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Bush Pulls Off Shrewd Stroke (Immigration strategery is a coup de main)
The United Press International ^ | January 8, 2004 | Martin Sieff

Posted on 01/09/2004 8:39:23 PM PST by quidnunc

President George W. Bush's proposed immigration reform plan may prove to be a masterstroke from a maestro political strategist playing at the top of his game. It may backfire on him, but it probably won't.

The reform plan has already provoked strong attacks from Democrats and Latino activists who say it does not go far enough and the critical voices have been particularly loud in crucial California. It will also increase strains the president's policies have already generated in the Rocky Mountain libertarian West, his archrival John McCain's stronghold in the 2000 Republican primary race.

But at the end of the day, unless the two huge decisive issues of the economy and national security turn catastrophically sour on the president, these critiques will probably bounce off him like any criticism off the Teflon back of Ronald Reagan.

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(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; immigrationreform; stoptheexcerpts
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To: dyno35
fact that there is no other option."

Actually there are other options out there, like these ideas:

http://www.house.gov/tancredo/Immigration/

what do you think?
121 posted on 01/09/2004 10:53:37 PM PST by WOSG (Freedom, Baby! Yeah!)
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To: WOSG
No, the 18% Conservatives not voting for Bush are the foolish ones who imagine that in a nation of 280 million they can wait for someone who agrees with them 100% and not support anyone else, and that will somehow help Conservative causes. NOT.

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So, what did the 82% get for their trouble? A combination of Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter without Monica Lewinsky?

122 posted on 01/09/2004 10:53:54 PM PST by RLK
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To: FITZ
They either leave or go back to hiding in the shadows, but if along with this bill comes serious penalties on employers who hire illegal aliens, like Perp Walks on FOX NEWS, They might reconsider violating our laws and either apply for an extension or leave and reenter at the first opportunity.

I believe in going after those who hire the illegals, Those employers are violating at least 8 to 12 laws on the books, everything from tax evasion, racketeering, fraud, countless labor laws, and conspiracy. If we start locking the employers up. That way, the penalty of violating the law will send a clear message that we are not putting up with this kind of nonsense any longer.I don't think GWB is playing politics with the issue itself, but I'm willing to bet he is with the timing

123 posted on 01/09/2004 10:55:26 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: Missouri
The speaker and guest of honor is Tom Tancredo.
Tell him for all of us that were behind him.

BTW. Glad your back.


You should look really hard at Tancredo`s proposals. They are not as good as you may think. I have been getting some advice on him from a good friend. And if what I am hearing is true, I am not on the Tancredo bandwagon. "Guest worker" programs are not the answer. The H1B visa program ( temp. worker program ) should be a big clue to that. If any plan comes out of Congress that has a "temporary worker" program attached, I am not for it !! Accept nothing less than what should be done. "The lesser of two evils , is still evil", Alan Keyes.
124 posted on 01/09/2004 10:55:55 PM PST by Peace will be here soon (Beware, there are some crazy people around here !!! And I could be one of them !!)
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To: WOSG
I'm enjoying your immigration ideas. Will you please run for president and please all 100% of all americans all the time?
125 posted on 01/09/2004 10:56:09 PM PST by Jodi (Real men prefer Bush!)
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To: longtermmemmory
The only way to make the Bush program work is to pair it with immigration law enforcement.

Otherwise the lawbreakers will continue to act brazenly and ignore the law.
126 posted on 01/09/2004 10:56:23 PM PST by WOSG (Freedom, Baby! Yeah!)
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To: RLK
"A combination of Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter without Monica Lewinsky?"

Er, That would be Gore .... If you cant tell the difference between Bush and Gore, Im sorry, but you are totally clueless IMHO.
127 posted on 01/09/2004 10:57:43 PM PST by WOSG (Freedom, Baby! Yeah!)
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To: WOSG
I think some of those fools actually would *like* Gore President so they have something they can *really* whine about.

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I have no reason to believe a Gore presidency would have been more destructive to the country than a Bush presidency. According to the election results, most of the people in the country didn't see any difference.

128 posted on 01/09/2004 10:58:14 PM PST by RLK
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To: MJY1288
>>but if along with this bill comes serious penalties on employers who hire illegal aliens, like Perp Walks on FOX NEWS, They might reconsider violating our laws and either apply for an extension or leave and reenter at the first opportunity.

I believe in going after those who hire the illegals...<<

Yep. The devil's in the details. I think we all want to know what kind of teeth this thing will have.
129 posted on 01/09/2004 10:58:32 PM PST by SerpentDove (The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.)
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To: WOSG
Since none of those issues are addressed in the proposal put forth by the White House, They will have to be during the debate that is certainly coming.

I don't want to sound like a smart ass, but it's our civic duty to voice our concerns to our elected officials, Free Republic is as good as any to organize a significant response

130 posted on 01/09/2004 10:59:26 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: Jodi
"I'm enjoying your immigration ideas. Will you please run for president and please all 100% of all americans all the time?"

May I take that as an endorsement for my current run for Precinct Chair? :-)

See my home page ...
131 posted on 01/09/2004 10:59:32 PM PST by WOSG (Freedom, Baby! Yeah!)
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To: RLK
I have no reason to believe a Gore presidency would have been more destructive to the country than a Bush presidency.

This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum.

132 posted on 01/09/2004 11:01:05 PM PST by Jodi (Real men prefer Bush!)
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To: RLK
I have no reason to believe a Gore presidency would have been more destructive to the country than a Bush presidency.

Well, I've heard that kind of talk from my Liberal Democrat freinds and family but I know in my bones it total and utter bunk. If you want to help the Socialists and Liberals gain power, it's your right, but dont call yourself 'conservative' your just embarrassing us.

133 posted on 01/09/2004 11:02:09 PM PST by WOSG (Freedom, Baby! Yeah!)
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To: SerpentDove
Those Perp Walks up on Wall Street had a significant effect on those corporate crooks, Hand cuffing the CEO of Del Monte Foods will have a serious impact as well.
134 posted on 01/09/2004 11:02:20 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: FITZ
Does Bush mean that in 3 years most of these currently here illegals will really be leaving this country?

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They will become part of a steadily increasing army sneaking more of their pals in. The process will be unstoppable.

135 posted on 01/09/2004 11:02:26 PM PST by RLK
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To: WOSG
He is good at that
136 posted on 01/09/2004 11:02:58 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: FITZ
Does Bush mean that in 3 years most of these currently here illegals will really be leaving this country?

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They will become part of a steadily increasing army sneaking more of their pals in. The process will be unstoppable. And both Bush and Presidente Fox know it.

137 posted on 01/09/2004 11:03:43 PM PST by RLK
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To: MJY1288
Free Republic is as good as any to organize a significant response"

That's exactly why I asked your opinion.
This is a response I am formulating and will give to Senator Cornyn in due course - perhaps as early as next week.
138 posted on 01/09/2004 11:05:04 PM PST by WOSG (Freedom, Baby! Yeah!)
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To: MJY1288
That's what needs to happen.

But I fear that Bush's motives are geared more toward pleasing Vicente Fox, who does not recognize our borders, than in tightening our border security.
139 posted on 01/09/2004 11:06:19 PM PST by SerpentDove (The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.)
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