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Florida State Attorney Persecuting Rush Limbaugh is Democrat--Liberal Media Not Telling.
JosephCamhi

Posted on 12/05/2003 1:42:39 AM PST by j.cam

Funny how the partisan Democratic, liberal journalists in the AP and the rest of the liberal media are not pointing out that the man who is going after Rush Limbaugh, Barry Krischer, the Florida State Attorney of the Fifteenth Judicial Circuit (which includes Palm Beach County), is a Democrat. The liberal media are letting people assume that because the Florida Attorney General, Charlie Crist, is a Republican, and because Governor Jeb Bush is a Republican, the Florida State Attorney for Palm Beach, who is going after Limbaugh, is also a Republican.

We saw the liberal media do the same thing during the Democrat Gary Condit’s scandal. Before the liberal media were exposed by conservative media like Rush and the Media Research Center, the liberal journalists were leaving out Condit’s political affiliation and implying he was a conservative Republican. According to the MRC:

"Normally, a 'Republican' or 'Democrat' label is presented nearly every time a member of Congress is cited, as in 'Rep. Gary Condit (D-CA).' But since May, the three broadcast networks have practically erased the 'D' from Condit’s political identity, detaching the scandal-plagued politician from the rest of his party.

"From May 14, when Chandra’s mother, Susan, appeared on Good Morning America to plead for her daughter’s safe return, through July 11, ABC, CBS and NBC morning and evening news programs aired a total of 179 stories about Gary Condit — 121 full-length reports or interviews, plus 58 brief anchor-read items. MRC researchers reviewed each story, and found that Condit was labeled a 'Democrat' only 14 times, or in fewer than eight percent of stories. Six of those labels, or almost half, came paired with adjectives such as 'conservative' or 'right-wing' which distinguished Condit from other members of his party." http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/reality/2001/fax20010712.html

There is no sign of Krischer's political affiliation when the liberal media discuss his persecution of Rush.

Even ultra-liberal attorney Alan Dershowitz states that people are not prosecuted for what Limbaugh did. On October 10, 2003 on CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Report, Dershowitz told the liberal Wolf: “generally people who illegally buy prescription drugs are not prosecuted where as people who illegally buy cocaine and heroin are prosecuted.” http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0310/10/wbr.00.html

Dershowtiz added that Rush should not be singled out: “don't single him [Rush] out.” http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0310/10/wbr.00.html

The persecution of Rush Limbaugh is another Democratic witch hunt, just like when the Democrats put Linda Tripp on trial after the Clinton scandal even though they had no case against her: http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=1999/12/14/51514

They indicted Tripp on July 30, 1999 persecuted her for about 10 months, and then dropped the case on May 24, 2000 because they had no case.

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1 posted on 12/05/2003 1:42:40 AM PST by j.cam
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To: j.cam
Barry Krischer, the Florida State Attorney of the Fifteenth Judicial Circuit (which includes Palm Beach County), is a Democrat.

Krischer is still a member of the New York bar. And we all know there's absolutely no one in New York who has an axe to grind when it comes to Rush.

2 posted on 12/05/2003 2:07:36 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: j.cam
Nice research. Maybe you should have posted it later in the day when everyone else can see it.
3 posted on 12/05/2003 2:08:41 AM PST by GulliverSwift (Howard Dean is the Joker's insane brother.)
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To: j.cam
Hmmm...interesting. BTTT.
4 posted on 12/05/2003 2:29:29 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: j.cam
Well, I have no doubt Rush is being targeted for his views. But did he break the law? There were allegations of threats to the housekeeper, and of his illegally obtaining the drugs. Now, good law or bad, good man or bad, if he broke the law, he needs to pay the price, irrespective of other motivations on the part of the prosecutors.

To insist on less would be hypocritical.

5 posted on 12/05/2003 2:47:43 AM PST by Cacophonous (War is just a racket.)
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To: j.cam
States Attorney Barry Krischer Endorses Lois Frankel for Mayor of West Palm Beach. This is a particularly critical time for the City .

The above comes from a google search page and that is what is linked.

LINK

Ms. Frankel I believe was also the demo leader in the Fla. House during the attempted theft of the election by Gore in 2000.

6 posted on 12/05/2003 2:59:30 AM PST by Dane
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To: Cacophonous
>>To insist on less would be hypocritical.

I agree...there is enough smoke here to at least assume there may be a fire someplace...if he broke the law, he should be investigated (and possibly charged) just like anyone else.

It remains to be seen if the prosecutor will be enough to garner enough evidence to actually charge Rush. If he gets charged, you can be there is a lot of bad stuff coming out; I doubt very much any prosecutor would take on such a high profile case against a man with enormous resources to defend himself unless the he felt there was a decent chance of a guilty finding. Politics aside, no prosecutor wants to bring, and then loose, a high profile case.
7 posted on 12/05/2003 3:00:17 AM PST by cpst12
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To: Cacophonous
You mentioned "allegations" and then the rest of your statements tried, convicted and sentenced Rush.

Amazing.
8 posted on 12/05/2003 3:06:15 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: j.cam
Seems to me, if I were Rush, I'd want the entire matter thoroughly investigated and brought into the open.

Then if the accusations are false, it will be on the record.

If they are not false and wrong doing is found, then he should not be above the law.

9 posted on 12/05/2003 3:18:55 AM PST by dawn53
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To: GulliverSwift
Thanks. We can always bump it later in the day.
10 posted on 12/05/2003 3:33:36 AM PST by j.cam
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To: j.cam
...Limbaugh, is also a Republican.

Probably a small matter but Rush is a conservative and not a "Republican." He has stated this several times. Like most conservatives, he votes Republican because, unfortunately, it is the only option right now.

12 posted on 12/05/2003 3:41:32 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Fledermaus
Oh grow up. I said if he broke the law, he needs to pay the price. You have a problem with that?
13 posted on 12/05/2003 3:45:49 AM PST by Cacophonous (War is just a racket.)
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To: Dane
Ms. Frankel I believe was also the demo leader in the Fla. House during the attempted theft of the election by Gore in 2000.

Yes she was. She's a 1st class, grade-A leftist wench too.

14 posted on 12/05/2003 3:49:31 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: Cacophonous
I do have a problem with that if it is an bad, unenforced law that is only being enforced because of Limbaugh's politics. That is political persecution. I don't see how anyone can support that.
15 posted on 12/05/2003 3:50:38 AM PST by j.cam
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To: j.cam
Bump. Nice work.
16 posted on 12/05/2003 3:55:18 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: j.cam
Nice work. Even Dershowitz sees what's going on. THAT is a surprise.
17 posted on 12/05/2003 3:58:29 AM PST by onyx
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To: cpst12
Let's face it...the goal of this RAT witch hunt isn't to put Limbaugh away, just trash him before the election season and try and develop a moral equivilency between Conservatives and RATS.

The is Clinton Politics of Personal Destruction.

18 posted on 12/05/2003 3:58:53 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: j.cam
That's a different objection from your earlier one, where you falsely accused me of being judge, juror and executioner. Please get your hysterical outrages in order.

As far as the unjustness of the law - if there even is a violation (I know little about Florida drug laws and less about Rush's case), it would be hypocritical to pretend it doesn't apply because of who the defendent is; we would both, I think, insist on the same treatment for a Kennedy.

If it is bad law, any prosecutions will be overturned anyway. And if it is bad law, it can be repealed. If it is NOT bad law, than those guilty of violating it - and I emphasize I'm not saying Rush did violate any laws - should suffer the consequences.

The local radio station plays a short clip from Rush's return after his rehab stint, where he says - and I'm paraphrasing - that his behavior has nothing to do with what is right and what is wrong. Even if he is guilty, he says, of hypocrisy because of his past statements on drug abuse and abusers, it doesn't make what he said wrong.

He himself said it exactly right.

19 posted on 12/05/2003 4:04:41 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: j.cam
Hang on now, this might turn out to be good. In taking on Rush, they are taking on a guy with 18 million supporters, a man with fantiastic amounts of money to spend, a man with archives with more dirt on liberals than most of us can even imagine, a man who is intellignent, articulate and not to be taken lightly.

My guess would be that the leftsit will wish they ahd left Rush alone. He used to tear them up when he was on drugs, now his mind is clear, clear as a bell, stand back and watch the fun. The leftist are having their feild day now, but in a war, there are many battles and counter attacks, ....

My money is on Rush.

20 posted on 12/05/2003 4:33:29 AM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
I agree with you on that analysis and prediction.
21 posted on 12/05/2003 4:44:22 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: Cacophonous
You say: “That's a different objection from your earlier one, where you falsely accused me of being judge, juror and executioner. Please get your hysterical outrages in order.”

You obviously have me confused with someone else who replied to you with the above.

You say: “As far as the unjustness of the law - if there even is a violation (I know little about Florida drug laws and less about Rush's case), it would be hypocritical to pretend it doesn't apply because of who the defendant is; we would both, I think, insist on the same treatment for a Kennedy.”

I clearly stated that if the law is bad, and if it is normally unenforced, it is wrong to enforce the law on Rush simply because of his politics, even if the law is on the books. That is called political persecution since the law is only being enforced because of the politics of the person. What part of that do you have trouble understanding? Would you like me to repeat it again? And you are wrong about my opinion on the Kennedys. It would be wrong to politically persecute a Kennedy simply because he is a liberal Democrat. If one of the Kennedys in California had uncle Teddy from Massachusetts over for dinner, it would be wrong to arrest that Californian Kennedy for harboring a weasel. Even though harboring weasels is illegal on the books in California, it is law that is never enforced, and it would be wrong to enforce that law on a Kennedy simply because he is a liberal Democrat with a weasel for an uncle.

You say: “If it is bad law, any prosecutions will be overturned anyway. And if it is bad law, it can be repealed. If it is NOT bad law, than those guilty of violating it - and I emphasize I'm not saying Rush did violate any laws - should suffer the consequences.”

Even if it is enforced against no one else??? Aren’t you being silly?

22 posted on 12/05/2003 5:45:26 AM PST by j.cam
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To: j.cam
I knew he was a Rat as soon as I heard that he was from Palm Beach.
23 posted on 12/05/2003 5:49:52 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The liberal media is relying on the fact that most people aren't as politically astute as you.
24 posted on 12/05/2003 5:57:46 AM PST by j.cam
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To: j.cam
Why do I have this feeling that somebody like Florida Governor Jeb Bush might have an interest in this case?

He might want to know if the Palm Beach County and Florida state prosecutors have been doing this case using hush money from the Democratic National Committee. If it is, this could result in a number of prosecutors wondering why they're a target of both state AND Federal investigations on why they are going after Rush.

25 posted on 12/05/2003 6:08:09 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Blood of Tyrants


Barry Krischer, Democrat, Palm Beach Co. Prosecutor
26 posted on 12/05/2003 6:09:26 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: RayChuang88
Those icons are very very funny. LOL.
27 posted on 12/05/2003 6:09:59 AM PST by j.cam
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To: j.cam
I did confuse you with another poster and for that I apologize.

We are in a state, I think, of violent agreement. Regarding the Kennedys, I would want the same law applied to them as to Rush and to Joe Sixpack irrespective of other considerations. Obviously if it is being selectively applied, then the problem is not necessarily with the law but with the prosecutors. And yes, that does qualify as political persecution. But selective application of a law doesn't make it a bad law in and of itself.

As to the specifics of the law in Florida - and how it is (un)enforced - I am no expert. But nothing erodes trust faster than hypocrisy, so we have to make sure we don't give media enough ammo to start screaming "hypocrisy", and we know they will, given the smallest opening.

Personally, I think the prosecution will, within a few weeks, quietly drop the case. Rush is not stupid, and has a backbone, has an enormous popular following, and has the ability to hire top-drawer legal counsel. It's a no-win situation for the prosecution.

28 posted on 12/05/2003 6:10:31 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: j.cam
Did you all hear the report on FOXNews this morning? They said Rush received prescriptions for 2000 pills over 6 months. I did the math and that's roughly 1 pill every 4 hours. This is hardly an unusually high amount of pain killers.
29 posted on 12/05/2003 6:13:34 AM PST by ShandaLear
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To: Cacophonous
"Now, good law or bad, good man or bad, if he broke the law, he needs to pay the price, irrespective of other motivations on the part of the prosecutors. To insist on less would be hypocritical.

What planet do you come from??

What about littering?? Driving while using a cell phone or without a seat belt?

Protection from abuse statutes?? Code violations? Business license infractions??

In reality, law enforcement ignores lawbreakers every day, depending on the prosecutor's own particular take on what should and shouldn't be enforced.

Some prosecutors are against the death penalty, and therefore will not bring a capital case to court. Some prosecutors are big anti drug enforcers - and usually people know whose those particular prosecutors are.

If this thing with Rush is what it sounds, this is the biggest bogus waste of time going, and this coming from someone who is sort of anti-illegal drugs.

30 posted on 12/05/2003 6:15:30 AM PST by Edit35
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To: j.cam
BTTT
31 posted on 12/05/2003 6:15:31 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: AAABEST
And Verrrrrr....y Ugly Too.
32 posted on 12/05/2003 6:17:13 AM PST by DarthVader (I hate all liberal Democrats with a perfect hatred (especially Hillary))
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To: Cacophonous
I always thought this was bad law even before Rush was charged. Someone who becomes addicted to drugs due to pain management should not be prosecuted, but should be hospitalized.

In addition, the "War on Drugs" has made it a living hell for doctors to manage pain in this country.

Whether the law is good or bad, selectively applying the law on someone because of his politics is wrong.

33 posted on 12/05/2003 6:17:34 AM PST by j.cam
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To: ShandaLear
That is an excellent take on it. It sounds horrible when they report on it in bulk.
34 posted on 12/05/2003 6:19:27 AM PST by j.cam
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To: ShandaLear
If that is the case that's kind of low for the type of Oxycontin/Vicadin addiction most people know about. If I remember the original National Enquirer article the addition was for hundreds of thousands of pills, which is definitely way high (in multiple senses of the word).
35 posted on 12/05/2003 6:20:31 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: j.cam
Funny how the partisan Democratic, liberal journalists in the AP and the rest of the liberal media are not pointing out that the man who is going after Rush Limbaugh, Barry Krischer, the Florida State Attorney of the Fifteenth Judicial Circuit (which includes Palm Beach County), is a Democrat.

Well, of course the media doesn't ever impute any partisan motives to prosecutors. Why, think back to Ken Starr -- you'd have to delve deep into his background to discover he's a Republican -- the media scrupulously refrained from reporting that fact.

< /sarcasm >

36 posted on 12/05/2003 6:25:17 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: j.cam
Oh I agree it's no crime to be an addict, and I'm glad Rush has received treatment. And I have a problem with a lot of the drug laws. Some of the allegations, however, involved bribery, blackmail, threats and/or extortion. Those are other issues entirely, and IF Rush is guilty of any of those, he should pay the penalty.
37 posted on 12/05/2003 6:27:22 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: ShandaLear
They said Rush received prescriptions for 2000 pills over 6 months. I did the math and that's roughly 1 pill every 4 hours. This is hardly an unusually high amount of pain killers.

Good catch.

38 posted on 12/05/2003 6:27:27 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: DarthVader; ClintonBeGone
And Verrrrrr....y Ugly Too.

Yeah really. Here she is with Marxist W. Palm congressman Wexler cbg dug up.

She is one nasty ho.

39 posted on 12/05/2003 6:28:41 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: Sloth
I'm think if he only took them during waking hours, he may have been taking 2 evey 4 hours which still isn't that bad.
40 posted on 12/05/2003 6:29:55 AM PST by ShandaLear
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To: dyno35
I personally think seat belt laws are stupid, un-Constitutional and a waste of taxpayer money. Doesn't make me any less guilty - or susceptible to the penalty - when I don't wear one. And it would be hypocritical of me to chew someone out for not wearing his seat belt when I don't wear one myself.
41 posted on 12/05/2003 6:30:06 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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"Some of the allegations, however, involved bribery, blackmail, threats and/or extortion."

Where have you heard this. I haven't heard this. Can you cite a credible source?

42 posted on 12/05/2003 6:30:26 AM PST by j.cam
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To: Big Midget
My guess is that they'll cut Rush an appropriate deal -- a handslap at most. And I'm sure there'll be no prosecution at all if he helps convict those in the supply chain above him.

You're kidding, of course?

This has nothing to do with wrapping up a "drug investigation". It has everything to do with wrapping up Rush.

DAs in South Florida can get take down a score of drug dealers every day. But it's not every day a partisan Democrat DA can become a hero and icon to millions by taking down the biggest Truth Dealer in the country and doing a huge service to his Party.

"Drugs" is the excuse. "Destruction" is the purpose!

43 posted on 12/05/2003 6:30:27 AM PST by Gritty ("Giving leaders enough power to create "social justice" gives them power to destroy all-Tom Sowell)
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To: cpst12
>> ...It remains to be seen if the prosecutor will be enough to garner enough evidence to actually charge Rush. If he gets charged, you can be there is a lot of bad stuff coming out; I doubt very much any prosecutor would take on such a high profile case against a man with enormous resources to defend himself unless the he felt there was a decent chance of a guilty finding. Politics aside, no prosecutor wants to bring, and then loose, a high profile case. <<

If the motivation is political, then the ultimate outcome is not significant. The scandal during the life of the case is the main objective. Rush simply buying the drugs illegally would not be enough. It would be too obvious and actually make Rush stronger politically. The goal of the prosecutor is to find some evidence that Rush falsified a document to obtain drugs. This will establish the basis for prosecution without screaming political persecution. Even in that event, Rush's attorney is too good for Rush to ever serve time. The goal is to disable Rush politically during the run up to the election. Look at the life of the typical investigation and court case, 9 to 12 months, and compare that to the election cycle. Whether Rush is guilty or not, it would make his legal case the spotlight issue during a critical time period.
44 posted on 12/05/2003 6:33:10 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: ShandaLear
Actually closer to one every two hours. (6 mos x 30 days x 24 hours = 4320 hours).

Still not an exorbitant amount

45 posted on 12/05/2003 6:34:11 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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To: GulliverSwift
Agree. Much of the stuff that would unite us is posted in the middle of the night or very early morning like this story. The junk gets posted during prime time.

Nice research. Maybe you should have posted it later in the day when everyone else can see it.

46 posted on 12/05/2003 6:34:19 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Gritty
The witch hunt is now under way.
47 posted on 12/05/2003 6:36:23 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Cacophonous
The one quote they found of Rush "chewing" anyone out for drug abuse was from 1995 before Rush was addicted, and he was obviously talking about recreational drug users, not people who become addicted through no fault of their own when being treated medically for pain.

According to Dershowitz, not only Rush, but law enforcement makes a distinction.

It seems only now with Rush's situation have liberals become unable to understand the distinction. Now that is hypocrisy.

48 posted on 12/05/2003 6:37:58 AM PST by j.cam
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To: GOPJ
Hey, perhaps you can give it a bump during prime time. ;-)
49 posted on 12/05/2003 6:39:30 AM PST by j.cam
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To: j.cam
The stories said he payed off the housekeeper. That's bribery at the least. He also became paranoid and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the e-mails. A vindictive prosecutor could try to make that into a case of extortion. It probably wouldn't fly, but it would cause trouble.
50 posted on 12/05/2003 6:39:44 AM PST by Cacophonous (Thought and innovation are disturbances of regularity and...tolerated only for...readaptations...)
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