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Dean Narrowing Separation of Church and Stump; Invokes Muslim Phrases; Claims Biblical Knowledge
New York Times ^
| January 4, 2004
| JODI WILGOREN
Posted on 01/03/2004 6:23:24 PM PST by nwrep
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To: freebilly
Howard Dean figured he'd get the Union vote by mentioning the book of Jobs....Sure, everyone wants a Job. I wonder how he pronounced the word?
To: madprof98
Sadly, I think those people might be in the majority, and nonsense like this won't bother them a bit, even if it should reach their ears. True. But what even most of those people do not like in a candidate is someone who is blatently pretending to be something he's not. And that is the main issue with this hilarious screw-up.
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posted on
01/03/2004 7:54:26 PM PST
by
Texas_Dawg
(Go, Dean, Go.)
To: madprof98
But they don't claim to be believing Christians, do they?
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posted on
01/03/2004 7:55:01 PM PST
by
nwrep
To: nwrep
"Some would argue, you know, in some of the books of the New Testament, the ending of the Book of Job is different," he said. OK, somebody replace "New Testament" with "Old Testament" in this quote, and explain to me how it makes any more sense.
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posted on
01/03/2004 7:55:05 PM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: nwrep
This story read like a Saturday night Live SKIT!!! JOB in the NEW Testament!! Geesh, Louise!! What a DUMBBASS! (notice the spelling AM)!! LOOOOOOOSER.....although he KNOWS that the people he is talking to are ALSO stupid.
To: spectre
I hope I don't embarrass myself, as I'm certainly not a biblical scholar, but wasn't there references of Job bedding his daughters? Or was it Jeremiah? If I'm correct that would be the source of Dean's notions of Southerners. He thinks they all ride around in pickup trucks with Confederate flags, a hound dog, a six-pack on their laps, and way too much inbreeding. </sarcasm> };^D)
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posted on
01/03/2004 8:01:20 PM PST
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RJayneJ
To: Texas_Dawg
Howard Dean would make a great Sunday School teacher.Based on Howard Dean's knowledge of Scripture, I'd say he's doing a pretty good job of keeping Church and State separated....
To: nwrep
Asked his favorite New Testament book, Dr. Dean named Job, adding: "But I don't like the way it ends." "Some would argue, you know, in some of the books of the New Testament, the ending of the Book of Job is different..." As a wise man once said "The more you try the more you die." He should have never gone down this road. Most people would be cool with a candidate who didn't invoke religion. And they'd certainly be happier with that than a candidate who pretends to be religious but obviously has no clue what he's talking about.
I can't even make out what he thinks he's talking about. Does he think the Bible contains multiple versions of Job?
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posted on
01/03/2004 8:02:04 PM PST
by
MattAMiller
(Saddam has been brought to justice in my name. How about yours?)
To: sgtbono2002
Wonder "if the hair stands up on his neck" iwhen he'
s in those black Churches, like he said it stood up when he was the only white person in a college dorm room???? What a MARROOOOOON.
To: Fifth Business
Sure, everyone wants a Job. I wonder how he pronounced the word?He pronounced it "Affirmative Action"....
To: freebilly
Howard's problem is he's mistaking the dems. ability to get the dead vote every election with actually raising the dead.
To: MattAMiller
Does he think the Bible contains multiple versions of Job?He must have a Democrat version of the Bible. In that version God restores everything Job has lost, then the government comes and taxes him on Capital Gains....
To: mhking
"It doesn't make me more religious or less religious than I was before, but it means that I'm willing to talk about it in different ways." LOL, whatever gives me votes
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posted on
01/03/2004 8:15:09 PM PST
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Victoria Delsoul
(Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
To: mhking
Separation of Church and StumpI love this expression!
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posted on
01/03/2004 8:17:12 PM PST
by
Howlin
(Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
To: small voice in the wilderness
he's mistaking the dems. ability to get the dead vote every election with actually raising the dead.Maybe Dean can raise some of those who committed Arkancide around x42....
To: Kuksool
The Campaign-in-the-Black Church-strategy backfired considerably for former California Gov. Gray Davis. Even with Bill Clinton in tow.
...Unfortunately if any GOP candidate were to do what the Dims have made a science for decades, the Media would have a collective conniption, as well as the ACLU, People For the (Un)American Way, "Rev" Barry Linn, and Robert Nedow calling for the guy's resignation. This is a double standard that should be challenged more strongly by our Republican elected officials in both houses of the Congress; pressure needs to be placed on the IRS to threaten revocation of these churches' tax-free exemptions, period. The Pastors in question should also be penalized by their peers for allowing such nonsense to take place in God's House. This sort of thing is NEVER permitted at my church, thank heavens.
-Regards, T.
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01/03/2004 8:21:07 PM PST
by
T Lady
(Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
To: RJayneJ
That would be Lot. Three letters. Easy to confuse with Job. :^)
To: MeeknMing
...and while I'm agreeing with him, I'm standing there with a Bush-Cheney '04 lapel pin on my trenchcoat. Hehe...
To: Texas_Dawg
"I hope your boss's fund-raiser is a huge success."I love the smell of dem money flushing down the toilet in the morning! Smells like victory!
To: Kuksool
Deans sudden interest is to incite the southern white/black moderate vote. He's striving to move to the center in his own pathetic way.
The GOP has shunned the black churches.
Really? Maybe Republicans are just more honest about their faith and don't pander like the Democrat party candidates.
As a result, blacks became "Broken Glass Democratic Voters" for Bill Clinton.
I don't agree. Black votes have predominately gone to the Democrat party and have never become "broken glass" (a term that should only be used with the word Republican behind it ; imho) Democrat voters.
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