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I found this to be rather interesting.
1 posted on 12/29/2003 10:07:22 AM PST by stylin_geek
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Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

2 posted on 12/29/2003 10:08:53 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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I found this to be rather interesting.

I received a stern warning from Waste Management recently that I was breaking the law by placing my recyclable trash in plastic bags (which are recyclable). Seems I could be subjected to a $300 fine if I don't knock it off.

They were kind enough to mail a pamphlet describing exactly what I should be doing with my soup cans and soda bottles (as if I have the time or inclination to scrape the damn wrappers off the soup cans, wash out the soda bottles, remove the plastic wrapper, lid and ring from the bottle...and on and on and on).

5 posted on 12/29/2003 10:12:38 AM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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Thanks for posting this.
6 posted on 12/29/2003 10:12:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Kaddaffi, "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq. ")
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Great post Blake.
7 posted on 12/29/2003 10:13:19 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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Once again, one of the drug induced pipe dreams of the Nattering Watermelon Nannies has been exposed as an expensive and wasteful failure.
9 posted on 12/29/2003 10:14:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Kaddaffi, "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq. ")
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A couple of years ago, a business that I was acquainted with started the big office paper recycling program (which continues to this day). It made everyone feel good that they were, in some way, 'helping the environment'.

One day while taking an air-break near the loading dock (While some people take smoke break, I take air breaks to help stay awake at work), the recycling truck pulls up and started to load the discarded and sorted office paper.

I asked him what they do with it, and he replied that he takes it to the same place the other trucks do - the landfill, where it is mixed with 'normal' trash with large spike-wheeled front end loaders.

Curious, I asked, then why does your company provide recycling services if you are not recycling stuff? His answer: "We make more money on 'recycling' service that regular trash service."

10 posted on 12/29/2003 10:14:52 AM PST by visagoth (If you think education is expensive - try ignorance)
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AND these phony recycling programs has us paying $2.00+ a month for our planet! Sheech!!
11 posted on 12/29/2003 10:15:03 AM PST by Ff--150 (What is Is)
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What do you mean? My trash isn't worth cash?
12 posted on 12/29/2003 10:15:09 AM PST by Great_Dame
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Lots of people probably misunderstood the costs and benefits.

Proudly refusing to recycle since 1966.

Recyling is a monumental waste of energy - reducing total garbage volume is the key to success.

13 posted on 12/29/2003 10:16:02 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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People today are actually throwing away less trash (in both volume and tonnage) than in previous, less-affluent generations.

Why toss away trash when much of it can be recycled profitably on eBay?

15 posted on 12/29/2003 10:16:56 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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Too often, recycling proponents focused on the aluminum or newspaper being recycled, and forgot about the fuel, manpower and other resources

All the proponents have gone. Turned out they assumed somebody else would do the work and the proponents could take a well-deserved vacation in Costa Rica for the rest of their lives.

16 posted on 12/29/2003 10:17:06 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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I quit recycling after noticing on several separate occasions that they just sent a separate trash truck around later into which the bins were dumped. Everything from here goes directly in the trash bin now.
17 posted on 12/29/2003 10:17:50 AM PST by TroutStalker (Whip me, strip me, tie me, fly me -- catch & release)
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When chickens, for example, are commercially processed, the beaks, claws, and innards are turned into pet food instead of going into the kitchen garbage can.

I can picture Homer Simpson drooling already.

18 posted on 12/29/2003 10:18:11 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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geeze, next thing you know, they might even consider trees to be a crop. You know, something that grows, gets harvested and then replanted? You know, the original renewable resource for almost all your needs.
19 posted on 12/29/2003 10:18:31 AM PST by Great_Dame
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New York City wasn’t able to dump its garbage at sea any more, and it got piled up on Staten Island. What happened?

Staten Island doubled in size???

20 posted on 12/29/2003 10:20:40 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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Plastic two-liter soft drink bottles weigh 30 percent less than the old glass bottles. Plastic bags weight 70 percent less than paper.

But glass was sterilized and reused umpteen times. Then somebody got the bright idea to dump the costs on the public and use "disposeable" plastic bottles, which takes years, if ever, to deteriorate. Note that the shift to plastic didn't equal a drop in price.

Same with paper bags - they rotted after a while. They gave jobs to people who logged the scrub pine and the forest was renewable. Now we suck up oil to make these bags, which like the above, never decay. (I still make a point to ask for paper in the stores, especially now that they have handles, which was the only "improvement" I found in plastic.)

The article sounds like a promo for the "use once and throw it away" crowd. That being said, I never could see the sort-your-garbage routine as it was pretty obvious that it was neither environmentally friendly or cost effective and was merely another duck-the-consequences gambit by the corporations.

26 posted on 12/29/2003 10:28:36 AM PST by Oatka
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In the old days, a pile of garbage at the dump would be set afire, and everything combustible would be burned away, while the oxidation of the metals would be well-begun. Then, the non-combustible metals (which will eventually degrade) were buried. Glass was sent back to glass factories as early as the 1920's to be recycled again and again, into insulation, fabrics, and more glass items, and aluminum, copper and brass were recycled. Large items of iron or steel were shipped back to steel mills.
29 posted on 12/29/2003 10:32:19 AM PST by redhead (Les Franšais sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.)
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My neighbors are unhappy to learn that the trash they’ve carefully sorted for years into brown bottles, green bottles, cans, and paper is being dumped back into one pile at the local landfill.

They are just figuring this out??

The Recycling guys have been doing this around my way for years ... and we pay extra trash fees for this too

I have to admit the funniest .. well actually the stupidest recycling story I've heard, was a few years ago when a street near me was repaved using recycled glass

Everyone kept getting flat tires .. so then the local township had to do a study to find out why so many flat tires were occurring on the street made from recycled glass

30 posted on 12/29/2003 10:32:40 AM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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"Lots of people probably misunderstood the cost and benifits."


Just like the elctric car folks thinking the recharging of their batteries comes from sources that do not pollute.
33 posted on 12/29/2003 10:34:06 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Part of the Vast Right Wing Apparatus since Ford lost. ><BCC>)
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I have been saying this for years based on earlier articles and books on the subject. But people just do not want to hear it.
35 posted on 12/29/2003 10:38:49 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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