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The Dean dilemma (NOVAK)
TownHall ^ | 12/22/2004 | Robert Novak

Posted on 12/22/2003 3:05:20 AM PST by NYS_Eric

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1 posted on 12/22/2003 3:05:22 AM PST by NYS_Eric
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To: NYS_Eric
Novak has betrayed the USA when he OUTED a CIA operative for his mistress(master) at the DNC.

So the question arises in reasonable people's minds: Can Novak believed at all?

2 posted on 12/22/2003 3:25:12 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: NYS_Eric
Well at least Dean is the first physician ever to run for the Presidency in the US, not a disgusting shyster lawyer like the Clintons. Beyond that feature, Dean is singularly unqualified and a bloviating demagoge.
3 posted on 12/22/2003 3:26:52 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.)
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To: Diogenesis
There are serious doubts as to whether the "operative" was much more than just an employee. I have met more than a few people who don't believe for a minute she was an "operative", that word implies a lot more than being in the employ of the CIA.

Don't take my word for it though.
4 posted on 12/22/2003 3:29:48 AM PST by Ispy4u
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To: NYS_Eric
The answer to Dean is Hillary, if she wants the nomination.
5 posted on 12/22/2003 3:53:23 AM PST by RLK
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One traitor writing about another traitor. But anyway, I find it believable, that the DNC is depressed about Dean the Traitor leading their party to certain defeat.
6 posted on 12/22/2003 3:53:36 AM PST by samtheman
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To: NYS_Eric
bump for later
7 posted on 12/22/2003 3:56:56 AM PST by MrConfettiMan (Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?)
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To: Diogenesis
A). I don't believe he "outed" her.

B). She wasn't an operative.

C). Novaks article was true. Why wouldn't you believe him now?

Her employment at the CIA as a WMD expert was well known and it seems kind of silly to believe that an "operatives" cover was as the spouse of someone in the employ of the US government in the area of WMD. She was an analyst.

8 posted on 12/22/2003 3:57:31 AM PST by tbeatty
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To: NYS_Eric
"The Dean dilemma was spelled out to me by a sage Democratic practitioner whose views I have sought since 1968. He has felt for months that the former Vermont governor faces horrendous defeat against President Bush. Last week, this party loyalist told me he felt Dean will be nominated unless an act of intervention stops him. He added that he is sure Dean can be stopped but at the cost of unacceptable carnage. Implicitly and reluctantly, therefore, he is swallowing Dean."

Excuse me? "a sage Democratic practitioner"?

According to my dictionary SAGE = wise, [can't be that] or a plant, [hmmm ....... I wonder] or green.

Inasmuch as this "sage" is "swollowing Dean", I would suggest the "sage" must be green.

Afterall, isn't that what happens to one if they igest poison?

9 posted on 12/22/2003 4:08:36 AM PST by G.Mason ( Democrats are expendable)
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To: FormerACLUmember
He also might be the first abortionist doctor to run for President. His duties at a planned parenthood client have come under question. I prefer a lawyer to an abortist.
10 posted on 12/22/2003 4:09:26 AM PST by BushCountry (To the last, I will grapple with Democrats. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at Liberals.)
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To: tbeatty
Exactly.
11 posted on 12/22/2003 4:13:23 AM PST by Ispy4u
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To: NYS_Eric
Dean is the least of The Democratic Crime Syndicates fears. The American Soldier is the Person of the Year (2003) for fighting foreign enemies. The American Voter is the Person of the Year (2004) for fighting domestic enemies.
12 posted on 12/22/2003 4:13:51 AM PST by PGalt
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The point was not to laud her, or those of utterly poor judgement
who hired such a purported "asset" or "agent" who had such limited judgement as to
flash herself in a national magazine to hurt her oiwn country.

Mr.Novak outed her by name, obviously erroneously thinking that his own treason would reflect on President Bush.

It did as much as Benedict Arnold's treason wrought stain on George Washington. Not at all.

13 posted on 12/22/2003 4:20:57 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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So did Novak out her or not? I'm hearing two different versions here.

Does anyone else besides Dio think Novak has committed treason?
14 posted on 12/22/2003 4:26:58 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: tbeatty
Joe Wilson "outed" his wife for political and monetary gain. She had already been exposed from things I have read before the article.
15 posted on 12/22/2003 4:30:34 AM PST by Fantelina (Have we heard this before)
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To: Prodigal Son
To be completely accurate, the outing was by Time/Life Magazine a few months earlier
and then Novak. They BOTH are guilty of this.
And both attempt to use transferrance of their guilt,
16 posted on 12/22/2003 4:31:07 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Prodigal Son
Novak reported the truth. That truth did not "out" anyone who had cover, an analyst is not an "operative". There is a hell of a lot more to being a CIA operative than being on their payroll.

The only persons in this story who intended to damage the current administration were Mr. Wilson and his wife.
17 posted on 12/22/2003 4:31:41 AM PST by Ispy4u
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To: FormerACLUmember
"Well at least Dean is the first physician ever to run for the Presidency..."

True, but as another poster on FR noted, 50% of physicians placed in the lower half of their classes.
18 posted on 12/22/2003 4:34:36 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Prodigal Son
Does anyone else besides Dio think Novak has committed treason?

There is a certain kind of Freeper who uses 'treason' the way kids use ketchup; they just splop it on anything they don't much like the taste of.

19 posted on 12/22/2003 4:41:08 AM PST by Grut
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To: G.Mason
Inasmuch as this "sage" is "swollowing Dean",

Why bring up Monica?

20 posted on 12/22/2003 4:45:26 AM PST by bullseye1911 (IQ deemed to be somewhere between an idiot-savant and Marilyn Savant.)
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