Buffett was unavailable for comment.

The surge in the pound to $1.7155, its strongest level since October 1998, was boosted after Merrill Lynch forecast the dollar would plunge a further 8 per cent by the end of next year.

Demand for the dollar has waned on concern the country will not attract enough capital to fund its record current account deficit, which is expected to break through 5 per cent of GDP this year.

In a massive revision to its forecast issued on the eve of yesterday's Thanksgiving holiday, Merrill Lynch said the pound would hit $1.85 - which would be its highest level since 1992.

The blue chip Wall Street bank said sterling would rise on signs of returning economic strength, rising interest rates and hope that the Government won't raise taxes before a 2005 election. But it warned that the surge in the pound would be short-lived as the concerns overhanging the UK - from a budget deficit, huge consumer indebtedness and a tight labour market - would come home to roost.

"Bubble trouble currencies such as the pound should continue to do well for now," it said. "But upsides in the currencies in these regions should end next year as tighter conditions threaten to burst credit bubbles and shape market expectations of lower rates."

Merrill Lynch expects the dollar to tumble to $1.33 against the euro, a drop of 12 per cent from yesterday's $1.19 value. But it cut its forecast for the euro to surge to 80p against the pound - a level that would smooth sterling's entry into the single currency - to 73p.

A surge in the pound against the dollar will be a boon for British tourists but could cause headaches for both businesses and the Bank of England.

Khuram Chaudhry, a strategist at Merrill Lynch, said: "UK investors may find company sales exposure to the US unfavourable in this scenario.A stronger domestic currency is likely to mean the Bank is less likely to raise interest rates aggressively." David Bloom, a global economist at HSBC who does not see the pound going much above $1.70, said any spike in the pound would be short-lived. "If you want to sell the dollar because you believe in the structural problems such as the current account deficit then you buy the pound but there's a downside because the UK is also looking a trade deficit, an indebted economy," he said.

"If you think those factors will cause the dollar to fall then the pound should fall as well."

He said the main beneficiary should be the euro, which has smaller deficits - despite the high-profile row over the stability and growth pact. He said HSBC was sticking with its historic forecast for a dollar-euro rate of $1.35.

Mr Bloom warned that if the pound were to fall it could tumble even further than the dollar as there would be little interest from other countries to prop it up


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buffet; declining; dollar; soros; speculation
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1 posted on 11/28/2003 1:00:57 PM PST by shrinkermd
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"I'm deeply saddened by Breaking News Abuse."
2 posted on 11/28/2003 1:02:16 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: shrinkermd
Yes He's betting on Dinars, that aider and abetter!!!!
3 posted on 11/28/2003 1:02:23 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: shrinkermd
Demand for the dollar has waned on concern the country will not attract enough capital to fund its record current account deficit, which is expected to break through 5 per cent of GDP this year.

Hmmm... the EU sanctions its member states for exceeding 3% of GDP.

Are the "3rd way" socialists more frugal?

4 posted on 11/28/2003 1:14:58 PM PST by StatesEnemy
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Hmmm... the EU sanctions its member states for exceeding 3% of GDP.

Except for France and Germany who can do whatever the heck they want.
5 posted on 11/28/2003 1:16:16 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: shrinkermd
Warren Buffett and George Soros, the world's most famous speculators

Soros is a speculator, Buffet is an investor.

6 posted on 11/28/2003 1:19:36 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Arkinsaw
Actually last I heard they were cyring Uncle, but the EU were still mulling it over... either way, I sure would like a Constitutional amendment that stipulated a cap.

Afterall, saddling the next generation with the indentured service of our debt is hardly fair.

7 posted on 11/28/2003 1:24:47 PM PST by StatesEnemy
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To: shrinkermd

Separated at birth?

8 posted on 11/28/2003 1:25:59 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: StatesEnemy
What they are talking about is the current account deficit, not the federal budget deficit. The budget deficit come from the feds borrowing money to run the government. The current account deficit is another animal altogether. It is created because we buy more foreign goods and services than we sell to other countries. No economy has been able to sustain a current account deficit for very long without some fairly severe consequences to those economies or their currency.
9 posted on 11/28/2003 1:31:37 PM PST by Orangedog
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Minor correction "No economy has been able to sustain a current account deficit of over 5% for very long without some fairly severe consequences to those economies or their currency.
10 posted on 11/28/2003 1:33:13 PM PST by Orangedog
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To: StatesEnemy
Afterall, saddling the next generation with the indentured service of our debt is hardly fair.

It's true that we should not saddle them with paying for our prescription drugs and other things non-beneficial to their future. But it is worth saddling them with debt on some things, like the war on terrorism and the like.

It does not bother me at all that I am paying interest on World War II debt. It does bother me that I am paying interest on somebody's medical care back in 1972.
11 posted on 11/28/2003 1:34:51 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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Afterall, saddling the next generation with the indentured service of our debt is hardly fair.

A bit late to worry about the next gereration already. Try, maybe, two generations out.

12 posted on 11/28/2003 1:42:53 PM PST by templar
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This article seems too "gloom and doom" to me. For an alternate and more positive approach see the excerpt below from the daily Schwab report.

"Weakness in the U.S. dollar is considered welcome relief by U.S. manufacturers, which have been battered by intense foreign competition as a fall in the greenback would be expected to raise the price of imports and make exports more competitive. In addition, a positive currency translation helps lift revenues and bodes well for the bottom line of U.S. multinational corporations. However, a rapid, destabilizing decline in the dollar may potentially have a negative impact on U.S. equities if capital inflows into the U.S. slow because foreign capital is needed to finance the trade deficit."

13 posted on 11/28/2003 1:54:01 PM PST by shrinkermd (i)
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To: shrinkermd
Buffett also said to be betting against greenback

Bold move on his part if true.

He is a shrewd business man obviously, however could this perceived speculation be politically motivated for personal gain?

14 posted on 11/28/2003 1:57:57 PM PST by EGPWS
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...However, a rapid, destabilizing decline in the dollar may potentially have a negative impact on U.S. equities if capital inflows into the U.S. slow because foreign capital is needed to finance the trade deficit."

Actually, that seems a bit gloomy and doomy to me.

15 posted on 11/28/2003 1:59:18 PM PST by templar
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To: shrinkermd
Dollar Declines to Record Low Versus Euro; Germany Unconcerned

Bloomberg
November 28, 2003


16 posted on 12/04/2003 7:44:00 AM PST by Richard Poe
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To: shrinkermd
The pound surged against the dollar yesterday amid speculation that Warren Buffett and George Soros, the world's most famous speculators, are betting the US currency will plummet.

I don't know Buffett's motivation for this but Soros' is to cause a negative shock to our economy. Reasonable stability of our economy is a national security issue. We should profile Soros' investments, find his biggest bets, and target them for losses. Break that f***er's back.

17 posted on 12/04/2003 7:55:15 AM PST by mikegi
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