Vile, Vile Pedophile Is child molesting a sickness or a crime?

slate ^ | 1-8-2004 | Dahlia Lithwick

[A.J.Armitage]

This is an example of the sort of stupidity that happens when people don't believe in Original Sin try to figure out moral responsibility.

"It's not his fault for raping children. After all, he really loves raping children, and there might be some small genetic component."

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[MeekOneGOP]

Amazing what Google Search can bring up ...

http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/022002/pedophile.html

[February 2002]

I've served my prison sentence and I'm in treatment, but the courts won't set me free. I cost taxpayers $110,000 a year, but I hope to be out soon. Can I move into your neighborhood?

by Pegi Taylor

On a warm morning in March 1989, 13-year-old Jack was riding his bicycle through the Maple Aire Trailer Court in Reedsburg, Wisconsin. He approached a stop sign at the same time as 19-year-old Randy Kellner. Cruising on his 10-speed, the 6-foot-2 Kellner often came to watch Jack and other boys from the area play baseball at the west end of the trailer park.

"Do you want to come over to my house to watch some TV?" Kellner asked.

"Sure," said Jack.

They pedaled back to the sky-blue-and-white trailer home where Kellner lived with his mom and stepfather. After watching TV for a few minutes, Kellner asked the boy if he wanted to listen to some country music, and Jack followed him into a bedroom just behind the combined kitchen and living room. They listened to a Kenny Rogers tape and then Kellner offered to show Jack some wrestling moves. When Jack nodded, Kellner warned, "Don't take this personal; these are classified wrestling moves."

Click here for the entire article

[MeekOneGOP]

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[MeekOneGOP]

Pretty ugly, folks ...

[Jim Noble]

But this raises the practical, financial component of imposing complete moral responsibility on pedophiles. Our jails are teeming with sex offenders; and knowing what we do about recidivism rates for pedophiles (recent studies show that they are lower than previously believed in the short-term, but still hovering at 50 percent over a 25-year "career") we must choose between lifetime involuntary confinement, or the cost of ongoing monitoring

She left out the most important, practical and fiscally responsible alternative.

[douglas1]

THERE was a time when this kind of an article would have been recieved by none in the medical community ,now they just discuss away, and yes in ten years it will be declared a lifestyle ,and anybody who objects will be shot down just imagine thirty years ago when being a gay was considered a perversion and it was, I dont know how gays can say it is a normal lifestyle when the act itself of anal sex is a very sickening.

[Prime Choice]

Actually castration may work almost as well as the Smith and Wesson... I'm fine with that, too ;-)

Kinda sad to say that neither castration nor emasculation does much to deter a pedophile. If you mean to deprive them of the "weapons of their evil ways," then you may as well include cutting off their fingers and cutting out their tongues.

Evil of that caliber is never limited to one attack style. That's just one of those cold realities.

I recommend the enriched lead treatment regimen. Best when delivered orally.

[Tamzee]

Ahhh, you misunderstood. I worked in the Criminal Justice field in an area relating to pedophiles and child predation.

The castration is not to remove "equipment", it is to remove fuel. They still have a sexual desire for children, but the urge to act on those desires gets stronger in relation to their level of testosterone. Castration lowers the level of testosterone and they are much less likely to touch or harm a child. Chemical castration works, also, but the pedophile needs to take female hormones to counteract the testosterone (monthly doses, I think). If they don't come in for their appointment, they go back to normal levels and their previously uncontrollable urge to commit a sexual act on a child.

My preference would be 15 years plus chemical or physical castration for first offense, life sentence for a later offense after being released. There is no CURE, just management.

[Sofa King]

How about trying to trying to normalize child molestation? Is that a sickness, or a crime?

[Palladin]

You're welcome.

We all have to do what we can to prevent this from becoming just another "lifestyle choice".

That article from SLATE shows that the NAMBLA propagandists are influencing some people.

Whenever and wherever we see this evil, we must speak up and act out against it.

[DoctorMichael]

....."Sickness or Crime?.....

Both.

Cut out the cancerous tissue from society's body and throw it in the trash.

[potlatch]

That's a new one!! I found a wig-wam, wanna shoot at it??

[Salamander]

First you'll have to convince individual families to break the "shameful secret" syndrome.
Kids have these evil things done to them and a LOT of times, the parents retreat into denial, or even worse, "blame" the child.
You cannot imagine to what lengths some parents will go to prevent a family "scene".
My own "weird uncle", to this day, is a much loved part of the family while I am the "blacksheep" because I refuse to attend family functions and act the part of hypocrite by smiling into his face.
They know what he is but "forget" it in order to keep the peace and spare my aunt any pain.
I am not his only victim.
At least one other cousin suffered his vile affections and I doubt either of us were his first or last since his "routine" was honed to an art.
God only knows how many other children/adult survivors are living this same silenced "family sacrificial lamb" existence, right now.
At a tragically early age, kids must be drilled to report *any* inappropriate physical contact to an adult and not necessarily a family member either, since "the family" "best interests" may conflict with the welfare of the child.
Though they may be too young to understand, they must be taught what the pedophile's "methods" are, including threats of harm to themselves, parents or pets, threats that the victim will be not believed/blamed/unloved if they tell.
Children must be trained to know the difference between "familial love" and a pedophile's lust.
Children naturally seek to please the adults in their lives and it's tragically too often to their own destruction.

It is truly a sin that any little kid's mind must be forced to grasp all that before it's too late, but it's become a cruel reality.

The other thing that must be done is impose the harshest penalties possible for offenders *without* all the usual "sick/disturbed/victimhood" legal psychobabble entering the mix.

They know -exactly- what they are doing and I am weary of hearing "oh, poor so-and-so was abused himself so he can't help it".

That is pure BS.
They "enjoy" it and they do not stop until they stop breathing.
Groups like "NAMBLA" thrive because some parents would rather clam up and keep the peace than speak out as they should and risk a family meltdown.


This is a terrible and depressing post, I know.
It was incredibly hard for me to write.
Only those who know whereof I speak can truly appreciate what it took to say this in "public".

Please forgive me for "bumming you out" but shedding light on the subject via firsthand account is more valuable as a catalyst for initiating change than all the "studies" ever done.

Think of it as a rebuttal to any freak who'd say that "children are not *really* harmed by sexual contact".

Oh, yes they are.
And it never, ever "heals".

[Palladin]

That was an excellent post. You gave much good advice to those who will read here.

I am so sorry that you were victimized by a vile pedophile, and a relative, no less!

Yes, these creatures have many manipulative ways of wheedling themselves into families and then taking advantage of the most vulnerable--the children.

This was the Modus Operandi of many a Catholic priest to "get in" with a family with his desired targets, boys or girls, and win the trust of the parents. I've read many of these stories on the SNAP website. If the children told on "Father", the parents would not believe them and tell them they were blaspheming.

Poor kids! I'm glad that at long last so many of these victims are being avenged, and getting large settlements from the Church.