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Check Out Lou Dobbs on CNN Cable right now – really tearing into the Illegal Alien Amnesty of Bush!
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| 01/07/2003
| brianbaldwin
Posted on 01/07/2004 3:49:58 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Please don't call it the Bush Amnesty. It's not fair to do that. There's enough you can pick at without lying.
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posted on
01/07/2004 5:22:25 PM PST
by
Hildy
To: novacation
As you have admitted in the past, You do this just for "fun" and to "argue".
Grow up.
162
posted on
01/07/2004 5:22:41 PM PST
by
PRND21
To: Texas_Dawg
sweeping Marxism ?????I think the marxist are on your side.
Link to Stein Report
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STEIN REPORT XXXXX Tuesday, April 01 2003 10:20:30 ET XXXXX
PRO-IMMIGRATION PROF. WISHES FOR 'MILLION MOGADISHUS'
According to National Review Online, "Last Wednesday, Columbia University assistant professor Nicholas DeGenova told the audience at a faculty-led antiwar teach-in that he wished 'for a million Mogadishus' to visit U.S. soldiers fighting in Iraq." According to the Columbia University biography of DeGenova, his teaching focuses on "transnational urban conjunctural spaces that link the U.S. and Latin America as a standpoint of critique from which to interrogate U.S. nationalism, political economy, racialized citizenship, and immigration law." DeGenova has appeared at several open-borders conferences as a panelist and his writing has been highly critical of immigration enforcement. He is also scheduled to speak at a Brecht Forum event April 3. The discussion, titled "The New Internments" focuses on detention of illegal aliens under the NSEERS program. The Brecht Forum says, "In the hysteria that the Bush administration has continued to foment for over a year in its push for the continued militarization of the globe, a gutted constitution, and a ghoulish vision of endless war, immigrants in the U.S. have been disappeared and deported at alarming rates."
To: dc-zoo
True, but massively expanded "Health Care" (including that for illegals) and introduction/passing of Election "Reform" that TOOK AWAY our right to speak out on issues close to elections... We all thought that was "unlikely" as well :(
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posted on
01/07/2004 5:23:05 PM PST
by
Libertina
(If it moves, tax it. If it doesn't move it's a sitting duck - tax it TWICE!)
To: futureceo31
HA HA.... You are killin me... ROFL!!! with the frodo comment... Look at her tagline. Unbelievable. I think she was actually reading from her collector's edition of the LOTR script.
To: Missouri
Nice obscure, indirect, guilt-by-association, tie-in there. That has nothing to do with this issue. The Marxist AFL-CIO strongly supports you on this topic and is out today saying so.
To: madfly; HiJinx; janetgreen; FITZ; Tancredo Fan; gubamyster; SandRat; WRhine; joesnuffy; B4Ranch; ...
Ping.
To: Missouri
The guy is a whacko. The actual Marxists (whackos too, but of different flavors) have no idea what to do.
168
posted on
01/07/2004 5:25:37 PM PST
by
buwaya
To: Texas_Dawg
You got that right. I am white fair haired w/blue eyes and I more than likely have either a black or hispanic womans heart. SOME people on this site would have me give it back and die I guess. And some accuse me of not being able to spell, but who ever heard of a Cajun that could spell HA!
169
posted on
01/07/2004 5:26:09 PM PST
by
cksharks
(quote from)
To: dawn53
I think there should be recognition that there are jobs that Americans don't want...Ever notice who is building the houses we live in? Hispanics, almost exclusively.
Those are good paying jobs that Americans now out of work should be doing. But because the Illegals will do the work for a lot less, home builders have no reason to hire Americans.
What do YOU want: A house for $1,000 less or more empolyed Americans?
170
posted on
01/07/2004 5:27:42 PM PST
by
citizen
(Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
To: Brian_Baldwin
And I say, God bless President Bush for taking a reasonable, humane, and American spirited response to a problem that both parties have ignored for too long. There is no sustainable support in this country for rounding up and deporting all illegal immigrants, especially those from our own hemisphere. This is the first president since Ronald Reagan to seriously confront the great issues and the great threats that face this nation. I trust his judgment on this policy and stand behind him 100 percent.
171
posted on
01/07/2004 5:27:55 PM PST
by
zook
Lets face it . If you were Mexican , had a family , and no job , you would come here illegally to work , too , wouldn't you ?
To: zook
Amen to that... BIG BUMP!!!
To: KantianBurke
Well I just got back from being out and about doing errands and listening to the radio in the car.
Both Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt approve of President Bush's plan and correctly interpret its intention and implications.
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posted on
01/07/2004 5:30:16 PM PST
by
cyncooper
(Where'd my tagline go?)
To: Brian_Baldwin
Might as well put my $1 dollar's worth in on this.
Bush is dead wrong on this issue, just as Reagan was when he proposed and got the first amnesty bill passed. He later lived to regret it.
Let's start with the fundamental position that we are a nation of laws, not men. When we take something such as citizenship in America and give it away to people whose first act in coming to America was to display their contempt for our laws, what does that say about them AND about us as a nation? What should we expect in the future from people to whom we GIVE citizenship when their first act was to disregard our laws and system of justice? And, what does it say about our President and his advisors that they would make a proposition such as this?
Citizenship in America is something to be prized; not something to be given away in every 4th box of Cracker Jack. Illegal immigrants are not deserving of the honor of American citizenship and would only accept it because they can live and work without fear of being caught and deported. We have immigration laws for a reason; Bush and Co. should read them sometime.
Let me ask a rhetorical question: if ignoring/violating the law is beneficial for one segment of our country, how spectacular will it be if we ALL ignore/violate the law?
Secondly, the stereotype of several illegal Mexican peasants living in fear in the same house/apt. and working at crappy jobs to earn enough money to support their families in Mexico is outdated. Many of the illegals today live in upscale neighborhoods, have college degrees and work at white collar jobs and drive SUVs. Where, in that description, is a job that "Americans won't take"?
The fact is that the "immigration policy" that Bush proposed today is one that Vicente Fox has been pushing. IOW, Fox is deciding what America's immigration policy towards Mexicans should be. That doesn't make Bush sound like much of a leader.
And, for those of you holding your breath for the Congress to kill this bill, let me remind you that this is the same Congress that passed McCain-Feingold that erodes your 1st Amendment rights. This is the same Congress that KNEW McCain-Feingold contained unConstitutional provisions and passed it anyway; to a President who knew it contained unConstitutional provisions and initially said he would veto the bill, then signed it into law. These are the same people you are expecting to kill this new immigration policy!!??
Folks - take a cold shower, drink a large pot of coffee, do whatever it takes to WAKE UP!!! WE do not benefit from this new immigration reform policy if it passes. According to a recent article, in the 10 years since Reagan passed the first illegal alien amnesty for 3 million illegals, it has cost us $79 BILLION in social service and safety net program costs. Multiply that by 4 to get a baseline estimate of the cost for an additional 12 million illegals - people whom, if we believe the stereotype, will remain below the income tax threshhold and will not, as a result, pay ANY taxes to help pay for their drain on our social services and safety net programs. Doesn't sound like a win-win deal to me.
For those who think Bush has a great idea with his new immigration reform program, turn to your left and say "Hola!" to the new Mexican family you just adopted but can't deduct on your taxes.
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posted on
01/07/2004 5:30:30 PM PST
by
DustyMoment
(Repeal CFR NOW!!)
To: DustyMoment; sinkspur
For those who think Bush has a great idea with his new immigration reform program, turn to your left and say "Hola!" to the new Mexican family you just adopted but can't deduct on your taxes. So unbelievably stupid it hurts.
To: citizen
Ever notice who is building the houses we live in? Hispanics, almost exclusivelyDon't know where you live, but we just put a huge addition on our home.
Our concrete guys were black; the carpenters were white; the plasterers and drywall guys were white; the plumbers were white; the electricians were white; the roofers were the only hispanics in the bunch (and there's was definitely the most grueling job since they work on the roof in the Florida sun).
I'm sure demographics plays a part in this, but to say hispanics are the ones building all the houses, sorry, not in our neighborhood.
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posted on
01/07/2004 5:33:56 PM PST
by
dawn53
To: sweetliberty
May God have mercy upon us in spite of ourselvesYou don't want God to have mercy on us.
You want him to smite those of us who think Bush is doing the right thing and, for heaven's sake, clean those brownies out of our white land while He's beating on "them" who are keeping "you" down.
Call Jesse Jackson. He's a pro at representing victims.
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posted on
01/07/2004 5:34:02 PM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: cksharks
When was the last time you or your white or asian brothers picked lettece or tomatoes for a living. Your remarks are beyond stupid. I walked beans (pulling weeds from soy bean fields) in grade school & detasseled & hand pollinated corn in high school. I also mowed lawns after coming home from those jobs. Everybody did in our town.
To: citizen
The illegals are not exactly underpaid either. I've never heard of anyone paying less than minimum wage, and usually way more, for construction labor.
What they are is motivated.
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posted on
01/07/2004 5:35:00 PM PST
by
buwaya
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