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Will the UN take over the Internet? ---Resentment, fear drive U.N. quest for control
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 12/24/03 | ADAM THIERER and WAYNE CREWS

Posted on 12/25/2003 8:12:36 AM PST by chiller

Will the UN take over the Internet?

There's mounting evidence that the Internet's good old days as a global cyberzone of freedom -- where governments generally take a "hands off" approach -- may be numbered.

In fact, two weeks ago, delegates from 192 countries met in Geneva to discuss how the Internet should be governed and what steps should be taken to solve the global "digital divide" and "harness the potential of information" on behalf of the world's poor. Also on the table at the session -- the United Nations World Summit on the Information Society -- was the question of domain name management and how much protection free speech and expression should receive on the Net.

The real issue, however, is whether a "United Nations for the Internet" is on the way. There was discussion at the recent conference of whether Internet decision making should be shifted from largely private management to the United Nations. Another summit is scheduled for 2005.

In one sense, none of this is surprising. Regulators across the globe have long been clamoring for greater control over content and commerce on the Internet. Ironically, in the guise of protecting the world's citizens, statists around the world want to get their hands on one of the world's most liberating technologies.

While the U.N. conferees have "generously" agreed to retain language that enshrines free speech, despite the disapproval of countries such as China and Iran, these matters are far from settled. There have been a few notable international cyberspats already, such as a French court's attempt to force Yahoo to block the sale of offensive Nazi materials to French citizens, and an Australian court's ruling that the online version of the Dow Jones publication Barron's could be subjected to that country's libel laws. And Chinese officials have attempted to censor the search engines Google, AltaVista and Yahoo.

If enough countries start playing these games, the threat of retaliation and potential trade wars increases as cross-border legal spats intensify over privacy, gambling, pornography, intellectual property and tax policy.

The implications for online commerce are profound. The moment one puts a Web site online, one has "gone global." Should that mean you have automatically and willingly subjected yourself to the laws of every country on the planet? Shouldn't the origin of content matter?

This is one reason some favor the "U.N. for the Net" model. But others have suggested that international treaties or adjudication by the World Trade Organization might offer the better approach. Still others assert that the best answer is to do nothing because the current unregulated Web environment has helped expand free speech and commerce globally for companies, consumers and citizens alike.

We favor the latter. But to the extent pure laissez-faire is not an option, "country of origin" standards may provide the best default solution. That is, government should only exert authority over those actors who physically reside within the confines of their traditional geographic borders. In this sense, an origin-based jurisdictional methodology protects sovereignty while giving meaning to the notion of "consent of the governed" in an online setting.

The great advantage of the Net is precisely the ability to reach as many people as possible and overcome artificial restrictions on trade or communications at traditional geographic boundaries. The Web, whatever problems it has raised, has provided far more opportunity and freedom to mankind. The United Nations appears eager to assume greater control over the Net, not because of its failures, but because it undermines members' authority. That sounds like the best reason ever to make sure a United Nations for the Internet never becomes a reality.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam Thierer is director of telecommunications studies and Wayne Crews is director of technology studies at the Cato Institute (www.cato.org). They are the editors of "Who Rules the Net? Internet Governance and Jurisdiction" (Cato Institute, 2003).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: internet; un; unitednations
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1 posted on 12/25/2003 8:12:37 AM PST by chiller
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To: chiller
All they can do is regulate and kill the Internet in other countries.

The US is the Internet.

Control Freaks have not even been able to get an Internet Tax through congress. I don't think there is any way they will get UN control.

So9

2 posted on 12/25/2003 8:21:01 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: chiller
delegates from 192 countries met in Geneva to discuss how the Internet should be governed

That's about as ridiculous as them meeting to discuss how Bill Gates' fortune should be used or how Walmart should be under their control. Why do they think they have a right to control the internet?
3 posted on 12/25/2003 8:28:42 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
"...or how Walmart should be under their control."

It isn't? You mean all those anti-Walmart posts are wrong?

4 posted on 12/25/2003 8:30:12 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Servant of the 9
What they don't seem to realize is that there IS no physical "Internet" entity that they can control.

The Internet is just an interconnection of thousands of privately owned networks. It's going to be real hard to exert a lot of control, and it will get harder as time goes by, particularly with technology like Wi-Fi.

5 posted on 12/25/2003 8:37:13 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me, had better run away real fast)
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To: chiller
The U.N. is presently irrelevant, thanks to GWB.

All that's left is to stop our tax dollars from going to them.

6 posted on 12/25/2003 8:37:20 AM PST by G.Mason ( The nine dwarfs never looked dwarfer, - but I'm not gloating. ~ JohnHuang2)
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To: chiller
to solve the global "digital divide" and "harness the potential of information" on behalf of the world's poor.

I'm sure the world's poor have more things to worry about than watching the Paris Hilton sex video and reading screeds on Salon.com.

7 posted on 12/25/2003 8:40:42 AM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: TomGuy
Why do they think they have a right to control the internet?

All your base are belong to us!

8 posted on 12/25/2003 8:41:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: chiller
There is a real simple response to this. Everyone in America with an e-mail account needs to e-mail Kofi and tell them what they think. I'd love to see his face, "You have 256,000,000 new e-mails."
9 posted on 12/25/2003 8:42:25 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: SauronOfMordor
Indeed, the concept of the incompetent UN bureaucrats controlling the Internet just makes me laugh. When the hordes of brilliant, libertarian-minded cybergeeks around the globe sabotage the UN attempts at control, the UN bureaucrats will do . . . what??
10 posted on 12/25/2003 8:47:35 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The U.N. just wants anti-American terrorists to be able to communicate with each other.
11 posted on 12/25/2003 8:48:23 AM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: CWOJackson
Considering how the UN works, Kofi has been waiting for his email address since he was sworn in. The Globocrats are getting to it... one of these days.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
12 posted on 12/25/2003 8:54:28 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: chiller
It's none of their business, they need to keep their hands off. If this continues, the US is going to have to defund that organization by quiting it altogether and forming another group that consists solely of democratic states.
13 posted on 12/25/2003 9:07:01 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: chiller
Will the UN take over the Internet? ---Resentment, fear drive U.N. quest for control

How about pure, naked LUST for POWER and dictatorial control?
14 posted on 12/25/2003 9:21:37 AM PST by VOA
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To: chiller
The only reason the UN would even want to control the Internet is to disseminate information given in truthful fashion they would deny the truth from getting out anywhere .

It could be used to put information in place that should not be there it could be used to manipulate whole populations to one side of an issue in extremes we have never thought possible

We already have parts of our own American populace that would turn over everything they have to this communist force the Internet would just make it simpler for the UN to manipulate you out of even more with you not even being aware of it

This little keyboard and mouse are powerful things in the hands of anyone who is a freethinker but its also a powerful tool for those who would enslave those who don't think for themselves !

15 posted on 12/25/2003 9:24:32 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: chiller; TomGuy; SauronOfMordor
Regulators across the globe have long been clamoring for greater control over content and commerce on the Internet.

New Career Opportunities
UN Global Regulators Apply Now!

in the guise of protecting (TAXING & SPYING ON) the world's citizens.


Try regulating my new home ground
station satellite intra-net.


Another summit is scheduled for 2005.

The UN Regulators need Democrat's
in the White House for their plans to work.

Looks like their next meeting will be rescheduled for 2009.

16 posted on 12/25/2003 9:25:50 AM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: G.Mason
All that's left is to stop our tax dollars from going to them.

Good luck. All that's left is for good men to sit idle and do nothing about the U.N., which is exactly what is happening.

We are either in or out of that corrupt body. Since most politicians in this country are corrupt I would guess they will continue to let the U.N. do it's dirty work on us.


17 posted on 12/25/2003 9:31:51 AM PST by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: chiller
I think this is mostly a ploy for dictatorships to have more tools to persecute their citizens who are abroad. For example, suppose a Chinese student in Europe wrote an e-mail to a friend criticizing the Chinese government. If the U.N. had some sort of "crime" on the books restricting political speech -- you know, you can say whatever you want as long as it doesn't "offend" anyone -- the Chinese student might be hauled before some U.N. "court" and sent to the labor camps in China. Some European countries might be eager to recognize this U.N. court and allow them to kidnap the Chinese student. I can't quite imagine this happening in America (yet). A lot of dictatorships want the U.N. to be their long arm around the world, and censoring the Internet would help them crack down on dissidents not under their direct control.
18 posted on 12/25/2003 9:41:58 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: TomGuy
Why do they think they have a right to control the internet?

In the end, the only true response to your question (and I don't mean for it to sound rude) is, "Who cares?" It is a physical impossibility for the UN to "take over the Internet" because there is no physical object to take control of in the first place. Besides, US law trumps UN spewage at all times.

This article is FUD by two guys who are trying to further their own careers. Don't worry about it.

19 posted on 12/25/2003 9:47:11 AM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: Major_Risktaker
With any luck, the next opportune time for such a supportive White House/Congress will be after the Twelfth of Never. :)
20 posted on 12/25/2003 10:17:48 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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