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Home invasion victim charged with firearm violation -- Wilmette, IL
Chicago Tribune ^ | Lisa Black

Posted on 01/08/2004 1:32:24 PM PST by Jubal Harshaw

A Wilmette homeowner who shot and wounded an intruder was charged today with violating the north suburb's ordinance banning handgun ownership.

If convicted, Hale DeMar, 54, faces a fine of up to $750.

"It would be unfortunate and potentially tragic to conclude from this incident that Wilmette families would be safer if they keep a handgun in their homes," Wilmette Police Chief George Carpenter said in a written statement. "The oppose it is true. Wilmette families are in greater danger if they keep a handgun at home."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; freep; guns; homeinvasion; justice; rhodesia; wilmette
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
How can a law banning handgun ownership be constitutional? Where is the ACLU? Where is the outrage? It's a bloody shame!
101 posted on 01/08/2004 7:45:38 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Jubal Harshaw

This is da chief.

102 posted on 01/08/2004 7:52:13 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (No, I don't watch rasslin'?)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
opps........
103 posted on 01/08/2004 7:52:45 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (No, I don't watch rasslin'?)
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To: steplock
If My Uncle (Chief for 20+ years after working His way up from Patrol) were still alive I'm sure He would just loved to SLAP! this pig up side the head.

This guy is a waste of sperm & egg!
104 posted on 01/08/2004 7:53:35 PM PST by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
How can a law banning handgun ownership be constitutional?

I was thinking the same thing. Surely this could easily be defeated in court in light of federal law.

105 posted on 01/08/2004 7:58:39 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Found a hobo in my room...It's Princess Leia...the yodel of life!)
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To: Beelzebubba
Could you add me to the bang list, please?

Thanks!
106 posted on 01/08/2004 8:23:55 PM PST by kimmie7 (Chuck a chunk of change to FR today!)
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To: Jubal Harshaw; DMZFrank; CHICAGOFARMER; Ford Fairlane; TheRightGuy; Rollee; endthematrix; cfrels; ..
Please read this article and use the phone numbers and e-mail links provided.

Ask Chief George Carpenter what he would have done if his home was invaded. Wait for the Police?? NOT!!
He is a hypocrite. He would have shot the guy in self defense the same way this homeowner did.

Anyone interested in going to court when this guys court date comes up??

5600 Old Orchard Skokie!

Please at least FReep these folks by phone and e-mail!!
Thanks sistergoldenhair for the heads up!!
107 posted on 01/08/2004 8:34:54 PM PST by chicagolady (Jesus, Be my Magnificent Obsession)
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To: kimmie7; Beelzebubba
doh! Just read your reply to the other request. I bookmarked. Thanks!
108 posted on 01/08/2004 8:37:59 PM PST by kimmie7 (Chuck a chunk of change to FR today!)
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To: zarf
Go out of state and buy it.

Great move, then he'd be up on federal firearms charges. It's illegal for a resident of a state(non FFL) to purchase a handgun from a dealer or an individual in another state. A long gun he could buy in a state bordering on his own.

109 posted on 01/08/2004 8:45:27 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: TheBattman
I do have a question - if a person owns a handgun before any law/ordinance is passed that outlaws handgun ownership - how is that defenseable in a REAL court of law?

Depends on what you mean by a REAL court of law. The Supreme Court is silent on the issue (since 1937 anyway, and then they were ambiguos). The 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals says you don't have any right to keep that handgun, or any other gun. Confiscation of "contraband" doesn't fall under the 4th amendment either, at least in most cases. So you'd be screwed, blued and tattooed, if you lived in all but two or three of the US Appeals districts (the 5th, which ruled the 2nd amendment protects an indivdual right and I think one or two others that haven't ruled one way or the other, not sure about those.)

110 posted on 01/08/2004 8:53:05 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Squantos
Awwwwww Tommy where are ye when we need ya !

Whirling like hell in his grave, one would imagine. Wrap some wire around him (running parallel to his axis of rotation) and put him a strong magnetic field, and you could eliminate most every fossil fuel power plant in Virgina, DC and Maryland.

111 posted on 01/08/2004 8:57:08 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato
Agree.......sad to think it would be easier to get to the end and start over vs recover from the seditious damage done to this nations infastructure. How long can the law abidding remain so if such insanity is heaped upon them from so many directions 24/7............

This case clearly says your house ain't !

Stay Safe !

112 posted on 01/08/2004 9:10:33 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: Myrddin; El Gato
Agree..........every single socialist in this country that wants you disarmed has a firearm or an armed bodyguard, private or funded by taxpayers .......Doom on those that promote such to the citizens of this nation.

Stay Safe Ya'll !

113 posted on 01/08/2004 9:15:54 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: El Gato
He'll deal with that after he shoots the intruder threatening his life.

If never faces a life threatening situation, his gun will remain safely tucked away and no one will ever know.

114 posted on 01/08/2004 9:25:08 PM PST by zarf (..where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment?)
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To: zarf
Yup. Pay the money, be happy you're alive. Definitely a shot that was worth $750.
115 posted on 01/08/2004 9:26:26 PM PST by July 4th (George W. Bush, Avenger of the Bones)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Was the article to large to post in full?

I will try to make his court date to him my support and to show the court, police and city officials my disgust! Where are the TRT?

116 posted on 01/09/2004 12:05:34 AM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
We have an office in Wilmette, in the Bahai Temple area where this shooting occurred. The DeMar home is in a secluded, private area where the home invader (second time) might easily have slaughtered the entire DeMar family without their neighbors being any the wiser.

Like many so police chiefs, Wilmette Police Chief George Carpenter heels to the arrogantly liberal city council that holds his short leash. Rank-and-file police officers usually have quite a different take on matters like this.

There are no grounds for Carpenter's smug assertion that most Wilmetteans support his treatment of Mr. DeMar, whom we celebrate as the HERO he is. Let's hope O'Reilly and others spotlight this story of a brave citizen defending his family and homestead.
117 posted on 01/09/2004 7:04:34 AM PST by Hibernius Druid (Perseverantia Vincit!)
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To: El Gato
Depends on what you mean by a REAL court of law

That's what I was trying to emphasize. How could any court that reads the letter of the Constitution could allow such unconstitutional laws.

118 posted on 01/09/2004 10:17:34 AM PST by TheBattman (OK- Do it your way - just don't come crying to me when it doesn't work!)
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To: endthematrix
Here is link to an alternate site:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36542
119 posted on 01/09/2004 10:45:50 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter
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To: Jubal Harshaw
I'm glad we don't have such ridiculous laws here in Tennessee.

Here we have the right to defend our homes and the criminal is actually considered the offender.

Amazing concept, isn't it?
120 posted on 01/09/2004 10:52:46 PM PST by Fledermaus (We gave the Saudi terrorist VISAs, let's make them guest workers now also!)
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