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False rumor led to a law
The Sacramento Bee ^ | Jan 5 2004 | Eric Stern

Posted on 01/05/2004 5:38:21 AM PST by runningbear

False rumor led to a law

False rumor led to a law

Life insurance notification bill was prompted by talk in Laci Peterson case.

By Eric Stern -- Bee Capitol Bureau Published 2:15 a.m. PST Monday, January 5, 2004

Though well-intentioned, Assemblyman Dave Cogdill relied on false rumors about the Laci Peterson case to push changes in insurance laws at his wife's urging. It started in January 2003, when Cogdill, a Republican from Modesto, and his wife, Stephanie, heard a news update about Peterson.

The pregnant Modesto resident had disappeared a few weeks earlier, around Christmas Eve. The story was making the rounds in the national media, and the whodunit talk centered on her husband, Scott Peterson.

The Cogdills heard on the radio that weekend that Scott Peterson was having an affair and had taken out a $250,000 life insurance policy on his wife after she got pregnant.

Cogdill's wife asked if it was possible to insure someone without them knowing it.

"I think there ought to be a law against that kind of thing," she told her husband.

Cogdill agreed to look into it. And when he returned to the Capitol the following Monday, his staff began researching the issue.

Feb. 20, Cogdill introduced a bill to require companies to notify people when life insurance policies are taken out on them.

The legislation cleared committee hearings and floor debate in the Assembly and Senate without much discussion. No one voted against it. Gov. Gray Davis signed it July 26.

By then, the bodies of Laci Peterson and her son, Conner, had been found in San Francisco Bay, and her husband was facing double-murder charges. He is scheduled to stand trial beginning Jan. 26, although that date likely will be delayed.

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Pregnant Amber Frey testimony considered

Article Last Updated: Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 8:07:17 AM PST

Pregnant Amber Frey testimony considered Observers speculate on

By MODESTO BEE

MODESTO -- The prospect of a visibly pregnant Amber Frey taking the stand in the double-murder trial of her former lover, Scott Peterson, could introduce yet another intriguing dynamic, some legal observers say.

"She will remind you that the victim was pregnant, too," said prominent Los Angeles defense attorney Harland Braun.

The victim was Peterson's wife, Laci, who was about eight months pregnant when she was reported missing on Christmas Eve last year.

Frey, 28, is about five months along and the pregnancy is beginning to show, a source said. The father is a Fresno man and former business associate of Frey who helped console the massage therapist after she learned that Peterson was the prime suspect in a high-profile murder case, the source said.

Scott Peterson's trial is scheduled to begin Jan. 26 in Stanislaus County Superior Court, although the date could be pushed back. Also, his attorneys have asked to have the trial moved, because of the publicity in and around Stanislaus County; such requests can take months.

Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for the 31-year-old fertilizer salesman from Modesto. "There is no question it would play to (prosecutors') advantage if the trial occurred when she is obviously great with child," said Modesto defense attorney Ernie Spokes, a former prosecutor.

Aside from Frey possibly evoking sympathy, Spokes said, prosecutors may need every shred of evidence in what so far has shaped up to be a case relying heavily on circumstantial evidence.

Many observers speculate that Frey could provide key testimony. She had been dating Peterson for a little more than a month when his pregnant wife went missing. Six days later, as news reports multiplied, Frey contacted police and began taping her telephone conversations with Peterson, a detective testified at his preliminary hearing.

One transcript released at the hearing showed Peterson dodging Frey's questions about his missing wife and the unborn child he had never mentioned. He said he was "longing to hold onto" Frey, according to the transcript.

Braun, also a former prosecutor, said he would not hesitate to call Frey if he were the district attorney. But, "it's all witchcraft to even speculate" on how Peterson's attorney, Mark Geragos of Los Angeles, would approach cross-examination if the pregnancy is obvious, Braun said.

"You probably can't judge (strategy for questions) until you hear Amber Frey's testimony," said Braun, a friend of Geragos. "That's why a trial is so dynamic. It's one of those decisions you make while running on the field, when you see what the obstacles are."

Bernard Grimm, a Washington, D.C., defense attorney, agreed that Geragos probably will not decide how to handle Frey until the moment arrives.

But Spokes said aggressive questioning can backfire if jurors think an attorney treats a witness unfairly -- especially a vulnerable witness.

"That sets a negative tone that's hard to get around," Spokes said. "You have be very .........

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Pretrial circus threatens justice

Posted 1/4/2004 10:08 PM

Pretrial circus threatens justice

By Ronald Goldfarb

In the repeated debates about the impact of TV on celebrated trials, the wrong questions are being asked, the right ones are not and the most prominent questioner is the chief cause of the problem.

Michael Jackson's highly publicized arrest has prompted the latest blather about prejudicial publicity. First the investigating officials held a press conference before there was an indictment. Then pseudo-pundits began saturating the airwaves with opinions about the case, even though few, if any, facts were known. Finally, Michael Jackson felt compelled to tell his side of the story in an interview broadcast Dec. 28 by CBS' 60 Minutes.

By the time Jackson, Kobe Bryant or Scott Peterson ever gets to trial, if they ever do, the public will have read and seen so much media coverage about their cases that the defendants will have been judged in the courts of public opinion without the benefit of trials.

When it comes to TV publicity and fairness in celebrated cases, debate most often centers on cameras in the courtroom. In fact, televised trials are as decorous, judicious and calm as trials without cameras, arguably more so. People behave better, as a rule, when they are being observed.

What is obnoxious and frightening is the circus outside the courthouses: fleets of media trucks, armies of cameras and pursuits by paparazzi. It is not the camera in the court that is the problem, but the one thrust at silent parties, departing sedans, participants entering public buildings or studio-based "experts" theorizing about what might be happening at any given moment. Despite all the media attention, the public is provided with no substantive information.

Juries, not TV, determine outcome

We won't know whether Peterson killed his wife, Laci, until the evidence emerges at his trial; nor whether Bryant committed rape in addition to adultery; nor whether Jackson was being extorted or is guilty of child molestation charges.

Still, in the many days leading up to the eventual trials, the public will be exposed to hours upon hours of mind-numbing analyses by commentators who offer little but bloviating blather — paradoxically, about whether all their sturm und drang will prejudice the subsequent trial.

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Wow, for some odd reason, this pdf doc is not viewable on the pressrelease court docs site:

Superior Court, Stanislaus County

January 2, 2004

Opposition to Motion for Change of Venue; Declaration of Dr. Ebbe Ebbesen, Mark Smith, Caitriona Goss; Points and Authorities in Opposition to Change of Venue

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Dec 2003 filings

the above link is for last month's and Jan 23nd court filings.

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For those wanting to know the next court date:Courtroom Seating for January 8th

Posted on Friday, January 2 2004 at 4:49 PM PST ----

Requests for Courtroom Seating will be accepted on TUESDAY, January 6, 2004 beginning at 8:00 am (PST).

Fax the request to the Superior Court of Stanislaus County at (209) 525-6385. DO NOT send it prior to 8:00 am - it will not be accepted. The fax line will close to requests at 3:00 pm that same day.

1 posted on 01/05/2004 5:38:22 AM PST by runningbear
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2 posted on 01/05/2004 5:40:33 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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To: Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; TexKat; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; ...
Hi all, been on a great vacation... Back at work, and busy day at that too. Thanks all for all the postings. Hope you all had a great wonderful Happy Holidays.

Here is a little bit more from the continuing Scott Peterson case. ;o)

3 posted on 01/05/2004 5:40:58 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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Hi all, been on a great vacation... Back at work, and busy day at that too. Thanks all for all the postings. Hope you all had a great wonderful Happy Holidays.

Here is a little bit more from the continuing Scott Peterson case. ;o)

4 posted on 01/05/2004 5:41:30 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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Hi all, been on a great vacation... Back at work, and busy day at that too. Thanks all for all the postings. Hope you all had a great wonderful Happy Holidays.

Here is a little bit more from the continuing Scott Peterson case. ;o)

5 posted on 01/05/2004 5:42:00 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
I remember my mother telling me years, and years ago that you could not insure someone's life without their knowledge. In fact, isn't there a scene in Double Indemnity where the wife and evil insurance agent are cajoling the husband to sign the policy, or application? And that movie takes place in California, doesn't it?

I'm confused, but I got a guy I can ask, a real life insurance agent. I'll check with him.

As my mother also told me, it's not knowing, it's knowing where to find out.
6 posted on 01/05/2004 5:43:19 AM PST by jocon307 ( The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: jocon307
Then how do parents insure their minor children?

Do you mean that insuring needs consent?

I don't think that is the case... I remember years ago hearing about a murder case, in which a man insured his adult nephew, and then murdered him for the insurance claim.
8 posted on 01/05/2004 5:50:45 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Freedom is a package deal - with it comes responsibilities and consequences.)
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To: Baynative
heehee.... ;o) My...
9 posted on 01/05/2004 5:56:14 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: jocon307
the movie, think so. Sometime this early winter/spring on USA channel?

On the policy, hummmm, that would be some research for me too. But like the article states, a sum of money policy would involve a medical examination prior to signing.

10 posted on 01/05/2004 5:59:28 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
OK what's with this post?
I may have missed it but what was the "false rumor"? What's with the headline?
11 posted on 01/05/2004 6:04:44 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
did ya read the article from the Sacramento Bee, or the Modesto Bee. Should help explain the "false rumor".. ;o) Headline, got me there....
12 posted on 01/05/2004 6:06:53 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Another possible law would be a national registry of people whose lives are insured, so that someone could find out if a particular person had been insured. There have been many instances of someone dying and relatives clearing out his home, his known estate being distributed .... but nobody was aware that there was a life insurance policy that should be collected (or perhaps he had more than one policy and they didn't know about the second one).
13 posted on 01/05/2004 6:11:14 AM PST by DonQ
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To: DonQ
Another possible law would be a national registry of people whose lives are insured, so that someone could find out if a particular person had been insured. There have been many instances of someone dying and relatives clearing out his home, his known estate being distributed .... but nobody was aware that there was a life insurance policy that should be collected (or perhaps he had more than one policy and they didn't know about the second one).

Hee hee you really think the life insurance companies will go for that? Think of the millions of $$ that they save by not paying out in the circumstances you used.

14 posted on 01/05/2004 6:15:35 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; jocon307
I also remember hearing several years ago that a spouse could not take out a policy without the other spouses knowledge.

Like you said jocon, I recall this law came about (if it really did) because of a spousal murder for the life insurance.

If it didn't become law it is strange that there are a lot of people who think it did. Maybe it is just certain states that passed it.

15 posted on 01/05/2004 6:36:56 AM PST by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: jocon307
I have an insurance license.

For all individual life insurance contracts the insured must sign the application, except in the case of a minor. A parent can sign the minors application.

The only way a persons life can be insured under an individual policy without his/her knowledge is if their signature is forged. Group policies, the kind offered as part of the employment package are different.

16 posted on 01/05/2004 6:40:39 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (REAL men aren't Liberals)
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To: runningbear
Aaaahhhh, life is back to normal. Got my morning rb ping! :-)

Happy New Year everyone. I hope Sharon gets justice before it's over.

Pinz
17 posted on 01/05/2004 6:43:01 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: runningbear
Welcome back, Mrs. Runningbear! Honeymoon heaven, eh? So happy for you!
18 posted on 01/05/2004 7:09:51 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Balding_Eagle
I have achieved the tri-fecta of barbarity.

I smoke evil tobaccy. I drive an American SUV death machine. And, like yourself.....I am a corporate insurance bastard.

I couldn't be more proud.

Good morning.

19 posted on 01/05/2004 7:23:33 AM PST by laotzu
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To: runningbear
Welcome back newlywed!! Thanks for the new thread, looking foreword to Thurs.
We missed you!
20 posted on 01/05/2004 7:25:33 AM PST by Jackie-O ("The horror...the horror"- Col. Kurtz)
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