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Mass. Bishops Slam Gay Marriage Ruling
Yahoo News ^ | November 30, 2003 | STEVE LeBLANC

Posted on 12/01/2003 6:07:08 AM PST by NYer

In a strongly worded letter to be read at Mass this weekend, the bishops also said the Supreme Judicial Court's mid-May deadline for the Legislature to rewrite marriage laws to provide benefits for gay couples is too rushed.

The bishops, among the leading opponents of the ruling, urged parishioners "to contact the governor and their state legislators to urge them to find a way to give our citizens more time to deal with this issue."

Boston Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley and Bishops Thomas Dupre, Daniel P. Reilly and George Coleman also complained that the state high court ruling promotes "divisions in society by villainizing as bigotry the legitimate defense of thousands of years of tradition.

"Marriage is a gift of God ... it is not just one lifestyle among many," the bishops wrote in the letter, which was published in the Boston Archdiocese's newspaper, The Pilot.

Gary Buseck, executive director of Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, said the letter's language disappointed him.

"I don't think the court villainizes anyone. The Roman Catholic Church is being very clever to try to cast themselves as the victim here," Buseck said.

David Wilson, one of the plaintiffs in the case that led to the ruling, said the bishops are confusing civil and religious marriage. The court ruling will not require any religion to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies.

State Rep. Philip Travis, who supports amending the state constitution to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, said the May deadline won't change unless the court re-enters the case. The earliest such an amendment could go to voters is November 2006.

A spokeswoman for Gov. Mitt Romney, who also supports the proposed amendment, declined comment on Saturday.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: catholicbishops; gaymarriage; gayunions; goodridge; homosexual; homosexualagenda; prisoners; samesexmarriage
MASSACHUSETTS CATHOLIC CONFERENCE
BISHOPS’ STATEMENT
DATE: To Be Read At All Weekend Masses November 29-30, 2003

The recent ruling of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court which radically redefines marriage is a national tragedy. By their action the justices who have decreed this have set the stage to erode even further the institution of marriage as a human reality which the State should protect and strengthen for the good of society.

We hope that all citizens will come to recognize what is at stake and work to ensure that marriage as the fundamental institution of society will be safeguarded. The misguided decision has also served to promote divisions in society by villainizing as bigotry the legitimate defense of thousands of years of tradition.

It is not the intention of the Catholic community to infringe on the civil rights of homosexuals or anyone else. Our opposition to a redefinition of marriage is to safeguard the institution of marriage for future generations. Marriage is a gift of God which in its natural order allows for the growth of the human family and society. It is not just one life-style choice among many. The generations to come are the ones whose rights are being violated by the Court. Changing the definition of marriage in the long run will seriously harm family life. The deleterious effects of the court’s ruling are compounded by the directive to implement its decision in 180 days. This time frame is a sure formula for chaos. It denies the citizens of Massachusetts any real opportunity to respond reasonably.

Every effort must be made to extend the stay beyond the 180 days mandated by the court.
Ultimately, we advocate a constitutional amendment that reaffirms marriage as the union between one man and one woman. Thirty-seven states have already enacted legislation to protect the definition of marriage. We ask everyone to contact the Governor and their state legislators to urge them to find a way to give our citizens more time to deal with this issue.

In the coming weeks, our diocesan newspapers, the Massachusetts Catholic Conference through its website and MCC-Net alerts, and your church bulletins will provide more information about the ways you can help. It is vital to stay informed.

Archdiocese of Boston—Dioceses of Fall River, Springfield, Worcester

This is a serious challenge that confronts us. Thank you for listening and may God continue to bless you.

1 posted on 12/01/2003 6:07:09 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
"Marriage is a gift of God ... it is not just one lifestyle among many,"

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2 posted on 12/01/2003 6:09:59 AM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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To: NYer
Funny how the people of Massachusetts are upset with the policies of the people they keep sending to Washington (Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, etc.)
3 posted on 12/01/2003 6:10:40 AM PST by 2banana
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To: NYer
I wonder if anybody who was involved in granting a Kennedy divorce annulment signed on to this defense of the Sanctity of Marriage[tm].
4 posted on 12/01/2003 6:25:00 AM PST by steve-b
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To: NYer
I was looking for a statement that Catholics must not vote for candidates supporting gay marriage.

Did I miss it?
5 posted on 12/01/2003 7:10:28 AM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: NYer
"I don't think the court villainizes anyone. The Roman Catholic Church is being very clever to try to cast themselves as the victim here," Buseck said.

The homosexuals have absolutely no idea how seriously ill they are. They're in gross denial. They'll never get it until they're on their death bed being eaten away from some vile homosexual disease, and some still won't get it even then.
They think they're normal, and the other 99% of the world is ill. I want to shake them and tell them to wake up! There's no way an entire country should change anything simply to please a few with an twisted type sex fetish.
There are all kinds of sexually dysfunctional people in the world. Should a shoe fetishist marry a shoe? A gay pedophile marry a toddler? A man a beast? Where does it end?

6 posted on 12/01/2003 7:39:43 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It
I was looking for a statement that Catholics must not vote for candidates supporting gay marriage.

An excellent point!

Faithful Citizenship: A Catholic Call to Political Responsibility

7 posted on 12/01/2003 7:39:55 AM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It
I was looking for a statement that Catholics must not vote for candidates supporting gay marriage.

They're working on holding politicians who claim to be catholic accountable. If they're pro-sodomy, pro-death, etc. , the church is threatening to toss them out. So far, it's talk. Doing it is another story. I'd like to see it happen.

8 posted on 12/01/2003 7:44:27 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: NYer
A refreshingly direct and timely response. Sounds like some bishops are beginning to get it.
9 posted on 12/01/2003 7:58:57 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: NYer
David Wilson, one of the plaintiffs in the case that led to the ruling, said the bishops are confusing civil and religious marriage. The court ruling will not require any religion to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies.

This is the trojan-horse argument that has some otherwise conservative commentators backing this nonsense. It appears to offer them honorable ground from which they can pretend to be supporting both sides at once.

The problem is, of course, that there is no such thing as a "civil marriage", and more than there is such a thing as a "religious marriage." There is simply marriage. Period. Either one is married or one is not.

The fact that one person's marriage was performed by a judge and another's by a priest is not an important distinction. When your five year old child is forming their impressions about what constitutes a family, they're not going to go around asking about judges and priests. They're going to ask about mommies and daddies. Confuse such a basic issue of family for the children, and you'll likely end up with a breakdown of the family unit when those children grow up.

That's how the institution of marriage is passed down from one generation to the next, and that's why people monkeying around with it for their own gratification is so damaging. They're chipping away at a social norm that is the basis of Western society.

10 posted on 12/01/2003 8:26:53 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: NYer
Well, this cuts it! And hooray for bishops who can show a little guts! After my church (EUSA) abandoned its sacramental duty in a show of moral cowardice and elected the first openly gay coadjutar bishop of New Hampshire's Diocese; I'm seriously considering converstion to Roman Catholicism!
11 posted on 12/01/2003 8:47:52 AM PST by meandog ("Do unto others before they do unto you!")
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To: NYer; *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; ...
Marriage is a specific lifestyle involving one man and one woman.

Those who advocate homosexual marriage on this forum do so out of ignorance of what the experts say. That is, environment is the major factor in determining homosexuality. The fact that environment is the major factor in determining homosexuality is strengthened by the fact that thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.

It makes no sense to base rights on a behavior that results in severe health hazards, hazards that are contagious through the exchange of bodily fluids such as blood, and hazards that are deadly. Hazards that will not change with homosexual marriage because AIDS targets homosexual behavior.

Do supporters of homosexual marriage hate homosexuals to the point that they want to kill them off by encouraging a contagious and deadly lifestyle? I would hope not.

Apparently those who apppose the homosexual lifestyle are the only true friends homosexuals have.

12 posted on 12/01/2003 9:54:13 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It

Doctrinal Note on Some Questions
Regarding the Participation
of Catholics in Political Life
A Synopsis

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
Importance and current validity of the document
"Doctrinal Note on some questions regarding the
participation of Catholics in political life"


13 posted on 12/01/2003 9:57:35 AM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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14 posted on 12/01/2003 10:21:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Sore@US, the Evil Daddy War bucks, has owned the Demonic Rats for decades!)
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To: steve-b
I wonder if anybody who was involved in granting a Kennedy divorce annulment

Why would that be a problem?

15 posted on 12/01/2003 11:13:46 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: NYer
In a strongly worded letter to be read at Mass this weekend

My priest blew it off. I'll have to have a word with him. I'd like to change parishes, but my daughters have a lot of friends here.

16 posted on 12/01/2003 11:16:03 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: meandog
I'm seriously considering converstion to Roman Catholicism!

The sides are being drawn, more clearly than ever.

17 posted on 12/01/2003 11:20:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Snuffington
The problem is, of course, that there is no such thing as a "civil marriage", and more than there is such a thing as a "religious marriage." There is simply marriage. Period. Either one is married or one is not.

It makes a big difference whether a marriage is recognized by the state. As was pointed out on another thread, marriage is a special kind of social partnership that has the official sanction of the government. Social partnerships that do not have the official sanction of the government are nothing more than friendships or acquaintanceships.

To the extent that people subscribe to moral views that place high value on the mother-father family and encourage spousal fidelity, there is little need for government intervention. But what happens when prevailing moral view denigrates the mother-father family and encourages infidelity, abortion, and transient couplings that leave children bereft of a stable male-female complementary family structure? Ought not the state seek to implement laws wisely and narrowly designed to reward and enhance the mother-father partnership and preserve the family from encroachment and attack?

18 posted on 12/01/2003 12:00:40 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: meandog
After my church (EUSA) abandoned its sacramental duty in a show of moral cowardice and elected the first openly gay coadjutar bishop of New Hampshire's Diocese; I'm seriously considering converstion to Roman Catholicism!

"11. The Catholic Church teaches that respect for homosexual persons cannot lead in any way to approval of homosexual behaviour or to legal recognition of homosexual unions. The common good requires that laws recognize, promote and protect marriage as the basis of the family, the primary unit of society. Legal recognition of homosexual unions or placing them on the same level as marriage would mean not only the approval of deviant behaviour, with the consequence of making it a model in present-day society, but would also obscure basic values which belong to the common inheritance of humanity. The Church cannot fail to defend these values, for the good of men and women and for the good of society itself."

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS

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19 posted on 12/01/2003 12:13:29 PM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It; concerned about politics
I was looking for a statement that Catholics must not vote for candidates supporting gay marriage.

You should find the following statement more specific and direct.

IV. POSITIONS OF CATHOLIC POLITICIANS
WITH REGARD TO LEGISLATION IN FAVOUR
OF HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS

10. If it is true that all Catholics are obliged to oppose the legal recognition of homosexual unions, Catholic politicians are obliged to do so in a particular way, in keeping with their responsibility as politicians. Faced with legislative proposals in favour of homosexual unions, Catholic politicians are to take account of the following ethical indications.

When legislation in favour of the recognition of homosexual unions is proposed for the first time in a legislative assembly, the Catholic law-maker has a moral duty to express his opposition clearly and publicly and to vote against it. To vote in favour of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral.

When legislation in favour of the recognition of homosexual unions is already in force, the Catholic politician must oppose it in the ways that are possible for him and make his opposition known; it is his duty to witness to the truth. If it is not possible to repeal such a law completely, the Catholic politician, recalling the indications contained in the Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitae, “could licitly support proposals aimed at limiting the harm done by such a law and at lessening its negative consequences at the level of general opinion and public morality”, on condition that his “absolute personal opposition” to such laws was clear and well known and that the danger of scandal was avoided(18) This does not mean that a more restrictive law in this area could be considered just or even acceptable; rather, it is a question of the legitimate and dutiful attempt to obtain at least the partial repeal of an unjust law when its total abrogation is not possible at the moment.

20 posted on 12/01/2003 12:22:45 PM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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To: Aquinasfan
Ask him if he has so little respect for the bishop and for the Vatican why you should have any respect for him.
21 posted on 12/01/2003 12:28:52 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: JCEccles
It makes a big difference whether a marriage is recognized by the state.

I fully agree. I think all healthy societies do recognize marriage, and those who don't are headed for huge social trouble.

My point was that state recognition of marriage and religious recognition of marriage are inextricably linked. It makes no sense to support gay "civil marriage" on the one hand, and hetero-sexual only "religious marriage" on the other. The end result is a society in which gay marriage is accepted as normal, and opposition is viewed to be as irrelevant as a remote sectarian dispute.

22 posted on 12/01/2003 1:52:56 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: NYer
**Boston Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley and Bishops Thomas Dupre, Daniel P. Reilly and George Coleman also complained that the state high court ruling promotes "divisions in society by villainizing as bigotry the legitimate defense of thousands of years of tradition.**

Yeah for these stand up men!
23 posted on 12/01/2003 5:12:47 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church

1660 The marriage covenant, by which a man and a woman form with each other an intimate communion of life and love, has been founded and endowed with its own special laws by the Creator. By its very nature it is ordered to the good of the couple, as well as to the generation and education of children. Christ the Lord raised marriage between the baptized to the dignity of a sacrament (cf. CIC, can. 1055 § 1; cf. GS 48 § 1).


1625 The parties to a marriage covenant are a baptized man and woman, free to contract marriage, who freely express their consent; "to be free" means:

- not being under constraint;

- not impeded by any natural or ecclesiastical law.




24 posted on 12/01/2003 5:13:29 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
When these guys put their money where their mouths are -- by speaking out to make divorce illegal -- I'll listen to them.

A 43% or so divorce rate is not caused by gay marriage. They should stop throwing stones.
25 posted on 12/01/2003 5:20:05 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: RobbyS
Ask him if he has so little respect for the bishop and for the Vatican why you should have any respect for him.

He's a cafeteria priest, unfortunately. Give him an inch and he takes a mile. Raised in the '60s...

26 posted on 12/02/2003 5:19:14 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
Then let him know him they have a better cafeteria over at the ECUSA. ((:-)+
27 posted on 12/02/2003 7:00:43 AM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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