Ongoing tyranny in the Terri Schiavo case

American Constitutional Research Service | 12-24-03 | John william kurowski

[kimmie7]

Merry CHRISTmas ping...

[Cicero]

May God watch over her.

[MainFrame65]

"In any event, it was generally thought that Florida’s judicial system would hand the Honorable Governor a defeat, but such a defeat is not expected when the 14th Amendment protection to due process of law is invoked at the federal level, and the Court there is called upon to guarantee Terri a trial by jury to determine what her wishes may have been. Thankfully Florida’s Honorable Governor has promised to appeal this decision, and eventually our system will be made to work as intended by our Founding Fathers.

Are Florida judges born without shame, or is it a characteristic they acquire upon appointment to the bench? It is a terrible shame that this woman's life will not be protected by the state that bore and raised her, but I have little hope of an outcome in Florida different from what you forsee. And while I hope that the federal juciciary will care more for her rights than their state counterparts, I will not believe her safe until her REAL family has the key to her room ... and can kick her husband out of her life forever.

Eventually, the USSC will see this case - unless she dies first. I hope they get the chance, and that we have the right judges there when they do.

[det dweller too]

Unfortunately, I think there is so much legal bullsh*t woven into this thing that we will never know what is actually happening, and who has the white hats and black hats. What I can say is that if I were turned into a vegitable, I would want the right to leave. She has a right to life. and any right, for it to be a right and not something forced on you, would include the power of choice to say no. I hope she finds it

[sweetliberty]

These judicial tyrants in Florida are some of the most reprehensible excuses for human beings, let alone judges, I have ever had the displeasure of seeing.

[God is good]

The socialists are pushing their plot through. If the socialists get control, this kind of treatment will be the norm not only for the helpless and meager in our society, but for select groups also. May Christian liberty reign!

[mickie]

BTTT

[drlevy88]

It's public record -- no legal bullpoop at all -- that the only reason that the court can even pretend to believe that Terri wanted this, is that Michael and a person from his family told anecdotes about Terri's alleged casual comments. This kind of testimony would not suffice to send a Ted Bundy to Florida's death chamber. How about the right of Florida's citizens to not be a victim of an quite possible mistake, if not outright lie, about what their wishes were? Seems to me that in any sane system, this right would prevail against any right to die.

[mickie]

And can you believe that the ACLU is supporting Terri's estranged 'husband'?

[The Red Zone]

And in a stranger development, the ACLU has offered to help Rush Limbaugh in his Florida medical privacy case. Yes, Rush Limbaugh! Could they be trying for a precedent to help them in the Terri case? Verrrrrrrrrry interesting.

[GWB and GOP Man]

Please post the link to this article. I have to see this to believe it.

[Lauren BaRecall]

And in a stranger development, the ACLU has offered to help Rush Limbaugh in his Florida medical privacy case. Yes, Rush Limbaugh! Could they be trying for a precedent to help them in the Terri case? Verrrrrrrrrry interesting.

When I heard about the new developments in the Rush Limbaugh case, I immediately thought of Terri. In hearing about Rush, I learned that, unlike the Federal Constitution, the Florida State Constitution does include a section providing for the right to privacy. That is the basis of Rush's case (i.e., keeping his medical records sealed), as it is in Terri's "right to refuse medical treatment," according to Felos.

It seems to me, that the ACLU's involvement in both cases illustrates its interest in pushing the "right to privacy" agenda.

[windchime]

Hope you had a Merry CHRISTmas, kimmie, and pray that Terri and all here will have a Happy New Year!

[FR_addict]

Thanks for the post. It clears up in my mind why the Governor's attorney believes there is a right to a jury trial for Terri.

Now I don't see any viable argument on the other side to deny Terri this right. But I guess they'll make something up.

[Sabatier]

Regarding finding out what Terri wants, does anybody know if Terri has her own lawyer? My understanding is that her family has a lawyer, the husband has a lawyer, but that's not the same as Terri having a lawyer of her own.

Since she had a guardian appointed - in this case,
her husband - I don't know if that precludes her having a lawyer of her own.

Without her own lawyer to say what she wants the courts take things like hearsay testimony as evidence to what she wants. The guardian is supposed to speak for her and Terri's family didn't believe he was speaking for Terri at all.

In other words, she doesn't have a voice of her own before the court, she just has the guardian, in this case, her husband.

This is why it bothers me that apparently there was so little done by the guardian ad litem to determine if Terri could communicate her wishes. A guardian ad litem in a case like this typically will go in and look at the patient and based on looking at her will say "she wasn't looking too great, she wasn't talking to me, she must not be able to communicate" - and that's it. It's about as advanced as what they would have done in the Middle Ages!

[Theodore R.]

The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to hear Terri's pleas. And I would not think that Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy will be any more compassionate toward her than their fellow "Republicans" Baird, Greer, and Demers.

[floriduh voter]

bttt and a ping for Terri.

[floriduh voter]

Judge David Demers who previously declared he was not involved in Terri's case, REMOVED GUARDIAN AD LITEM WOLFSON on Dec. 23rd, much to everyone's surprise.

Felos has all the judges in his pocket. WHO WILL INVESTIGATE THIS COVENANT TO TAKE TERRI'S LIFE before they actually succeed?

[floriduh voter]

I have all the contact numbers consolidated should the need arise to call Florida and D.C. Death by starvation-dehydration is a trend that must be applied only when there's clear evidence that grandma wants to be starved to death. Most people don't read their Will packages and aren't they surprised when nobody brings them breakfast, lunch or dinner? They can even beg for it but NO MATTER.