[drjulie]

"I hope they disbar the sucker!"

This is unbelievable! There are three groups/people to blame for this. First, the students - I admit that they were put in a bad situation but that does not excuse academic dishonesty (which is a major problem these days). Second, the professor. He is an idiot, IMO. Those students did not have the proper training, they were biased, and they were put in a situation that pressured them to cheat (I'm not excusing their behavior but the professor should have recognized how this situation may have led to inaccurate results). It also appears that he did not have mechanisms in place to monitor what was being done. Third is the legal team (Geragos). I would think that they would have either hired professionals or properly funded a well managed university effort. I've worked with attorneys who have gone through my work/recommendations with a fine tooth comb. And they weren't supposedly among the best in the country (like Geragos?)

[Chief Inspector]

I'm here! How do you guys find these Peterson forums? I search "Peterson" but theyre not all named that. I only found this one because I followed some poster from another forum that I knew posted about this, too. I have a lot of reading to do now.

[Canadian Outrage]

I agree Julie. In fact, when I heard the "results" of the Defense survey I was immediately suspicious. I'm surprised the Judge would give any credence to these things. The decisions should be made on the Jury interviews mostly. I cannot believe that he would put the State and the witnesses etc. to this heavy extra burden of expense. I'm a good case in point. The news is international. I think his biggest concern was avoiding any issue for appeal.

[Devil_Anse]

The cautious people don't get the publicity. In fact, some of them don't really want the publicity, even though it would mean more money.

You and I have gone through the higher education system. It pains me to say it, but the higher one goes, the more flagrant examples of cheating one sees. Some of these people are cut-throat, and will stop at nothing, even out-and-out fraud, to get the grades.

I made moderately good grades. I used to wish I had a T-shirt that said, "I don't cheat, and I have the grades to prove it." There were some big-time cheaters who made it to the very top levels of the class. There were also some big-time studiers who did that; their massive effort was cheapened by what the cheaters did.

My not cheating, either in school or in life in general, is not the result of my being some super-moral model person. I don't cheat b/c I would rather be able to sleep at night! I'm sure there are many better people who feel the same way.

[runningbear]

Agree with your post...