Egypt Airliner CRASHED in Egypt - A final update on root cause analysis? Technical Fault Blamed

Various | 1/3/2004 | ME

[Quilla]

Thank you.

[_Jim]

FoxNews still not mentioning this CRASH.

Oh, horrors.

This 'news', BTW, is all over GOOGLE NEWS though.

REAL effective 'coverup' huh?

[thesummerwind]

Of course it would be a "technical fault", and therefore not newsworthy.

It was probably the same as that out-of-control food cart that rolled down the ailse to the back of Flight 587 and destroyed the tailfin!

This is just another coverup once more, and FoxNews is talking about Bruce Willis' fashion sense, Fear Factor, and celebrity poker.

What a world!!! And the people sleep.

ALERT --- FoxNews is talking about it now --technical malfunction! -- a seven second news piece! Yeh, that food cart again.

[Freeper]

where the water is hundreds of meters (feet) deep --

Imagine how surprised they will be when they realize that a meter is more than a YARD long and not a "feet (foot)" as reported.

[thesummerwind]

The officials said it's not a conspiracy, so it must be a conspiracy!

What official mentioned "conspiracy"? Got an answer?

Every time people like you introduce the word, "conspiracy" to a discussion, you do so to bring illegitamacy to others' concerns. Real lame on your part.

[Henk]

sounds like a bomb

I think that's pretty standard for airplane crashes. The aluminum fuselage basically turns into a blender upon impact.

[SkyPilot]

"There is no sign of terrorism."

Sheesh. Accident investigations take months to complete!

Good grief. The Egyptians are so quick to end this inquirey before it has even begun.

Not to mention that when an Air Egypt Islamic maniac pilot T-handled both engines and aimed for the ocean (and said on the CVR recorded the struggle between him and the captain!!!) the Egyptians would not believe the facts.

[_Jim]

Thank you.

You're welcome.

I'm fully willing to accept any conclusion in the final analysis so long as it's based on *all* the evidence (not just a 'conspiratorial excerpt' that supports some pet theory) utilizing the latest scientific processing/processes for (for evidence processing) and sound analysis of that evidence by a competent, assembled board of seasoned aeronautical experts.

[thesummerwind]

Here's a simple explanation - they don't think it's worth reporting until they get more facts.

Now that is a reasonable suggestion.

But as I said, this same news coverage pattern occurred when Flight 587 went down in New York. Blair was there and there is so much more, but my bet is on terrorism, and the French and Egyptians will most likely not admit it for fear of losing tourist $$$$'s.

We'll see, or maybe we won't see. Do you have conclusions on Flight 800, by the way?

[thesummerwind]

Didn't the first reports say there was no indication from the plane that there was a problem?

Yes, and those reports have been deep-sixed, just like the original eye witness reports in New York with Flight 587. First witnesses then reported an explosion AWAY from the tail, and then, all of a sudden, their reports disappeared. I watched the whole sequence of coverage that morning. This is identical!!! This is classic coverup, IMO.

[TaxRelief]

No eye-witness reports of an explosion or surface-to-air missile.

No sounds of an explosion.

No significant number of the enemies of Al-Qaida (or is France on their doo-doo list, now?) on board.

No groups taking credit for the crash.

No dancing in the streets.

None of the things we expect to see when terrorism is involved.

We need to wait for the black boxes or more info before we can even start guessing.

[longjack]

"Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" is saying the same thing. This is the lead paragraph:

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excerpt..

3 January 2004: A technical breakdown caused the plane crash with 148 deaths in Egypt, according to information from the Deputy French Minister of Transport Dominique Bussereau. Shortly after takeoff the plane had a "problem" said Bussereau in Paris on Saturday. The plane crashed into the Red Sea in the attempt to return to the airport at Scharm Al Scheich.

"Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung"....Boeing mit Touristen abgestürzt - 148 Tote

Translated by longjack

P.S. Thanks for bumping the first post to the other thread.

[thesummerwind]

The flight had a problem on takeoff .........I'd say so.

[thesummerwind]

Yeh .... the old fog thing! Nah!

[GeronL]

They won't wait for all the evidence. read the papers on Sunday... watch TV News.... "an apparent technical malfunction caused the plane..."

[Thinkin' Gal]

French anti-terrorism authorities in Paris said they did not expect to open an investigation, since the crash appears to be an accident.

Looks like they are jumping to conclusions before the facts are in. That's okay, apparently, if one says, "nothing to see here just move along." Just don't think it *might* be terrorism, and you're alright.

Looks like these folks departed Egypt in a Flash, yet they drowned in the Red Sea.

An undated handout picture taken at the Roissy airport, north of Paris, shows a Boing 737 belonging to the private Egyptian company Flash Airlines. A charter plane of the egyptian company carrying mostly French tourists has crashed in the Red Sea, 03 January 2004 near Sharm-el-Sheikh. The passengers and crew were killed in the crash.(AFP-HO)

[Quilla]

Many TWA 800 conspiracy theories were lent a bit of credibility after Stephanopoulis' infamous live comment on September 11:

"There are facilities in the White House, not the normal situation room, which everyone has seen in the past, has seen pictures of. There is a second situation room, behind the primary situation room, which has video conferencing capabilities. The director of the Pentagon, the defense chief, can speak from a national military command center at the Pentagon. The Secretary of State can speak from the State Department, the President from wherever he is, and they'll have this capability for video conferencing throughout this crisis." "In my time at the White House it was used in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, in the aftermath of the TWA Flight 800 bombing, and that would be the way they would stay in contact through the afternoon."

[thesummerwind]

Sweet Jim is one of those even-tempered, level-headed folks who we should all bow to at times such as this, don't you know? He may just be related to Arlen 'Scottish Law/Single Bullet' Spector afterall. He notes coyly that no one should "jump to confusion." Isn't he wise?