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The Myth of a Stolen Election
The Wall Street Journal Editorial Page ^ | REPOST - Tuesday, July 17, 2001 | Bob Zelnick

Posted on 01/09/2004 12:46:02 PM PST by yoe

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Readers of the New York Times were treated on Sunday to a massive report claiming that hundreds of overseas Florida ballots cast in violation of state law were nonetheless counted by election officials under pressure from representatives of George W. Bush. While even the Times stops short of claiming that inclusion of the "flawed" votes spelled the difference between victory and defeat for Mr. Bush, the report is clearly meant to provide ammunition for those who question the legitimacy of his victory and presidency.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2000; bobzelnick; corruption; democrats; florida; fraud; myth; votefraud
The mainstream press and media did much to cover up such stories at the time. This is a reminder of how corrupt the democratic machine can be and will be in 2004. Chicago set up some rules in time for the election so prisoners could vote! Some 15,000 did - but our Military absentee votes were denied. Democrats are ruthless and those corrupting the process have ruined their party.Do not forget!
1 posted on 01/09/2004 12:46:03 PM PST by yoe
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2 posted on 01/09/2004 12:47:40 PM PST by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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To: yoe
Geeeeezzzzz, not this chit again....
3 posted on 01/09/2004 12:48:41 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: yoe
I bet the Bush administration will be sure the military votes are counted this time.

Bump.

4 posted on 01/09/2004 12:51:09 PM PST by BlueAngel
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To: yoe
You can only get a dimpled or pregnant chad if you place more than one voting card in the voting machine.
5 posted on 01/09/2004 12:52:16 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Cyber Liberty
I tell you, I'm shocked this story would run, especially in an election year. Certainly no ulterior motive could be assigned to bringing up this issue again, in an election year.
6 posted on 01/09/2004 12:53:16 PM PST by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: yoe
bump
7 posted on 01/09/2004 12:56:30 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: stylin_geek
I am shocked as well. Shocked that there is gambling going on up there.
8 posted on 01/09/2004 12:57:07 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ( 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: yoe
The writers and editors at the Times obviously feel this story will be a good way to encourage people to vote Democratic. But I'm not so sure.

Outside of Manhattan (and a few other kook enclaves) the U. S. military is actually held in very high esteem. It's the biggest and best force for good in the whole world. The more voters get reminded that the Democrats are anti-military, the better for Republicans.
9 posted on 01/09/2004 1:10:28 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: yoe
"What the story fails to report"

So what's new .. it's called selective memory.

I do know that after a year had gone by, and the Miami Herald and a couple of other left-leaning papers pooled their money and did their own recount (Recount #7 I think) .. they STILL COULD NOT COME UP WITH A GORE WIN. However .. this story was either hidden in the back pages of most papers, or not reported at all.

This is nothing new. CBS was only too happy to say that Cheney's Halliburton had overcharged the govt .. but when Halliburton was cleared of the charge .. CBS has not even reported on the story. Again .. what they didn't report tells more about who they are than what they did report.

And .. as FOX has done for 2 days .. they have pointed out that many of the members of the media always say "Cheney's Halliburton" when it's something bad .. and just "Halliburton" when it's something good .. and in the case of CBS .. they don't even mention it at all.
10 posted on 01/09/2004 1:18:55 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
You can only get a dimpled or pregnant chad if you place more than one voting card in the voting machine

Wellllll, what could they do? Someone had to help all the deceased registered voters with their ballots!

11 posted on 01/09/2004 1:19:12 PM PST by fortunecookie
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To: 68skylark
The writers and editors at the Times obviously feel this story will be a good way to encourage people to vote Democratic. But I'm not so sure.

I agree with you. Geez, the last thing the Dems want revisited is how they treated the military in the 2000 election. But hey, I'll be glad to dredge it up.

12 posted on 01/09/2004 1:23:09 PM PST by TomB
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To: Cyber Liberty
Geeeeezzzzz, not this chit again....

You meant...Geeeeezzzzz, not this Clark again...didn't you?

That is the second repost from those dark days lest you or anyone else forget just how determined at all costs the Democrats were/are. If you haven’t, please read this......

(corruption in FL.)

13 posted on 01/09/2004 1:23:17 PM PST by yoe (Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest............the Clark mantra)
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To: CyberAnt
They also fail to ever report the fact that the networks all announcing that the Florida election was over one hour before the polls closed in the heavily Republican Florida panhandle easily cost Bush thousands of votes.
14 posted on 01/09/2004 1:28:28 PM PST by kennedy
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To: yoe
Zelnick was a reporter for one of the broadcast network's (NBC?) TV evening news programs for many years.
15 posted on 01/09/2004 1:29:29 PM PST by expatpat
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To: kennedy
Yeah .. I think only conservative groups have kept that information alive. I think they finally came up with a total of 10,000-15,000 votes were lost. The information came from votes counted in other elections.
16 posted on 01/09/2004 1:32:19 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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To: yoe
Does anyone havea final total on the election results? Including some of the settled lawsuites for voter fraud? I've already got the "official" numbers from the Sec. of State, but what about more current numbers? It seems not a week has gone by without some other legal case being decided in Bush's favor. Does he actually have the majority vote by now?

This would go a long way towards shutting up those detractors of the electoral college.

17 posted on 01/09/2004 1:41:19 PM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: yoe
What the Kerry is up with all this foul language?
18 posted on 01/09/2004 1:54:48 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: yoe
The NYT and the liberal establishment have clearly decided to try to take down Bush by harping on Florida and the myth of the stolen election. It's guaranteed to fail, because most normal people have long since "moved on".
19 posted on 01/09/2004 2:03:03 PM PST by jpl
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To: yoe
Excellent article by the WSJ. Surely their staff must hold the inept Gray Lady in humorous contempt.
20 posted on 01/09/2004 2:07:11 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: yoe
This is a total non-story. Even USA Today did an exhaustive study back in April of 2001 and concluded Bush won fair and square.

Plus the dagger went through the Rats' hearts when FL voters re-elected Jeb Bush. Anyone who still believes, despite overwhelming facts and evidence to the contrary, that Gore won the 2000 election is seriously smoking some lethal drugs.

21 posted on 01/09/2004 2:09:47 PM PST by Chris Tucker
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To: Chris Tucker
This is a total non-story

The controversy over the 2000 is a total non-story, not the article itself. That's what I meant.

22 posted on 01/09/2004 2:10:44 PM PST by Chris Tucker
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To: yoe
Readers of the New York Times were treated on Sunday to a massive report claiming that hundreds of overseas Florida ballots cast in violation of state law were nonetheless counted by election officials under pressure from representatives of George W. Bush.

What the story fails to report is that federal law required Florida to count these votes.

I'm convinced that these people want a civil war. They did everything they could to contravene the constitution in that election. Since then they've done their level best to convince everyone with a two digit IQ that George Bush and the Republicans 'stole' the election. On top of that they want to push the idea that we're supposed to be a pure democracy and the Electoral College is some Republican conspiracy to keep the po' folk down.

It's no big deal coming from the rags-and-snot street protesters but this keeps coming from major media outlets. These East Coast liberal elitists know it's BS. Don't they know that most Americans know it's BS?

23 posted on 01/09/2004 2:30:54 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: yoe
I didn’t know that the contested military ballots were not part of the final count. Thanks for the post!
24 posted on 01/09/2004 2:39:12 PM PST by elfman2
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To: yoe
Why let the facts get in the way of pushing an agenda, isn't that the motto of the NY Times?

This is a vivid retelling of just how sleazy and underhanded Gore and his operatives were in their quest for power. What disgraceful maneuvering - trying to disenfranchise military voters - for someone who wanted to be commander in chief.

25 posted on 01/09/2004 6:19:31 PM PST by tdadams
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To: yoe
In Bush counties, 29% of overseas ballots were disallowed, but the figure was 60% in Gore counties; in pliant Broward, the Gore kill rate was 77%.

This tells it all. To all of those who think LIEberman is such a wonderful guy, remember he went along with this, in fact endorsed it.

26 posted on 01/09/2004 8:39:14 PM PST by ladyinred (W/04)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Pandering to the mindless MTV set who think that sort of language is cool? Looks silly even if the FAA says it is alright - well not in my house.
27 posted on 01/11/2004 10:59:54 AM PST by yoe (Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest............the Clark mantra)
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To: TigersEye
I'm convinced that these people want a civil war. They did everything they could to contravene the constitution in that election.

Bring it on. I know which side has the firepower... (Just kidding!)
28 posted on 01/11/2004 11:06:51 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: kennedy
They also fail to ever report the fact that the networks all announcing that the Florida election was over one hour before the polls closed in the heavily Republican Florida panhandle easily cost Bush thousands of votes.

I was shocked when the networks declared Gore the winner with just 2% of the ballots in. On the other hand it would have been equally wrong had they declared George W. the winner with just 2% in

29 posted on 01/11/2004 11:18:32 AM PST by Kaslin ("The way to dishonor a fallen soldier is to quit too early." President George W. Bush)
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