Would this be a record that an unusual event may have occured?
Posted on 01/23/2004 3:00:06 PM PST by mhking
This may be true for the Soviets, but what about Roswell?
Of course, the accuracy has remained the same, but Pravda today can't even pretend to be taken seriously.
Sorry, I'm not cleared to speak on that event ...
The initial Roswell story was based on the crash of a balloon used to study radioactivity in the atmosphere. At the time (in 1947) it was a classified program called Project Mogul. The debris which was found was positively identified as balloon remains, along with some radar reflectors.The incident was blown out of proportion at the time because it happened to coincide with the first "flying saucer" sighting to get big media coverage. Subsequently, the whole thing was forgotten for 30 years, not even making it onto the "Top 100 UFO sightings" list put out in the 70s.
Then, in 1978, the National Inquirer published a story on Roswell. Witnesses suddenly started popping out of the woodwork with stories of alien bodies and military conspiracies, which brings us to where we are today.
The Pentagon thoroughly investigated Roswell and published two reports, the most recent called Roswell: Case Closed in 1997.
Of course, the UFO nutters claim that the Pentagon is just part of the conspiracy, so there's no hope of convincing them merely by presenting a detailed report with all the evidence, is there?
Well, comrade, I would like to see photo that ball allowed them to make.
1,000 meters wide . . hmmmm....
I wasn't aware mass drunkeness was permitted in the old Soviet miltary. Especially during broad daylight. Had we only known then . .
REPORT OF AIR FORCE RESEARCH REGARDING THE
"ROSWELL INCIDENT"
July 1994
From: www.af.mil/lib/roswell.html
The following from the EXECUTIVE SUMMARY is excerpted from the report for convenience of readers and lurkers on FR. Consult the link above for the full report.
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
The "Roswell Incident" refers to an event that supposedly happened in July, 1947, wherein the Army Air Forces (AAF) allegedly recovered remains of a crashed "flying disc" near Roswell, New Mexico.In February, 1994, the General Accounting Office (GAO), acting on the request of a New Mexico Congressman, initiated an audit to attempt to locate records of such an incident and to determine if records regarding it were properly handled.
Although the GAO effort was to look at a number of government agencies, the apparent focus was on the Air Force. SAF/AAZ , as the Central Point of Contact for the GAO in this matter, initiated a systematic search of current Air Force offices as well as numerous archives and records centers that might help explain this matter. Research revealed that the "Roswell Incident" was not even considered a UFO event until the 1978-1980 time frame. Prior to that, the incident was dismissed because the AAF originally identified the debris recovered as being that of a weather balloon.
Subsequently, various authors wrote a number of books claiming that, not only was debris from an alien spacecraft recovered, but also the bodies of the craft's alien occupants. These claims continue to evolve today and the Air Force is now routinely accused of engaging in a "cover-up" of this supposed event.
Consequently, efforts were intensified by Air Force researchers at numerous locations where records for the period in question were stored.
The records reviewed did not reveal any increase in operations, security, or any other activity in July, 1947, that indicated any such unusual event may have occurred.
Records were located and thoroughly explored concerning a then-TOP SECRET balloon project, designed to attempt to monitor Soviet nuclear tests, known as Project Mogul.
Additionally, several surviving project personnel were located and interviewed, as was the only surviving person who recovered debris from the original Roswell site in 1947, and the former officer who initially identified the wreckage as a balloon. Comparison of all information developed or obtained indicated that the material recovered near Roswell was consistent with a balloon device and most likely from one of the Mogul balloons that had not been previously recovered. Air Force research efforts did not disclose any records of the recovery of any "alien" bodies or extraterrestrial materials.
Yet another pitiful attempt at disinformation.
Would this be a record that an unusual event may have occured?
We shall see.LOL!Supposedly there are 3-5 DIFFERENT environmentally clean, virtually free sources of energy that we've kept under wraps for decades.
We shall see.
The *true* believers will never be dissuaded by actual 'science', so, why even try.
To date there is not even the slightest inkling coming out of the laboratory that hints at 'free energy' being a possibility OTHERWISE the biggies would SURELY be interested!
The CLOSEST we get is splitting ('fission' or 'joining' as in 'fusion') the atom and reaping a HUGE amount of energy - with the attendant side effects that result.
To date, it's been the hucksters who have reaped 'free energy' from nonscientific investors who can be easily 'horn swaggled' JUST as alchemists did when convincing 'investors' they could turn lead into GOLD!
"I'll bet you a case of beer there is no working overunity device that is testable by others or for sale as an operating unit, a kit, or working plans to build it yourself," said Jerry W. Decker, operator of KeelyNet, a site devoted to developments in free energy -- a field Decker has been tracking for 30 years.From: www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,11898,00.html
DID you believe 'the press' when they lauded Howie Dean for a week or two before the Iowa caucuses?
OF COURSE you went to the website I listed AND READ accounts by persons that were around at that time - right?
The July 9 edition of the paper noted that Brigadier General Roger Ramey, Commander of the Eighth Air Force at Forth Worth, Texas, stated that upon examination the debris recovered by Marcel was determined to be a weather balloon. The wreckage was described as a "..bundle of tinfoil, broken wood beams, and rubber remnants of a balloon...... The additional story of the "harassed rancher" identified him as W.W. Brazel of Lincoln County, New Mexico. He claimed that he and his son, Vemon, found the material on June 14, 1947, <>when they "came upon a large area of bright wreckage made up of rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper, and sticks.""UFOs" made of "tinfoil, paper, tape, and sticks".He picked up some of the debris on July 4 and ."..the next day he first heard about the flying discs and wondered if what he had found might have been the remnants of one of these." Brazel subsequently went to Roswell on July 7 and contacted the Sheriff, who apparently notified Major Marcel. Major Marcel and "a man in plain clothes" then accompanied Brazel home to pick up the rest of the pieces. The article further related that Brazel thought that the material:
"..might have been as large as a table top. The balloon which held it up, if that is how it worked, must have been about 12 feet long, he felt, measuring the distance by the size of the room in which he sat. The rubber was smoky gray in color and scattered over an area about 200 yards in diameter. When the debris was gathered up the tinfoil, paper, tape, and sticks made a bundle about three feet long and 7 or 8 inches thick, while the rubber made a bundle about 18 or 20 inches long and about 8 inches thick. In all, he estimated, the entire lot would have weighed maybe five pounds. There was no sign of any metal in the area which night have been used for an engine and no sign of any propellers of any kind. Although at least one paper fin had been glued onto some of the tinfoil. There were no words to be found anywhere on the instrument although there were letters on some of the parts. Considerable scotch tape and some tape with flowers printed upon it had been used in the construction. No string or wire were to be found but there were some eyelets in the paper to indicate that some sort of attachment may have been used. Brazel said that he had previously found two weather balloons on the ranch, but that what he found this time did not in any way resemble either of these."
I'm *sure* they were capable of a) interstellar travel at light speed and b) supersonic flight within the atmosphere!
LOL!
"Stories" of incursions -- we've got to get Tancredo working on this.
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