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Many see Bush immigration proposals as non-starter (Proposal Faces "Fierce" Resistence In House)
Reuters ^ | 01.07.04 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 01/07/2004 2:27:14 PM PST by Pubbie

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush dived into a heated political debate on Wednesday by proposing to create a class of legal "guest workers" in the United States, but analysts said it was doubtful the blueprint could gain congressional approval in this election year.

In a carefully balanced speech, Bush proposed giving some of the estimated 8 million to 14 million illegal immigrants in the country a way to gain three-year temporary work permits, but offered them no clear path to becoming U.S. citizens.

"Our laws should allow willing foreigners to enter our country and fill jobs that Americans are not filling. We must make our immigration laws more rational and more humane," Bush declared.

The proposal seemed calculated to win Bush Hispanic support ahead of the November presidential election while pleasing employers looking for workers to fill mainly manual, agricultural or low paid service jobs.

"The hype and misinformation that this speech will fuel in the immigrant community will be huge. Unfortunately, the excitement will far outweigh the real effect," said Jeff Goldman, an immigration lawyer with Testa, Hurwitz and Thibeault in Boston.

Bush was at pains to declare he was not offering amnesty for people who entered the United States illegally, but opponents of making concessions to the immigrants said that was exactly what he had done.

"This clearly is an amnesty. It provides not only amnesty but a reward for people who committed a felony by coming here illegally," said Rep. Elton Gallegly, a California Republican.

"There will be substantial opposition from Republicans, Democrats and millions of ordinary Americans once they realize what's involved," Gallegly told Reuters.

CAUTIOUS BACKING

While the proposals won some cautious backing from Hispanic groups and immigration backers, some analysts were doubtful that Bush would put much political muscle behind them in the face of fierce opposition from many in his own Republican political base.

"I don't think it's serious. Bush knows the politics. These proposals don't go far enough for most Democrats and they go too far for around 70 to 100 Republicans in the House of Representatives," said Steven Camarota, research director at the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors more stringent limits on immigration.

"Republican leaders in Congress won't want to bring up this issue, especially this year, because it divides them. Unless Bush twists their arms hard, this is going nowhere," he said.

Legal and illegal immigration to the United States, already at record levels in the 1990s, accelerated further after 2000 despite the economic slowdown, according to U.S. Census data.

From 2000 to 2002, net immigration to the United States averaged around 1.4 million per year, about half a million of whom entered or stayed in the country illegally.

Bush, who won around 35 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2000, would like to raise that proportion to 40 percent or higher this year. Even if he does nothing to push the proposals, the President will be able to incorporate them into his campaign message aimed at Hispanics.

"This makes no sense except political sense. It reeks of bad policy but screams of politics," said David Ray, assistant director of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a group campaigning for sharply reduced levels of immigration.

FAIR argued that the plan undermined homeland security, granted an amnesty for law-breakers, established a back door immigration program and threatened the jobs and wages of American workers.

On the other side of the debate, immigration backers were disappointed that the plan offered no clear path for illegal immigrants to become citizens.

"The initial proposal falls short in helping newcomers become fully integrated into our society, but we look forward to working with the administration and Congress to shape the final legislation," said Leonard Glickman, president of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, the country's oldest migration organization.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; guestworker; guestworkers; immigrantlist; immigration
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"This clearly is an amnesty. It provides not only amnesty but a reward for people who committed a felony by coming here illegally," said Rep. Elton Gallegly, a California Republican.

"There will be substantial opposition from Republicans, Democrats and millions of ordinary Americans once they realize what's involved," Gallegly told Reuters."

Go Gallegly! Go!

1 posted on 01/07/2004 2:27:15 PM PST by Pubbie
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2 posted on 01/07/2004 2:27:34 PM PST by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: Pubbie
Contact these GOP Congressmen - we need to flood their Fax machines and phone lines!

***REPUBLICAN HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS***




*Chairman Of The Committee, James Sensenbrenner*

Washington, D.C. Office
To write about issues pending in Congress, internships, flags, or tours, contact:
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Telephone: (202) 225-5101

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*Henry Hyde*

Washington D.C.
2110 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-4561
Fax: (202) 225-1166

*Howard Coble*

Washington, DC
2468 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515-3306
Phone: 202.225.3065
Fax: 202.225.8611

EMAIL: howard.coble@mail.house.gov

*Lamar Smith*

Washington D.C. Office
2231 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
202-225-4236
202-225-8628 fax

*Elton Gallegly*

Office of Congressman Elton Gallegly
2427 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-0523 Phone: (202) 225-5811
FAX: (202) 225-1100

*Bob Goodlatte*

Washington, DC Office:
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(202) 225-5431
(202) 225-9681 fax

*Steve Chabot*

Washington Office

129 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515

(202) 225-2216
(202) 225-3012 (fax)

*Bill Jenkins*

Congressman Bill Jenkins
1207 Longworth Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone No. (202) 225-6356
Fax. (202) 225-5714

*Chris Cannon*

Washington Office
118 Cannon House
Office Building
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Phone: (202) 225-7751
Fax: (202) 225-5629
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*Spencer Bachus*

Washington, D.C. Office
442 Cannon Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
202 225-4921 phone
202 225-2082 fax

*John Hostettler*

Washington, DC Office
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TEL: (202) 225-4636
FAX: (202) 225-3284

Email- John.Hostettler@mail.house.gov

*Mark Green*

Congressman Mark Green
1314 Longworth Bldg.
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-5665
Fax: (202) 225-5729

Mark.Green@mail.house.gov

*Ric Keller*

Washington Office:

419 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone (202) 225-2176
Fax (202) 225-0999

*Melissa Hart*

Washington, DC Office
1508 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Ph. 202-225-2565
Fx. 202-226-2274

*Jeff Flake*

Washington, DC Office Address:

424 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0301


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*Mike Pence*

In Washington DC
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*J. Randy Forbes*

WASHINGTON DC OFFICE
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*Steve King*

Washington, D.C. Office
Office of Congressman Steve King
1432 Longworth Office Building
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(202) 225-4426
Fax: (202) 225-3193

*John Carter*

Washington, D.C. Office
408 CHOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
(202) 225-3864

*Tom Feeney*

Washington, D.C. Office

323 Cannon House Office Building
Washington DC 20515
phone:(202) 225-2706
fax:(202) 226-6299

*Marsha Blackburn*

509 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
202-225-2811
202-225-3004 fax
3 posted on 01/07/2004 2:28:07 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Pubbie
"There will be substantial opposition from Republicans, Democrats and millions of ordinary Americans once they realize what's involved," Gallegly told Reuters.

He's right. Wouldn't it be ironic if this is the first bill GWB vetoes?

4 posted on 01/07/2004 2:29:46 PM PST by rintense
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To: Pubbie
There is a GOD, There is a GOD!
5 posted on 01/07/2004 2:30:54 PM PST by chicagolady (Jesus, Be my Magnificent Obsession)
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To: rintense
Bush is hopeless on this issue - we need to call Congressmen where there is the most opposition to this thing - Don't Give Up!!!
6 posted on 01/07/2004 2:31:37 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: chicagolady
Don't Give Up the Ghost Yet - The Battle Has Just Begun!!!
7 posted on 01/07/2004 2:32:07 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Pubbie
Go Mr. G go!! Stop this BS in its tracks!
8 posted on 01/07/2004 2:32:16 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: rintense
Its all calculated...No one said Bush isnt smart. It is not going to go through congress. And look at the last line of the proposal. "CONGRESS" has to write the legislation. This is doomed before it even starts...
9 posted on 01/07/2004 2:32:38 PM PST by futureceo31
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To: Pubbie
I think this program is ok if:

1. Federal and State income tax is withheld.
2. Medicaid fees are added as well as local town taxes to cover uninsured medical services.
3. A foreign worker payroll tax taken by local towns to cover the cost of educating the children.

In theory, this will help to pay for the "free" services given to illegals.

And, IMO, they do perform the jobs that nobody except felons, who can't get anything else, want.
10 posted on 01/07/2004 2:33:02 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
11 posted on 01/07/2004 2:33:48 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: futureceo31
That's what I said on another thread, half joking. If Congress has to sort this out, it will never make it to the President's desk. And all he has to do is say he tried. Boo hoo.
12 posted on 01/07/2004 2:34:03 PM PST by rintense
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To: futureceo31
That's what I said on another thread, half joking. If Congress has to sort this out, it will never make it to the President's desk. And all he has to do is say he tried. Boo hoo.
13 posted on 01/07/2004 2:34:06 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense
From the remarks I heard on talk shows dem's are all for this proposal and actually support it.
HUH? Why one has to ask?

Know what? As a Republican I can honestly say I do not support this proposal I am very much against it! Not that my opinion counts I guess.
14 posted on 01/07/2004 2:34:23 PM PST by stopem
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To: Pubbie
No taxes for our persecution
No taxes for Political Alibis

No selective prosecution of Americans
No selective Amnesty of Illegals

Amnesty for Americans
Save America, pay no taxes for your persecution
No taxes for persecuting children with your idols
The end is neigh, help your soldier, not the Political alibis

AMERICA IS NOT ZIMBABWE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No selective prosecution of Americans
No selective Amnesty of Illegals
15 posted on 01/07/2004 2:34:29 PM PST by JudgemAll
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To: rintense
And look at all the knee jerk reactions. Call Bush even Clinton. I mean, give me a break... He has tried to do things that he talked about in his campaign, and guess what is going to happen now.. The media is going to play to how the repbs are dissatisfied, and we know repbs will either vote for Bush or sit out the election and takes away attention from the Democrats... Beautiful....
16 posted on 01/07/2004 2:35:37 PM PST by futureceo31
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To: stopem
The irony is just so... ironic! A Republican proposes it, the Dems love it, and the Republicans hate it. It will never make it out of the House. Of course, we can always count on our RINO friends in the Senate to vote with the Dems. Perhaps, just perhaps, GWB will use his veto power! Once can dream, huh?
17 posted on 01/07/2004 2:37:02 PM PST by rintense
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To: JudgemAll
Its not going to happen. Read his speech. "Congress" is going to write the legislation. Who writes legislation in Congress. The repbs and they are definelty against it and Bush is not going to strong arm them to do this...
18 posted on 01/07/2004 2:37:33 PM PST by futureceo31
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To: Pubbie
I sure hope the House deep sixes GW's proposal. I admire this President but this is just hard to comprehend.
19 posted on 01/07/2004 2:37:58 PM PST by PISANO (God Bless our Troops........They will not TIRE - They will not FALTER - They will not FAIL!!!!!)
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To: Pubbie
It's a non-starter because there isn't much IN there.
20 posted on 01/07/2004 2:41:00 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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