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THE CODE FOR HUMAN LIFE
E-Forensic Medicine ^ | Frederick T. Zugibe, M.S., M.D., Ph.D., FCAP, FACC, FAAFS

Posted on 01/17/2004 11:49:25 AM PST by cpforlife.org

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To: Voice in your head
M.S. Master of Science

M.D. Doctor of Medicine

Ph.D. Doctor of Philosophy

FCAP Fellow of the College of American Pathologists

FACC Fellow of the American College of Cardiology

FAAFS Fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences

23 posted on 01/28/2006 2:26:36 PM PST by ExGeeEye (What a long, strange trip it's going to be...)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; wagglebee

Great!! I've this thread bookmarked!!


24 posted on 01/28/2006 5:43:00 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: ValerieUSA
Ping!

25 posted on 01/28/2006 8:13:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: cpforlife.org
Very good basic lesson, from science and sound reason, of the fact that a zygote is undeniably human life.
26 posted on 02/06/2006 6:48:43 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus

Special thanks, K. It is my desire to interject into every ESCR, cloning, or abortion thread the TRUTH that the newly alive human being does all the building and differentiates ITS cells even as early as the morulla stage, since some cells will be tasking to build the placental encapsulation (first organ for survival) and umbilicus while others will build the body of other organs for survival in the air world. The good doctor of the article has already done this so I'll step aside without further comment. (PS- thanks for the note and link, Coleus.)


27 posted on 02/07/2006 10:17:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: cpforlife.org

bump for later


28 posted on 02/07/2006 10:19:03 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: cpforlife.org

**A fertilized human egg at the moment of Conception, is the opinion of the creator that a human life at that instant, must begin.... F. Zugibe**

BTTT!


29 posted on 02/07/2006 10:44:46 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; NYer; american colleen; Pyro7480; livius; ..
Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

30 posted on 02/07/2006 10:47:55 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: cpforlife.org

Thanks for the article.

Interesting character, Francis Crick, who unraveled so much about DNA. He was an atheist, spent his entire science career, even switched disciplines, searching to prove scientifically that DNA design and evolution did not need or infer a Creator. The more he discovered about DNA, the less plausible his position became.

Eventually he devolved into a theorist and came up with "panspermia" to try and explain the mysterious coded "seed" that starts the process of life.


31 posted on 02/08/2006 5:51:32 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf
Just finished an excellent book on the topic of 'the case for a Creator'. You would enjoy it, I'm certain: Lee Strobel, The Case For A Creator, from Zondervan. Crick was so devoted to deny God that he choked on all the evidence for design in the creation.
32 posted on 02/08/2006 6:37:02 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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A Catholic

Respect Life Curriculum

For
High School
College
and adult study

Spring 2006

CpForLife.org


33 posted on 02/08/2006 6:54:49 AM PST by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: MHGinTN

About Crick and his work:

http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/SC/Views/Exhibit/narrative/defining.html


34 posted on 02/08/2006 7:05:06 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Da Mav
You wrote: "The idea that a new organism with a unique genome is formed at conception has never been debated. Whether that organism merits protection by the state is a political and religious question and not a matter for science."

It is true that biological investigation can only tell you who is a member of the human species, meaning humans of all ages and stages of development, both sexes, and all sizes, colors, and races. Biological investigation cannot tell you why it matters.

Gone are the days when great theorists of government like Thomas Jefferson could say that it is "self-evident" that "all men are created equal" and that they are "endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights" --- although this is, and ought to be, the foundation of American political philosophy.

Unfortunately, modern philosophy has degerated to the point where, to many people, it just means "personal opinions dressed up in verbal pomposity."

A philosophy worthy of the name will be free of internal contradictions, coherent, reasonable, and based upon observable truths, including social, historical, sociological and psychological. When it is rooted in identifying what causes human nature to flourish and be perfected, this tradition is called "Natural Law."

Religious thinkers would say that. since human beings were created in the image and likeness of God, we can only discern what would constitute "the perfection of the human nature" by looking to God in Christ.

However, for those who don't believe in God, there is still a Natural Law based on what "most people" are convinced constitutes individual human virtue and excellence, and the collective flourishing of human communities over time.

OK. The bottom line, according to the foundations of American political philosophy, is this: to prove that an entity is a human being, suffices to prove that this entity is endowed with rights, the protection of which is the basic function of government.

35 posted on 02/08/2006 7:14:03 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Choice cannot be the paramount value in any course of action which has a victim.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Bookmarking this one for sure.


36 posted on 02/08/2006 7:18:15 AM PST by goodform
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To: MHGinTN
Some interesting comments by James D. Watson:

http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/wat0int-8

" One should see life as consisting of a script, which is DNA, and the actors, which are largely proteins, which are described in the text to great detail. And so you've got a system of a play where you've got a script and you've got the actors, and you could say, "Well, who is more important? Shakespeare or Gielgud? Whose playing now?" And everyone'll go back and say, "The actors are very important but scripts are more important." So we're getting the script for life and, you know, every species has its own script.."

"Evolution only occurs by creating variants, and a lot of variation is harmful to the individual who carries it. So evolution is not a kind thing, and we're all products of evolution. Well society, you know, says we're products of God. We're products of evolution and it's very different. You know, a just God wouldn't have done anything which didn't have a purpose. But I think like most biologists, we don't think there's anyone to answer our prayers and change the course of destiny. So, I mean, scientists and doctors, you know, have this right of change -- have this ability to change the future. In that sense we are the gods, and people are, of course, afraid of evil gods, and then for some people, you know, my way of speaking right now is just totally inappropriate and sacrilegious, and you know, in some countries they'd shoot me, or just --You know, saying there's no one up there in the heaven telling us what to do, but I don't think there is. "
37 posted on 02/08/2006 7:20:11 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ExGeeEye

He's also the former Medical Examiner for Rockland County, New York and an expert on crucifixion and the Shroud of Turin.


38 posted on 02/08/2006 7:23:46 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Salvation

Good stuff and well-written for the layman's understanding.


39 posted on 02/08/2006 8:02:36 AM PST by Bigg Red
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To: Bigg Red

Wow, I'm going to show this to my Anatomy and Phys teacher. We are studying DNA replication for the next 2 weeks.


40 posted on 02/08/2006 8:07:49 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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