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US Bases in Germany will be closed
Die Welt am Sonntag | 12-13-2003 | Americanbychoice

Posted on 12/13/2003 8:49:36 AM PST by americanbychoice

Minister of Defense, Peter Struck has announced the closing of military bases and a decrease of American Soldiers in Germany. Their State Departement, Defence Ministry and American representatives are building a "Work group", announced Struck to Die Welt am Sonntag. After that,the American Secretary of Defense and Congress will decide in the Spring.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: militarybases
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
No more German brides for our soldiers.

Viva Poland!
81 posted on 12/13/2003 12:02:27 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: arete
Just like we did in Viet Nam? We sure kicked those rice eating, pj wearing shoeless uneducated commies around there now didn't we?

No. More like we should have done in Vietnam. Fighting a PC war can yield just one result: increased American casualties and eventual defeat. That reality is still lost on most.

Let me start over. Not like Vietnam. More like Carthage. You haven't heard a lot from those troublemaking Carthiginians letely, have you?

Time to give your anti-American bent a rest.

82 posted on 12/13/2003 12:03:55 PM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: gatorbait
Other than that, have a lovely day,Benedict.

The only Bendicts who are around are the ones in Washington including their mindless followers who think that stuffing taxpayer money into the hands of corporate interests is more important than how many American lives will be sacrificed in a flim flam war based on lies and fabrications. You need to get your head on straight there boy and do a little thinking. This isn't about winning a war, it's about spending money.

Richard W.

83 posted on 12/13/2003 12:04:32 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: americanbychoice
The US forms alliances with China, Russia, Japan, Australia, etc., would that lead to a more stable world?

The Klintonistas did with China by sharing our military secrets with them. Now they are menacing those in Formosa and Tibet.

The US has also made it a policy to align with North Korea in their economic development by providing them things that are illegal and immoral to have here in the United States - nuclear power plants.

I guess these alliances have profitted the united States because we now have reason to build an SDI whereas these nations previously didn't give us cause.

84 posted on 12/13/2003 12:05:39 PM PST by Dr Warmoose
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To: arete
You need to get your head on straight there boy and do a little thinking

I have,Benedict, Listen,it 's awful, it's a quagmire and unliveable! Make the cuts lengthwise. You'll feel much better .Say hi to the Go,Pat,Go crowd and the unrepentant Perotistas on your way out.
85 posted on 12/13/2003 12:09:11 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait
Either way,I see someone who doth wring his hands too much.

Actually, I am a little surprised at how many sheep keeping falling for the same Washington two-step. Create an enemy who is a threat to us. Go to war. Funnel billions of taxpayer money into the hands of your friends. Let someone else worry about cleaning up the mess. Oh and about your dead sons and daughters . . . we're sorry.

Richard W.

86 posted on 12/13/2003 12:11:17 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: arete
Funnel billions of taxpayer money into the hands of your friends.

Your tin foil cap is a tad snug .
87 posted on 12/13/2003 12:12:24 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: arete
Are you really Chamberlin reincarnated?
88 posted on 12/13/2003 12:13:44 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: arete
Are you one of those tompaine.com types ore perhaps a tad too close to antiwar.com .Idle curiosity sort of prompted that question.
89 posted on 12/13/2003 12:14:57 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: americanbychoice
Well I gotta say If Germany and France won't support us, why should we continue to spend dollars there on bases. Lets got to Poland or Checkoslovakia where we are more than welcome and they are grateful to us for standing against the Soviets and helping them to become free nations.

I say if Western Europe gets into another war we save our freinds and the rest can go spit.

I have to admit that I am dismayed at the Germans for bailing out like they did especially since you would assume they would have learned from the Hitler experience.

And France don't even get me started on them.

90 posted on 12/13/2003 12:16:10 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: CGVet58
But no matter what... America will defeat our enemies and if need be, utterly destroy them.

A reaaaally big AMEN! to that!!!

91 posted on 12/13/2003 12:22:04 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: arete
Just like we did in Viet Nam? We sure kicked those rice eating, pj wearing shoeless uneducated commies around there now didn't we? Richard W.

Uh, in case you didn't notice. This kind of war is different, the war on terror to a great extent will be fought much like the cold war, lots of CIA killing the enemy covertly and spying on the ground (HUMINT).

In Vietnam we were the invaders.

92 posted on 12/13/2003 12:26:13 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: FreeReign
Don't keep extra bases in Germany

German leaders, so eager to be critical of what they see as the United States flexing its military muscle on the world stage, are having something of a change of heart. In effect, they want to have their cake and eat it, too.

U.S. officials were making the rounds of NATO allies this week, discussing the possibility that some American military bases in Europe should be closed or moved to other countries. Germany is one target of such planning.

About 80,000 of the 116,000 U.S. troops in Europe now are based in Germany. A big American military presence there was necessary for decades during the Cold War, but the time for such a massive presence appears to have passed.

ALTOONA MIRROR
Sat Dec 13 14:24:27 2003.


http://www.altoonamirror.com/edit/story/1212202003_edt1212edit.asp
93 posted on 12/13/2003 12:29:17 PM PST by RottiBiz (Just a few dollars a month could end Freepathons.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
"I vote for new American bases in Poland."

Agreed. Poland has been a good ally and friend, and they could use the financial support.

94 posted on 12/13/2003 12:30:40 PM PST by Sunsong (Free Republic is a conservative, American site -- try to keep that in mind...)
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To: americanbychoice
As someone who was stationed at Ramstein, and loved it...and loved Kaiserslaurtern, my home and friends left behind in Hohenecken, Vogelweh, Einsiedlerhof, and Landstuhl, I say it is time to close them also. We need a large airbase in Europe, but I'm not sure Germany is the place. The weather around Ramstein and Spangdehlem is very poor in winter and IFR's apply for most of Nov-March. We should go southeast, to Romania or Bulgaria. Those countries are closer to the Middle East and old Soviet Asia anyway.

It's time to let go of the Germans and Germany. They can fend for themselves. I'm very sorry to say this, but I am an Amercian first and foremost.

95 posted on 12/13/2003 12:41:49 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
Just came back. I was born in K-Town
96 posted on 12/13/2003 12:44:04 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: arete
Stop paying them and they go looking for someone who will. France, Germany and Russia are just going to sit there and watch us self-destruct in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Well, the solution to this problem is simple: Buy Gold. Lots of gold.

97 posted on 12/13/2003 12:49:08 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: americanbychoice
ahhh, now all I will have are memories ... of K-town, Hanau, Graf, Garmisch :-)
98 posted on 12/13/2003 12:57:59 PM PST by fnord (Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence)
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To: fnord
It seems K- town (Ramstein) may stay.
99 posted on 12/13/2003 12:59:19 PM PST by americanbychoice
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To: Beck_isright; americanbychoice; knighthawk

100 posted on 12/13/2003 1:23:53 PM PST by Grampa Dave (George $orea$$ has owned and controlled the Rats for decades!)
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