Crazy Horse beer case dismissed

Rapid City Journal ^ | January 8, 2004 | Dennis Gale, Associated Press Writer

[NYCVirago]

Is Neil Young going to get sued, too, for the name of his backup band?

[JohnGalt]

I was always partial to James Bowie, myself.

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[2banana]

U.S. District Judge Lawrence Piersol dismissed the lawsuit and gave both sides until Feb. 9 to reopen the case if settlement talks don't bear fruit.

I don't get it, Indians want to be sovereign nations when it comes to building tax free casinos and selling tax free cigarettes but then want to us the US courts when they feel it will benefit them...

[dead]

If your name consists of two common nouns, I really don't see how you can sue somebody for using it, especially after you've been dead for a hundred years.

[speedy]

I guess they won't be making Crazy Horse Malt Liquor the official drink of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation anytime soon. I think Tom Daschle would be deeply saddened by this whole turn of events.

[Ramius]

I like Sam Adams.

[tongue-tied]

Not to be confused with this: Good ol' San Miguel Red Horse...I never liked it but others swore by it.

[Protagoras]

I don't get it, Indians want to be sovereign nations when it comes to building tax free casinos and selling tax free cigarettes but then want to us the US courts when they feel it will benefit them...

The treaties were made freely by the US government. The Indians are citizens. The tort took place off reservation. You sue others in the proper venue. If you sue someone in China before your hometown magistrate, how will you get recompense?

That might help you get it.

[JohnGalt]

Sam don't come in 40 ozs.

[sirshackleton]

Great, now Sam Adam's relatives will all be coming out of the woodwork for their payday...

[bayourod]

It really was good beer.

[Ramius]

But it comes in kegs...

[JohnGalt]

Yes, it does.

I have a home draught system myself; have a 1/2 barrell of Wachusett IPA on tap; its probably been 7 years since I "enjoyed" a 40 O of malt liquor.

With all the great PNW ales, I am impressed to read you drink an East Coast product; you from back this way?

[2banana]

The treaties were made freely by the US government. The Indians are citizens. The tort took place off reservation. You sue others in the proper venue. If you sue someone in China before your hometown magistrate, how will you get recompense?

That might help you get it.

1. If the Indian nation and the US has a treaty covering "copyrights" and other intellectual property

It might be why they tried this case in an Indian court first:

A tribal judge threw the original case out of tribal court in 1994

But if you are going to have treaties that cover mundane things like intellectual property, you are probably going to have treaties that cover reciprocal taxation, fair cost of defense and such...

That might help you get it.

[Phantom Lord]

Crazy Horse Malt Liquor is without question the most powerful beer I have ever drank. That stuff would get you F'ed Up.

And friend of mine who happens to be an indian (Feather, not dot) thinks the suit is stupid and has a large collection of crazy horse bottles.

[fish hawk]

May I say, as an Indian, the US courts are the only courts we have. (except for tribal courts that only handle local petty cases on Tribal Land only) On top of that we have to get the U.S. governments permission to sue them if we have a cause to sue them. Once in the past my tribe had to sue the Government and it took almost 10 years to get on the court calendar, another 10 years to win the case. By the time we got the money most of the people that were sueing were dead. So, as far as I am concerned Go Casinos, make a billion, tax free too.

[Protagoras]

You are the one who said you didn't get it, not me.

The treaties I was refering to were the ones that you seem to deride that gave the Indians the right to do certain things in their own "nation" as you call it. It has nothing to do with copyrights.

I get it, you seem confused. I'm guessing you will never get it and I'm not interested in chasing my tail. Have fun.

[stands2reason]

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