"What do Islamic terrorists and Democrats have in common?"

New Conservative Revolution ^ | 25 December 2003 | N.C.R.

[Delta 21]

[shhrubbery!]

Both hope Bin Laden is never captured or killed

Mostly on target, but I have to disagree with that one.

They want Bin Laden to be captured or killed -- but only by a Democrat president.

[JusPasenThru]

i dont care what the others say i think you are relly, really smart. you make reall good points. you must be one of them hi scool peeple. you thinks you know nothin but you know everthink.

[CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC]

"Peace Nazi" is okay, I guess. But I prefer a kinder gentler approach. Perhaps I should call it a "philosophical approach". For over 2 years now I have been facing the other side of the street with a huge sign that says, "PACIFISTS ARE FREEDOM'S PARASITES".

[kimmie7]

Begone! You have no power here!

[Skooz]

He said that we were going to war because of WMD.

No. He didn't.

[Bush] wasnt even elected.

Sure he was. He won Florida five times.

BECAUSE THEY COMPLETELY MESSED UP OUR ECONOMY.

The economy is now recovering from the Clinton recession quite strongly, thanks in part to the tax cuts your side is so insanely against.

Reagon destroyed our economy with deficit spending

The Reagan boom began the first quarter of 1983 and lasted until the year 2000. Far from "destroying" the economy, Reagan's policies saved it from the Carter era hyperinflation and absurdly high interest rates. Not to mention stiflingly high taxes that hindered the creation of jobs.

I am against forcing people that are not christian to deal with it though.

I assume to "deal with it," you mean having to hear someone say "Merry Christmas." Christians are a-okay with you people, as long as they stay in the closet and never talk to anyone about their faith huh?

The remainder of your witless (and utterly void of fact) diatribe against reason is just as easily refuted, but frankly it is no challenge at all to annihilate so dissecting it has become boring. Plus, it's getting late and I really need to get to bed.

Wake up from your liberal haze. Face facts. All you have done here is sloganeering with no truth behind the chopped and chiseled evocative shock phrases that pass for erudition in liberal circles.

[Swordmaker]

You ought to donate yours to a homeless person.

Cult, you missed it. This creep can't afford a computer so it must be using one in the public library.

[Bella]

Hey, why did you come over to this thread now, don't you like the group on the other thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1050693/posts?page=327

[Bella]

No, Jim said we can keep him awhile. See above message.

[nopardons]

That's priceless. LOL

[CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC]

[Bush] wasnt even elected.
Sure he was. He won Florida five times.

Not only that, but many weeks after the election when that group of various media organizations finally finished going through all the ballots, examining the chads and coming up with all kinds of new totals based on a variety of counting methodologies, they found that no matter which counting methods you used and no matter which Florida counties you recounted and which you did not recount, Gore still lost (by narrower margins in some cases and wider margins in other cases) in EVERY ONE of the scenarios that the Democrats had sued for in court.

So even if they had WON the Supreme Court decision, it would have made no difference in the election, other than to draw it out and delay the final result by some weeks. This inconvenient fact is of course ignored by liberals who claim repeatedly that GWB "stole the election" or that "the Supreme Court elected/appointed GWB, not the voters".

Part of the problem is that all the big media outlets completely ignored or mostly ignored the results of this media-sponsored recount. If it had turned up a Florida majority for Gore, then the media would have made it into the story of the century. But since it reconfirmed the election results, they ignored it so that it wouldn't conflict with the Liberals cherished myth of a "stolen election".

[SierraWasp]

Heck, he spells worser and uses dumber english than thuh Waspman evur dun!!! Corse, I gots me an exquse. I wuz edukayted in a little wun room skoolhouse in thuh Lando Linkun!!!

[BraveMan]

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998



"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998



"Iraq is a long way from here, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998



"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998



"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998



"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998



"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999



"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001



"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002



"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002



"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002



"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002



"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002



"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-if necessary-to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002



"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockeffer (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002



"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002



"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002



"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002



Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

[Urbane_Guerilla]

Both condone buggering.

Contemplate your remark.

[gatorbait]

How old are you? 15? Cannot be much older, at least not emotionally, and you're on the lower end of it for all that.
You can't spell.You cannot reason cognitively or lineally.You have not an original thought posted here, and each of these have already been well and thoroughly disproven. Tell me little one,really, do you actually believe any of this tripe? Do you really, in your heart of hearts, think liberals, who cut monies off, forced the Military to do without, launched them on missions of dubious import and ,in fact, applauded a thug who publically and historically stated his "loathing " for the military? Do you? Or are you simply an underaged fool of little intellect and less integrity? I do hope you'll soon grace us with your wit and wisdom.We all are fascinated with your depth and maturity.Tell us all, show us all....please ...

[McCloud-Strife]

"What do Islamic Terrorists have in common with Liberals..." 1. No, Liberals are not opposed to the overthrow of Hussein. They were just pissed off at Bush for LYING to AMERICA. He said that we were going to war because of WMD. GUESS WHAT, they never found any in Iraq. Guess what we did find, OIL. Guess whose company is being paid to rebuild Iraq, CHANEYS. That isnt fishy at all.

There are two companies in the world that can build refineries, military facilities, sea ports, set up a fuel transportation network, that has the contacts in that area of the world. One is Haliburton, the other is ELF, a French company... Guess which company was not invited to the party because their country is a treasonous backstabber to it's "friends"?
Oh yeah, it's all about oil just when am I going to see some that oil here, I am sick of $1.55 for gas

If you people would be more observent, you would notice what happened. Bush just ripped you all off. He destroyed a country so that he could pay his buddies to rebuild it. He took tax payer money and sent it straigt to his buddies pockets. I dont care how dumb you are, you have to at least understand that much. 2) Support the overthrow of Bush? He wasnt even elected. He was appointed by the Supreme Court. Have you ever heard of a coup? Didnt think so. And to all you idiots that think Gore was the whiney one that filed all the law suits and "wasted tax payer money". Bush filed EVERY single law quit first, look it up.

In every scenario that the NY Times, ABC,CBS,NBC or any other news outlet wanted to run, Bush Won every time. What the US supreme court halted was a rewrite of existing rules to support your candidate. It does not matter how Gore wanted the votes counted and how many times he tried, it does not even matter that he threw out votes from service members overseas, GORE LOST, get over it, seriously dude.

3) Elated by a crippled Economy? No one likes a bad economy. You know One reason why I dont like this administration? BECAUSE THEY COMPLETELY MESSED UP OUR ECONOMY.

Really? I suppose Terry McAulifs 2002 boast that every 100 points the dow goes down is another seat for Democrats in the House was just our collective imaginations

4) We are not upset at all about the economy starting to recover. Keep in mind it isnt close to what it was under Clinton. Furthermore, the economy is screwed to hell, Not because of W. Bush, Or Clinton, or H. Bush. Reagon destroyed our economy with deficit spending, something W. Bush likes quite a bit.

The past resession began in June 2000 before Bush even received the Nomination. The past trend in the stock market plummeting began not long after Microsoft became a key indicator of the Dow when the Clinton Justice Department decided it was going after Microsoft as a Monopoly, causing a huge sell off first in that stock, followed by many tech stocks. However you will note I said past. The Dow is back over 10000 again and the resession ended in October 2002. Not very screwed up if you ask me 7.2% 3rd Quarter growth is astounding.

5) Apposed to the religious Aspects of Christmas? I love celebrating the birth of christ every year, it is my favorite holiday. I am against forcing people that are not christian to deal with it though.

Funny, I don't recall celebrating Christmas this year, there was some sort of holiday sometime around the last week of December, but the specific mention of which holiday seems absent where ever I seem to look

6) Liberals are not sympathetic to the Hamaas. I am sympathetic to the fact that we completely abuse the rights of other people. I am sympathetic to the people we kill, and have killed so that we can make more money, consume more oil, and polute more areas.

the three big basic rights are life liberty and the persuit of happiness, odd, Hamas would deny Israel all three yet it's Howard Dean who wants Hamas and Israel on the same level playing field in the eyes of US foreign policy. As if Israelis defending themselves from terrorist attacks is the same as a teenage militant walking into a resteraunt and blowing himself and a dozen other non-combatants to pieces. Surely you can see the difference, yes?

Furthermore, I think you people need to note that Isreal is the product of the most succesful Terrorist movement ever. A radical religious gourp seizes land, declares it their own, Kills all who challenge this, and imprison the rest. Wait, that is Isreal. Palestinians are not guilt-free either. The terrorist activity MUST stop, however, we must also stop funding and supporting the constant isreali attacks on innocent people.

Israel is currently the only civilied democracy in the entire middle east, though thanks the Bush that's about to change, no thanks to most Democrats in leadership. When a nationa acts in it's own defence according to the geneva conventions (which Israel is a member, and oddly enough Hamas is not), then you don't have terrorism. Innocent people do not strap bombs on themselves and blow up children. Innocent people do not teach their children to kill jews and reach paradise by Jihad, Innocent people do not have stated goals of driving the jews to the sea

7) Of course we hope he is captured, he is a terrible person. Maybe if the Government wernt so incompotent they would have cought him a couple of years ago...

He? I wonder if you mean Usama Bin Ladin, the guy Bill Clinton did not turn down extradition, not once, not twice, but three times and this is after he murdered several members of the military, and destroyed two Embassies, and hit the World Trade Center in 1993. Me personally, I rather confident UBL assumed room temperature, well what was left of him did in December 2001 in the Tora bora region which we bombed up to the stone age from the state it was in.

8) Liberals have control of the media? Liberals dont have control of the media, nor do conservatives. Giant Corporations have control over it, and whatever makes them more money is what they do. If that means having a Conservative bias (which is the case right now) then thats what they will do.

NBC,CBS,ABC,NYTIMES,LATIMES,CNN,MSNBC,WASHINGTONPOST,NPR,PBS,NEWSWEEK,AOLTIMEWARNER... yes, no liberal bias in the vast majority of news and information sources Just huge mega corporations that just all happened on pure chance to go left almost any chance they get, your right

9) Well, lets see here. Liberals are the ones that support free speach, along with other rights. Conservatives are the ones that try to censor everyone. Furthermore, Conservatives are the ones that try to force christianity on every public school student in the US.

who said anything about forcing anyone to do anything. Christians are the ones silenced because it may offend someone somewhere at sometime. All my desire to worship in a way that I see fit offends is the ACLU who wants under God out the pledge of Allegience, the Navy to quit praying before meals, in god we trust off our currency, who oppses any judge who might show the slightest inkling of being Christian as anything more than lip service? Who's silencing who?

10) You are correct, both do hate Big Buisness. Why? Because they completely erode democracy and are destroying the world we live in.

Never got a job from a poor person, have you? If you don't like big business, start with yourself, divest yourself of all the evil trappings of big business, start with that computer your using, then we can dump the contents of your fridge, next unplug your TV set and throw that out. Finally get rid of the evil big corporation car your drive. Then you can build yourself a nice mud hut, rubbing sticks together for warmth, building a stable for your new horse and grow your own food, like a good little Serf. No big evil corporations will bother you then. Start with yourself before you worry about how others live

11) Right, we are to stupid to become wealthy. We are to stupid to rip off the poor. We are to stupid to take advantage of those less fortunate. We are to stupid to destroy the economy we rely on bying making the poor poorer and the rich richer. Ignorance is your game. And you are winning.

actually I disagree with you. I mean the war of poverty spent $5 trillion of tax payer money over 30 years, enough to buy every single fortune 500 company and give all the poor a real job. That didn't happen, but what we did get is generations of destroyed families, single parents and welfare queens who got paid more when they had more kids, so guess what happened? You got more kids with unstable familes, increased crime, and general disrespect for society. I would say if all that eases your guilty conscience all well and good, you want to help the poor, use your own damn pocket and give a little more yourself there chum. I prefer to choose where and which charities I want to help, Uncle Sam is notorious for making poor choices in this department

12) No, I have profound respect for the PEOPLE in the military, well some of them. Some of them? You could not shine their shoes sirHere is the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals care about the people in the military and dont want to waste their lives in needless war. Conservatives dont give a shit about those people and will send them off to war for shitz and giggles (but mainly to improve their stock prices)...

Carter loved the miltary so much he cut funding for it across the board dropping readiness and spare parts dangerously low.
Clinon liked the military so he gutted the military by a third and quadrupled deployments to the point Clinton had created more missions for the troops to fulfill than every president since Roosevelt combined. He respected the servicemen so much he groped enlisted women working on Airforce One, let the soldiers of the USS Cole, Khobar towers and two embassies die in vain. He wanted a strong military, so that's why not one major weapon system was developed in 8 years of office. He showed his respect by bombing the heck out Iraq in 1998 with almost every precsion weapon in the US inventory and then didn't bother to replace them. Clinton cared so much for troops they never got a pay raise with him. Young married troops could expect to be gone 3-6 months every year WHILE on welfare. That really shows the compassion of a liberal to the military. We're just a tool that looks cool on TV to be used and thrown away. I am on my third president and I will tell you this, I will take my chances with this one, and I would go to Iraq in a heartbeat, because I believe in this man and this mission. Some things are worth dying for and if you cannot see that simple truth, perhaps you could try and convince the Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Russians, Czecks and other victems of Hitler, they might see things differently

13) No, I dont wish christians were silenced. I wish that conservatives would stop MANIPULATING jesus and using him for political ends! 14) Well, technically, we are all allies of France and Germany as American Citizens. I mean, I know you guys dont like people that are different in anyway. I know that you dont like countries that use their minds to solve things peacfuly as apposed to killing everything in sight.

Odd how most of the wars over the last 1000 years started in Europe and the last two big ones took the US to stop. No one and I mean no one goes more out of their way to avoid unnessecary damage and civilian deaths. You will note we invented things like laser guided bombs and JDAMS because in world war two you had to level an entire town with hundreds of bombers and thousands of casualties just to get at one factory or building, because you could not be sure if you got it, then you come back later with double the force to make sure you got it all. I am sorry you don't see this. Take a walk in Baghdad and show me the vast ruins of what was once a city. I took a walk in Dresden last week, I got to see what we did 60 years ago still on the buildings there. You gotta look hard for something similar in Baghdad

15) Im sorry. I apologize for liberals around the world. I forgot we wernt supposed to care about human rights. Who was it that once said Love thy neighbor...? I think it starts with a J...

Bush helped liberate 20 Million in Afghanistan you remeber those wacky Taliban executing women for not wearing their Burkas correctly? , 25 Million in Iraq the human shredders are quiet now and the killing fields are not being filled anymore... what have you done for human rights lately? Mr J also told his disciples before he died that if they did not have a sword to sell their cloaks and buy one. The threat of armed force is the only way the meek will inherit the earth
16) Both have been getting their "ass" kicked by GW? THat dosnt even make sense. But OKAY.

Your right, after all, the ass kicking of democrats started in 1994 when we took back congress, I mean Bush had nothing to do with that, or the loss of the majority of governorships either

Bin Laden would prolly vote for Bush, that way he has an excuse to attack more americans. Besides, Bin Laden owes his freedom to Bush anyway.
Dead people only vote in Chicago, but if he could and had a penchant for doing so, he might want to thank Clinton for letting him go free to continue his regin of terror against the world. If he is alive, he's probably to busy to vote for Patty Murry of Washington who said UBL is admired because he built day care centers, or Howard Dean who in no way would be much interested in a war on terror outside useless resolutions in the UN, or Jim McDermott also of Washington. Maybe he'll write in Martin Sheen, after all, that is one branch of government liberals still control, the West Wing
Wow. I feel sorry for you people. Truly, truly stupid.
You took the words out of my mouth, you are a wretch and pathetic, but your also fun to poke at with a stick

I know you are, but what am I.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

I feel sorry for someone as angry and unhappy as you. I really do.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Good post.

[Brad’s Gramma]

BTTT so I can read your enlightening post.

[Texaggie79]

Dude, if you are going to even attempt to appear intelligent here, you need to reply to the valid rebuttal by other posters.

If you post and run, you will be viewed an unable to defend your positions.

I understand most here will simply name call, as you have done to some extent, but you will find many here that will take you up on your points and address each of them.