Check Out Lou Dobbs on CNN Cable right now – really tearing into the Illegal Alien Amnesty of Bush!

CNN cable Lou Dobbs | 01/07/2003 | brianbaldwin

[Texas_Dawg]

Yes he is and he hates America and wishes to destoy it.

Haha. Yeah... I guess you're better than me since you only want to destroy the non-white part of it right?

[citizen]

. I've never heard of anyone paying less than minimum wage, and usually way more, for construction labor.

Thanks for helping my point! Of course construction wages are much above minimum wage, even for the Illegals. That's the point, they can make real good money while still undercutting the legal, regular workforce.

I read an article about a Southern Cal construction Illegal. He made money enough to live here, send a sizeable amount back to Mexico, take two months off to travel back to Mexico around Christmas, and pay $2,000 each way for a coyote to smuggle him across the border.

Picking fruit and mowing lawns? A few do that, sure, but many take good jobs from Americans.

[gubamyster]

Well if you follow the theads, I was responding to this:

To: Exodus22

When was the last time you or your white or asian brothers picked lettece or tomatoes for a living. Your remarks are beyond stupid.

76 posted on 01/07/2004 4:38:27 PM PST by cksharks (quote from)

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I live in CA realize there is a difference. Parents in IL make their kids mow the grass, parents in CA (except me) hire illegals to do it.

When was the last time you or your white or asian brothers picked lettece or tomatoes for a living. Your remarks are beyond stupid.

[Beck_isright]

"Unappeaseables are, well, always unhappy about somethin'."

Better to be an "Unappeasable" than an appeaser:



I suppose you prefer a more famous photo of your idol:

[Texas_Dawg]

That's the point, they can make real good money while still undercutting the legal, regular workforce.

OK. So let's just let them come legally and compete that way. Are you seriously saying that just by changing their label from "illegal" to "legal" that they won't still be able to do the job for cheaper than the average American?

[Texas_Dawg]

Yeah. Nice logic there, Cletus. Nazis and people wanting to build houses and mow golf courses. Pretty comparable. It's pretty obvious you are a HS-grad at best.

[sinkspur]

Who is that? Clark Gable's daddy?

BTW, did your nickname come from that goofball who burned himself up in a house out in California a couple of years ago?

[futureceo31]

This thread is just hilarious....Laughing my behind off!!!

[Beck_isright]

Don't you have some clerical work to finish? Or has your job been outsourced finally? Wall Street won't need you much longer...

[navyblue]

Can't. There's a white family there with a drop-dead-gorgeous blonde mom of two and a dorky husband. And, I can't do it to the folks on the right, since they're Filipino who work like dogs to put their kids through college. Their beagle barks all night, sometimes, though.

Keep the Beagle, send the blonde!

[buwaya]

Why shouldn't an American want to do what this guy is doing ?

Because they have better things to do. Because they prefer easier jobs, even if they pay less. Because the type of American willing to do the job is much less productive for the money.

[Texas_Dawg]

Don't you have some clerical work to finish? Or has your job been outsourced finally? Wall Street won't need you much longer...

Shouldn't you be working on getting your college degree? It might help your career... you know, make you happier so you won't be so scared of Mexicans and everyone being doomed.

[Beck_isright]

"Who is that? Clark Gable's daddy?"

Sink, I appreciate you re-affirming all of the NEA posts we've read on FR through the years.

"BTW, did your nickname come from that goofball who burned himself up in a house out in California a couple of years ago?"

Never heard of him. Glenn Beck.

[new cruelty]

Wow.... That was really - ... hey look, it's spidey!

[Beck_isright]

"Shouldn't you be working on getting your college degree? It might help your career... you know, make you happier so you won't be so scared of Mexicans and everyone being doomed."

Why would I need a degree when I'm retired? I guess your memory is as short as your talking points. Tell Rove to send you some new ones.

[sinkspur]

Sink, I appreciate you re-affirming all of the NEA posts we've read on FR through the years.

You read NEA posts? Why?

[Beck_isright]

"You read NEA posts? Why?"

Entertainment value only.

[DustyMoment]

The problem with your argument, not that it matters much to our politicians much, is that there are no provisions in the Constitution for "Guest Workers". The way Ridge explains it is that they will become a "second-class citizen". I guess it was put that way as a means to make it more palatable. Again, the Constitution has no provision for a "second-class citizen". It'll take the ACLU about 5 minutes in one courtroom to eat that standing alive and have the court confer full citizenship on the "guest worker/second-class citizen".

"Secondly, mass deportation is not going to be a solution for 10 million immigrants and to apply for citizenship. . . " Why isn't mass deportation a solution? Who says? Who says they should be allowed to apply for citizenship?

Let me phrase this a different way. Suppose we knew that there were 10 million rapists or 10 million pedophiles loose in our society? They've all been tried and convicted, but they escaped and are living among the rest of us. Along comes the President (any president, it doesn't have to be Bush) and he proposes giving these 10 million convicted criminals amnesty or pardons and just letting bygones be bygones. I mean, we can't arrest and jail 10 million convicted criminals because . . . well, we just can't.

Do you support this plan? Is it a good deal for America? Are we safer for having pardoned them? Or, have we just encouraged them to do it again because, well it gives the police something to do and helps justify their jobs?

If you support one plan, you have to support the other. If you oppose one plan, you have to oppose the other.

No one is saying that the illegals are necessarily bad people or deadbeats. Many of them are great folks and hard workers. But their presence here shows complete contempt for our system of laws and justice. It's like the guy who cuts in line to buy tickets to the movie. By the time you get to the ticket window, all the seats are sold out until the next show - tomorrow afternoon.

[citizen]

Thanks for the input.

You are right, of course, the areas without a heavy Illegal concentration would of course need to use the legal workforce.

But that's the point, many other places have jobs taken from needy people by businesses of all sorts using these cheaper workers.

Eventually this negatively impacts all of us. All those workers earning less money means less money available for them to spend on something your job may produce, then your labor is worth less to your employer so you earn less money.

[Trust but Verify]

He insulted EVERY working American with those words "they will take jobs Americans won't take."

BS. I'm a working American and I'm not insulted. Nor would I be willing or able to take some of the menial, back-breaking jobs filled by illegals. I also have teenagers who work but are very fussy about the type of work they are willing to do. We are spoiled, face it.