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Al Qaeda videos found in Iraq weapons raid
CNN ^ | 12-30-03

Posted on 12/30/2003 6:59:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: rdb3
This can't be, the Ba'athist and AQ are ideological enemies. These must be plants by the same neocon Kurds that drugged Saddam and left him in a hole for our boys to find.
21 posted on 12/30/2003 7:29:51 PM PST by optimistically_conservative (Nothing is as expensive as a free government service or subsidized benefit.)
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To: rdb3
More proof:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1046414/posts

Iraqi Officers: Al Qaida Operatives Were Trained Near Baghdad (911 Training/Rehearsals)


Saddam's contacts with Al Qaida, the officers told interrogators, preceded the group's Sept. 11, 2001 strikes on New York and Washington. They said Saudi envoys arranged for Al Qaida insurgents to enter Iraq and begin training in camps around Baghdad.


The Al Qaida insurgents were trained at two camps — Nahrawan and Salman Pak — under the supervision of the Fedayeen Saddam.

22 posted on 12/30/2003 7:33:36 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: ladyinred
Q U A G M I R E ! < /sarcasm >

:-D

23 posted on 12/30/2003 7:35:12 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Anagram of my screenname: TRUE UNCLE TRUER COCONUT)
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To: Indy Pendance
U.S. forces operating in the so-called Sunni Triangle -- the region of Iraq most loyal to captured former dictator Saddam Hussein -- found a significant weapons cache that included al Qaeda literature and videotapes and Vote for Howard Dean Buttons.
24 posted on 12/30/2003 7:35:46 PM PST by HP8753 (Some companies should be happy with four sigma)
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To: nuffsenuff
"Hey! Let's team up!"...

Perhaps a Howie Dean "meet up"?

25 posted on 12/30/2003 7:36:22 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Indy Pendance
U.S. forces operating in the so-called Sunni Triangle -- the region of Iraq most loyal to captured former dictator Saddam Hussein....

Hasn't CNN got the BBC memo? It's suppose to be the "former President Saddam Hussein."

26 posted on 12/30/2003 7:36:44 PM PST by Faraday
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To: FairOpinion
Thanx for that link. It got past me.


27 posted on 12/30/2003 7:41:21 PM PST by rdb3 (The only problem I have with conservatism is conservatives.)
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To: Faraday
Hasn't CNN got the BBC memo? It's suppose to be the "former President Saddam Hussein."

A significant lapse, borderline hate crime.

28 posted on 12/30/2003 7:42:03 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: FairOpinion

The Democrat Party's Train to the White House

If you look closely, you can see the phrase "no evidence" inscribed on the wheels.

29 posted on 12/30/2003 7:43:54 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Indy Pendance; MeeknMing; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; nopardons; potlatch; ntnychik; GeronL; ...



General Hawley's Speech  This is a must read. Good for him!
 
 
In case you haven't read this....( I had not), I wanted to share it with you. I  don't think that this guy is a liberal Democrat.
 
 
For those who don't know General Hawley, he's a newly retired USAF 4-star general. He commanded the USAF Air Combat Command [our front-line fighters and bombers].

The Command headquarters is at Langley AFB, VA.

General Hawley is now retired and no longer required to be politically correct. His short speech is very much to the point. The following are excerpts:
 
"Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed.

You've heard them too. Here they are:
 
1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative." Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what happens.
 
2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid you usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky, half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E --Well, you get the idea.
 
3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed us." For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy satellites. "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.
 
4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection is just a desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. It's the same today.
 
5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" for a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't offend them."
 
SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year:

Never to forget our murdered brothers and sisters.

Never to let the relativists get away with their immoral thinking.

After all, no matter what your daughter's political science professor says, we didn't start this.

Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "No More Pearl Harbors."





 
 

30 posted on 12/30/2003 7:44:05 PM PST by autoresponder (SLICK http://0access.tripod.com/legacy.html OLDIES BG MUSIC: http://0access.tripod.com/slick.html)
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To: Indy Pendance
What in the heck is this .. The Dems swore there were no ties

I guess this is more proof the Dems don't have a clue of what they are talking about huh?

31 posted on 12/30/2003 7:45:01 PM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: autoresponder
Interesting...thanks for the ping. :-)
32 posted on 12/30/2003 7:45:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: facedown
Snake Eyes
33 posted on 12/30/2003 7:46:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: rdb3
If this is verified beyond all reasonable doubt, the critics of this war (both Left and Right) need to admit their mistake.

The original data presented by Sec. Powell to the UN linking the Iraq regime with al Qaeda has never been refuted. It has only been confirmed and deepened with every new find. The American people have understood this all along. It's the American-hating elites that have trouble understanding the obvious.

34 posted on 12/30/2003 7:48:15 PM PST by Faraday
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To: *CCRM
BUMP!!!
35 posted on 12/30/2003 7:48:19 PM PST by jmstein7
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To: Mo1
Actually, the Dems said that there was "no evidence" of any ties, just like they say there's "no evidence" of weapons of mass destruction. They say it in such a way to make you think that they're being bold and declamatory and are making a huge, significant declaration, but they have this out that they're not actually saying that there "are no" ties.

Slippery little weasels, aren't they?
36 posted on 12/30/2003 7:49:51 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: HP8753
U.S. forces operating in the so-called Sunni Triangle -- the region of Iraq most loyal to captured former dictator Saddam Hussein -- found a significant weapons cache that included al Qaeda literature and videotapes and Vote for Howard Dean Buttons.

I heard this the other day on the radio, I think the guy sitting in for Rush...........The perfect republican comercial......A picture of Dean and a picture of G. W. Bush, Who would the terrorists vote for President? or Who whould the terrorists like to see as President? Hmmmmmm?
37 posted on 12/30/2003 7:58:10 PM PST by Ethyl
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To: Faraday
It's the American-hating elites that have trouble understanding the obvious.

This is true. No doubt. But please explain the mentality behind our "more-conservative-than-thou" crowd to me. Theirs I just don't get. I mean, you can expect this from the Left (you can't blame a dog for being a dog). But what about these fine folks?


38 posted on 12/30/2003 8:05:22 PM PST by rdb3 (The only problem I have with conservatism is conservatives.)
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To: autoresponder; Indy Pendance
After nine months, CNN is finally paying attention to the primary news source on Iraq. (^;
CENTCOM
NEWS RELEASE
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND
7115 South Boundary Boulevard
MacDill AFB, Fla. 33621-5101
Phone: (813) 827-5894; FAX: (813) 827-2211; DSN 651-5894

December 30, 2003
Release Number: 03-12-78


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


SIGNIFICANT WEAPONS CACHE CONFISCATED

TIKRIT, Iraq – Task Force Ironhorse Second Infantry’s Arrowhead Brigade soldiers discovered a significant weapons cache southeast of Samarra in the morning of Dec. 29. Some of the items located were found in a false wall.

The cache consisted of 43 rocket-propelled grenade launchers, 79 rocket-propelled grenades, 19 AK-47 assault rifles, one machine gun, one 40mm grenade launcher, six 60mm mortar tubes with base plates, 7,920 rounds of 7.62mm ammunition, more than 160 mortar rounds, 34 100mm BMP rounds, six rifle grenades, 40 82mm fuses, two 40mm grenades, 25 fragmentary grenades, five pounds of artillery propellant, 16 mortar primers, a significant amount of C4 and TNT, one assembled improvised explosive device and materials to make additional devices.

Al Qaeda literature and videotapes were also found as well as a British made ceramic body armor plate with a bullet hole. This is an indication that the enemy faction was testing the personal protection plate’s ability to withstand expended anti-personnel ammunition.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1048848/posts

39 posted on 12/30/2003 8:14:48 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ( "Our military is full of the finest people on the face of the earth." ~ Pres. Bush, Baghdad)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks, I completely missed your thread. I usually try to read them all, they are so informative.
40 posted on 12/30/2003 8:17:19 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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