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"New Space Exploration Vision" Distributed to NASA Employees 16 Jan 2004
Mars Today ^ | January 22, 2004

Posted on 01/22/2004 1:23:35 PM PST by demlosers

STATUS REPORT
Date Released: Thursday, January 22, 2004
Source: NASA HQ

Guiding Principles for Exploration



TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lunar; missionstatement; moon; nasa; space; vision
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1 posted on 01/22/2004 1:23:35 PM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers
I posted this earlier, but yours is better than mine. Perhaps others will now join in.

I think the graphic at the front of the presentation is very good, and says a lot.
2 posted on 01/22/2004 1:32:29 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Sorry I missed the other post.

This is interesting info for spacebugs like myself.
3 posted on 01/22/2004 1:35:35 PM PST by American_Centurion
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To: Frank_Discussion
If we wouldn't have lost our momentum after Apollo, that image would have been reality 15 years ago.......
4 posted on 01/22/2004 1:39:16 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Viking2002
Aye.
5 posted on 01/22/2004 1:41:37 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
I wonder how much that graphic cost, and how many meetings were held to approve it.
6 posted on 01/22/2004 1:43:58 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62
Got an idea: YOU go find out and get back to us, okee-dokee?
7 posted on 01/22/2004 1:46:02 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
I wonder if I can get a government grant for doing that.
8 posted on 01/22/2004 1:47:44 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62
Maybe if you applied under a NEA fellowship or something...
9 posted on 01/22/2004 1:51:16 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: demlosers
Now where does that singing black monolith figure in all of this? I hope we stay away from it...it's freaky-deaky.
10 posted on 01/22/2004 1:53:30 PM PST by macamadamia
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To: demlosers
but when do we get the new space exploration vision goggles?
11 posted on 01/22/2004 1:54:26 PM PST by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: demlosers
Hoagland is all over this. Im sure hell want everything placed in a 19.9degree orbit. The shadow government turned spirit off !
12 posted on 01/22/2004 1:58:01 PM PST by claptrap
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To: demlosers
I know that's pure "artist's conception", but it sure looks to me like someone is considering buying Soyuz components. If we're gonna get the rocket engines from Russia, I guess it makes sense to buy in bulk.
13 posted on 01/22/2004 1:58:54 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: claptrap
Just what I was thinking. Guess Spirit "saw" too much. :-P
14 posted on 01/22/2004 2:14:14 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (Kerry. When you need to katchup...)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Do you think that the craft in the upper right is a Lunar Lagrange station?
15 posted on 01/22/2004 3:17:54 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: B-Chan
First unofficial concept from NASA.
16 posted on 01/22/2004 3:35:21 PM PST by Brett66
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To: CasearianDaoist
That seems like a reasonable guess, I wonder what that white capsule to the left is?
17 posted on 01/22/2004 3:37:18 PM PST by Brett66
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To: claptrap
Great, just what Hoagland needs, another conspiracy event.
18 posted on 01/22/2004 3:39:56 PM PST by Brett66
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To: demlosers
Here's what my plan would look like:

First and foremost, a super-heavy lift vehicle, along the lines of the Saturn V, only bigger. Call it the Saturn VI.

Second, build a new, low-tech space station along the lines of Skylab, only bigger with much better solar power. Make it so that additional, identical units could be snapped onto it (by remote control, no EVAs). Build it on Earth. Send it up to L1 (the gravitational balance point between Earth and the moon) in a single Saturn VI launch. Call it Skylab II.

Third (intermediate term), build two types of lunar lander: a low-tech crew lander similar to the Apollo LEM (except reusable), and the other a big, unmanned, single-landing cargo lander. Send three or four crew landers to Skylab II, unmanned, with one Saturn VI launch. Astronauts will go to Skylab II via Soyuz and make excursions to the moon via crew landers. Lander fuel will be resupplied by shipment from Earth. When large-scale lunar activities begin, the cargo landers will be launched from Earth by Saturn VI.

Fourth (longer term), a larger and improved Skylab unit will be launched into a Hohmann transfer orbit between the Earth and Mars. This is called the "Mars Cycler". Loaded cargo landers will be sent to rendezvous with it, along with two crew landers and lots of supplies. A section of the station will rotate to provide "gravity" for long-term crew health and comfort. Crew will be transferred to the cycler from Earth via Soyuz. Once the cycler arrives at Mars, the landers depart, and the cycler departs for an Earth flyby. On the next pass of the cycler to Mars, the crew departs via crew lander, and rides the cycler back to Earth, which swings back towards Mars (perhaps with another Mars crew).

No Space Shuttle, no useless ISS, no complicated space construction, no complicated, high-tech CEV. This should have been the manned space program in the 1980's.

19 posted on 01/22/2004 5:03:45 PM PST by Physicist (Sophie Rhiannon Sterner, born 1/19/2004: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1061267/posts)
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To: Physicist
and rides the cycler back to Earth, which swings back towards Mars

Woah, nice dangling modifier. I mean that the cycler--and not the Earth--then swings back towards Mars. Upon arrival at Earth, the crew would leave the cycler via the Soyuz that took them there in the first place.

20 posted on 01/22/2004 6:12:44 PM PST by Physicist (Sophie Rhiannon Sterner, born 1/19/2004: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1061267/posts)
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