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To: Theodore R.
I heard Rep. Tom Tancredo on Dobb's state that Bush's plan is dangerous and I am in agreement. IF by treason the author means that Bush has the betrayed the trust of American who he in fact leads.. then the shoe fits.
2 posted on
01/08/2004 4:31:14 PM PST by
Zipporah
(Write inTancredo in 2004)
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To: Theodore R.
the plan should be regarded as bordering treason! Treason??? Come on. I don't like this crazy plan either, but it does not border on treason. That's just plain nuts.
Bush to Americans: "Read my lips. No new illegals."
7 posted on
01/08/2004 4:40:02 PM PST by
Visalia
To: Theodore R.
It's articles such as these -- all hyperventillation and hysterics -- that make me increasingly certain that, in the name of ideological "constancy" and "purity," the extremist fringe of our own party would actually
prefer eight years of a Howard Dean presidency, over another four years of Bush. That way, they'd actually have something real to p!ss and moan about... which, in turn, would make them all the happier.
There was some goofy university-sponsored "study," a few months back, claiming that political conservatives were just naturally a little... slower than the rest of the population, overall.
Every time I see one of Chuck Baldwin's little heel-drumming tantrums posted on this site: I can't help but be reminded of that, for some reason.
12 posted on
01/08/2004 4:47:41 PM PST by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
To: Theodore R.
Why do you keep posting this Bald-twit crap?
13 posted on
01/08/2004 4:47:50 PM PST by
Asclepius
(karma vigilante)
To: Theodore R.
Already, more than ten percent of Mexico's population is living illegally in the United States.
Damn, is this true?
14 posted on
01/08/2004 4:49:22 PM PST by
breakem
To: Theodore R.; Zipporah; sheltonmac; jgrubbs
Bush's amnesty plan is also a serious slap in the face to those would-be immigrants who are trying to migrate to America legally. There are thousands of decent, hard working people from around the world who are seeking entrance into the United States. Some of these are seeking political asylum. Some are fleeing persecution. Whatever their reasons, they are following the rules and obeying the laws. Now, they must wait and watch as President Bush pushes criminals to the front of the line. Mr. Baldwin brings up another good point (of many). I didn't recall President Bush mentioning how this would affect others going through the process legally.
15 posted on
01/08/2004 4:49:26 PM PST by
The_Eaglet
(Peroutka for President)
To: Theodore R.
Therefore, it should be obvious to all Americans that this president is willing and eager to put America's future largely in the hands of foreign criminals. Keep your powder dry.
To: Theodore R.
The agenda of the phonycons is now very clear: They will fight an endless debt financed war abroad, and appease the invaders at home.
19 posted on
01/08/2004 4:54:38 PM PST by
JohnGalt
(Neocons: Appeasers to the illegal alien invaders)
To: Theodore R.
Chuck must be the "white sheep" of the Baldwin family:)
Ten percent of Mexico's population here, an least 3/4ths illegally. This is intolerable. We should at least get 10% of Pemex profits to defray their financial burden.
After thinking on this for several days I've decided to stand with those who will write in Tancredo. He really doesn't want the job, thus making him the best qualfied for it.
America is dying by increments with the One-World policies pushed since George the First. If our representatives would have represented us during those years we would all be enjoying a higher standard of living.
21 posted on
01/08/2004 5:02:37 PM PST by
NewRomeTacitus
(Has anyone gone out and come back as an alien yet? It's the new path to success.)
To: Theodore R.; Admin Moderator
Quoting from the article you posted: "Beyond that, the reason President Bush is attempting to legalize millions of illegal Mexicans seems nothing at all but an undisguised ploy to pick up votes for his reelection. Therefore, it should be obvious to all Americans that this president is willing and eager to put America's future largely in the hands of foreign criminals. Every American should give that thought serious deliberation!"
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How any responsible conservative could make such accusation is beyond me. Which leads me to conclude that this was NOT written by a responsible conservative, but someone who is a useful idiots for the Democrats, using the immigration issue to try to turn conservatives against Bush, so Dean or some other Democrat -- who are REAL traitors to the US can be elected.
Disagreeing with Bush's actions is one thing.
But ascribing ulterior motives to Bush and claiming that his actions are treasonous is beyond the pale.
Maybe moveon.org will be happy to post this article on their website.
To: Theodore R.; Admin Moderator
I went to the website of this Chuck Baldwin person, who wrote this article -- he is clearly a Bush hater, and has been all along. Check out his "Bush record", wehre he doesn't include a single positive thing Bush has done -- and even his worst enemies have to admit he has done great things from his accomplishments in the war on terror, to taxcuts and getting the economy going. This Chuck character is agitating conservatives against Bush and has been doing it all along.
Just so people know where he is coming from.
To: Theodore R.
Therefore, it should be obvious to all Americans that this president is willing and eager to put America's future largely in the hands of foreign criminals.
This kind of way over-the-top vitriol and mindless stupidity is no different that what moveon.org and the DU types say and do. I have never heard Chuck Baldwin's program since (as far as I know) it isn't on in the L.A. area. Now I will make a point of NEVER tuning it in even if the opportunity presents itself.
27 posted on
01/08/2004 5:15:11 PM PST by
Wolfstar
(George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
To: Theodore R.
TREASON!.....
Its worse than treason... anybody can get away with treason in the US these days... what it is ,,"IS".. a democrat voter registration campaign.. Bush is a very special republican to do that... a unite'er not a divider and a compassionate "conservative... -AND- the republican party may even survive it.. albeit not as it was before.. but don't quote me on that
32 posted on
01/08/2004 5:44:24 PM PST by
hosepipe
To: Theodore R.
Do guidelines allow one to say "Chuck U. Farley" in a post?
37 posted on
01/08/2004 6:34:27 PM PST by
zook
To: Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
If the only remaining difference between left and right is this nations defense then how will this bill help in the war on terror?
We currently only have ( apparently) 2000 Immigration guys that can check people out.
Now do you think its wise to now wise these limited resources to do checks on perhaps millions of immigrants from Mexico?
Or would it be better for this nations security to have them working on Arabs, Muslims?
Source:
The Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20040107-103029-5660r Border authorities fear influx from Bush plan
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published January 8, 2004
They said only 2,000 agents are available to review the millions of applicants that might be submitted.
"When U.S. immigration officials were tasked with the responsibility of checking immigrants coming into the United States from the Middle East after September 11, it tied up all of INS' resources and caused significant delays," Mr. Cutler said. "When this country had problems trying to properly identify a few thousand people, how is it going to do the same with a few million?"
43 posted on
01/08/2004 8:25:14 PM PST by
Kay Soze
(How will refocusing INS resources from the war on terror to millions of Mexicans make US safer?)
To: Theodore R.
How can you "border" on Treason? Either it is or it isn't. Baldwin has no guts.
To: Theodore R.
49 posted on
01/08/2004 9:36:22 PM PST by
The_Eaglet
(Peroutka for President)
To: Theodore R.
What's so treasonous about documenting the undocumented? I don't get that. At first I didn't like the plan at all, but every time I read what Bush had said about it, I warm up to it.
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